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    Looks like Spurs will pick up Forbes.

    Watch the highlight videos, zero mention of either Garino, Lapro or Arci. The top brass has decided that they want to keep any mention of those 3 so that they can stash them in Austin. Besides, Mills contract is up and Spurs may need a replacement.

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    I definitely think he can do more than shoot. He had a few games in the summer league where he rebounded and stole well. He had a similar game against Phoenix last week. Definitely needs to become consistent at something else to get into the rotation, but being an elite shooter should be enough to make a team.
    We'll have to see if the team agrees that the roster spots are more valuable than the dead weight that's taking them up. We spend a lot of time talking about the 13-15 spot, but I think it's because this is a year that the team needs a surprise or two in order to have a chance.

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    We'll have to see if the team agrees that the roster spots are more valuable than the dead weight that's taking them up. We spend a lot of time talking about the 13-15 spot, but I think it's because this is a year that the team needs a surprise or two in order to have a chance.
    They need a surprised from their 8-12, though. But this is why I am so adamant about Pop doing everything he can to get Anderson to be assertive. He's the only one who can surprise besides maybe Bertans as the 10th man. People who keep laughing at Kyle's failures miss the point of him being so talked about in the first place.

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    What about Dedmon? He's 27, no more upside?

    I'm just telling you that I've read a number of interviews and articles about how teams are less inclined to consider even four-year college guys because of the belief that they don't have much upside. No rule is absolute, but there's probably something to it. Personally, I think C's are probably the biggest exception.

    That's not even the point, though. What I'm wondering is if there is really enough difference between Simmons and Murray at this point to justify having both of them on the roster. If Murray can do what Simmons is doing, and has potential to become a legit backup PG with better than average height. If Murray could double for Simmons, then it would leave an extra roster spot and maybe they could keep both Lap and Forbes.

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    Thanks. Lapro is a really savvy player. Too bad it's a choice between him and Forbes.

    Who else can the Spurs waive in the event they get both players? I don't see anyone else getting waived based on the contracts. Both Murray and LJC who are both heading to the D-league have long term contracts. I would not want to see Bertans go.

    I guess people are thinking its Simmons. I don't think so though, since the Spurs need someone the slash into the paint.

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    I am not expecting any of the preseason pick ups to make a difference in the playoffs personally... They are for surviving the long season and injuries. Although a shooter like Forbes could conceivably come in with a limited purpose, thus why I like him.

    As for Anderson, so long as he doesn't pass up shots he should be takinv, I think he'll be fine and bounce back in %. Far as I can tell he is playing a team game that looks to get teammates involved. It's got to be by design. He doesn't force things unless a play is called up for him and when he does get a play it's usually a post up baseline so again, I think that is another Pop thing.

    Now, I wish there was something else Pop called up for him bc he is better shooting from other areas than posting up baseline and he has struggled, but he has also competed against starting level talent. These are not opportunistic mismatches. This is him posting up baseline Aaron Gordon Tobias Harris or Morris. It's going to be rough. There's definitely no advantage to him. So I have to look at Pop and consider it a player development thing.

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    Thanks. Lapro is a really savvy player. Too bad it's a choice between him and Forbes.

    Who else can the Spurs waive in the event they get both players? I don't see anyone else getting waived based on the contracts. Both Murray and LJC who are both heading to the D-league have long term contracts. I would not want to see Bertans go.

    I guess people are thinking its Simmons. I don't think so though, since the Spurs need someone the slash into the paint.
    If I had to waive somebody it would be him but he's not getting waived. POP still hopes for his development, and he's done just enough to justify his spot.

    Though not a favorite if mine so long as he's in the team I hope for his development too. I just really dislike how mistake prone and unreliable he is.

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    They need a surprised from their 8-12, though. But this is why I am so adamant about Pop doing everything he can to get Anderson to be assertive. He's the only one who can surprise besides maybe Bertans as the 10th man. People who keep laughing at Kyle's failures miss the point of him being so talked about in the first place.
    They think the team will survive the entire season and playoffs on Ginobili's back.... which by the way I don't troll like that but J.Simms for all my criticism had a better game than Ginobili here. Ppl really do miss the point.

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    If I had to waive somebody it would be him but he's not getting waived. POP still hopes for his development, and he's done just enough to justify his spot.

    Though not a favorite if mine so long as he's in the team I hope for his development too. I just really dislike how mistake prone and unreliable he is.
    Ultimately, the question will boil down to who can help in a series against GSW.

    Spurs are destined to be 2nd place in the WC.

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    They think the team will survive the entire season and playoffs on Ginobili's back.... which by the way I don't troll like that but J.Simms for all my criticism had a better game than Ginobili here. Ppl really do miss the point.
    No one said that, you made it up when you got upset after people said Anderson wasn't good enough.

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    No one said that, you made it up when you got upset after people said Anderson wasn't good enough.
    She got pissed when I said Kyle Anderson is a Role Player and should no way be compared to how Pop treated Kawhi development. For some reason, she wants the bench to be built around Anderson..

    Ignoring that kawhi excelled as an offball player so Pop had the luxury to throw him minutes..Anderson..not so much.

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    No one said that, you made it up when you got upset after people said Anderson wasn't good enough.
    I have seen it by several ppl here.. I don't care to cite anyone ... but I am not making that up...

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    Slowing down time would be his superpower, like if some teammate needs to tie his shoes or check his FB-page or something.
    He is his own Snapchat filter.

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    I have seen it by several ppl here.. I don't care to cite anyone ... but I am not making that up...
    Your buddy would call that " made".

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    Your buddy would call that " made".
    Oh... ouch. Wow, I elicited an evil chuckle at that. I remember that.

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    Your buddy would call that " made".
    Whatever TD this sort of thing ain't my thing again... It's out there, so whatever. Waste of time to dig up... but that you jumped at my post means I hit a soft spot. Again, whatever you calling yourself out it looks like to me. Lol

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    Whatever TD this sort of thing ain't my thing again... It's out there, so whatever. Waste of time to dig up... but that jumped at my post means I hit a soft spot.
    You dismissing citation is no better than dabom's emoticons. I dislike laziness on something so simple as the internet. No trolling. Just truth.

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    You dismissing citation is no better than dabom's emoticons. I dislike laziness on something so simple as the internet. No trolling. Just truth.
    I dislike these vendettas... ain't my to be calling out ppl and digging up. Just not my thing. I don't care about that like others. Now if the boot fits then it hit a sensitive ppl as far as I am concerned... It's out there somewhere. Only he has called himself out. No one else,has cared lol.

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    I dislike these vendettas... ain't my to be calling out ppl and digging up. Just not my thing. I don't care about that like others. Now if the boot fits then it hit a sensitive ppl as far as I am concerned... It's out there somewhere. Only he has called himself out. No one else,has cared lol.
    Look, you put yourself out there, you have to expect things like this. How can you not? You bump old threads with your Nostradamus cap on. You're putting yourself out there and then get lazy on the follow up. How do you think that looks?

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    Look, you put yourself out there, you have to expect things like this. How can you not? You bump old threads with your Nostradamus cap on. You're putting yourself out there and then get lazy on the follow up. How do you think that looks?
    lol it doesn't matter. I made a statement and this dude out of nowhere came out. I don't care about a vendetta with him, but he apparently does. I never made mention of anyone bc I don't care to call others out. The nostradmus posts are for fun, getting in a vendetta with TD is an annoyance, saavy?

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    lol it doesn't matter. I made a statement and this dude out of nowhere came out. I don't care about a vendetta with him, but he apparently does. I never made mention of anyone bc I don't care to call others out. The nostradmus posts are for fun, getting in a vendetta with TD is an annoyance, saavy?

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    lol this is why I like you... lol you have nice sense of humor which some guys lack. lol

    I found this for you its in teh "Kyle Anderson isn't good enough thread" I really didn't want to share this bc it just really isn't my style to call others out, like I guess TD likes to do... calling others out seems to be what he enjoys exchanging opinions about and I don't care about that.


    He says of Anderson and Simmons
    The reality is, they're not good enough to play the role they need to at this level to be successful (at least on an elite team) and unless Murray makes an unexpected quantum leap in the next year, they're going to need to go out and find a second unit creator, if Ginobili does the expected and retires.

    In the meantime, whether you and your buddy like it or not, the bench offensively still rightfully revolves around Ginobili and he needs more floor spacers surrounding him.
    To be fair to TD, I cited the whole thing to give context. I made a general statement about it, but not with the intention of going down this road. Rightfully or not, Ginobili may fall off a cliff soon is my opinion and there will be games like the one last night, when even J.Simms with a characteristic mistake game, still had a stretch where he played much better and was able to swing things around. That is going to become common. Maybe some nights Manu is the one having a good night, but there are likely to be nights it's others, and it's wrong to rely on Manu to carry the burden, and in fact, I don't know if you yourself noticed Mr. tonight, but Manu deferred and played off the ball, and there were times he touched the ball, that bad things happened actually.

    Manu himself said, he would not be surprised if these guys took minutes from him eventually or play better. He was honest saying from his perspective they are both talented and it is only natural that they play better and improve.

    So there you have it. I mean I have my favorites and all, but assuming Manu is going to carry this bench and everyone has to play around him is a bygone era. He's spotting and playing off the ball more and more himself.

    (Now wait for TD to revive the vendetta, which is why I don't like to go down these roads lol)... but see just bc you are so funny...

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    no heat thread yet? goran dragic just left the place i'm eating at downtown.

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    lol this is why I like you... lol you have nice sense of humor which some guys lack. lol

    I found this for you its in teh "Kyle Anderson isn't good enough thread" I really didn't want to share this bc it just really isn't my style to call others out, like I guess TD likes to do... calling others out seems to be what he enjoys exchanging opinions about and I don't care about that.


    He says of Anderson and Simmons


    To be fair to TD, I cited the whole thing to give context. I made a general statement about it, but not with the intention of going down this road. Rightfully or not, Ginobili may fall off a cliff soon is my opinion and there will be games like the one last night, when even J.Simms with a characteristic mistake game, still had a stretch where he played much better and was able to swing things around. That is going to become common. Maybe some nights Manu is the one having a good night, but there are likely to be nights it's others, and it's wrong to rely on Manu to carry the burden, and in fact, I don't know if you yourself noticed Mr. tonight, but Manu deferred and played off the ball, and there were times he touched the ball, that bad things happened actually.

    Manu himself said, he would not be surprised if these guys took minutes from him eventually or play better. He was honest saying from his perspective they are both talented and it is only natural that they play better and improve.

    So there you have it. I mean I have my favorites and all, but assuming Manu is going to carry this bench and everyone has to play around him is a bygone era. He's spotting and playing off the ball more and more himself.

    (Now wait for TD to revive the vendetta, which is why I don't like to go down these roads lol)... but see just bc you are so funny...
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