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    You do understand that relieving them would include breaking the siege right? Assad's Syrian Army is the one besieging Aleppo, dimwit.
    I have a hunch that you never served a day. It's all reading material for you.

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    NO HILLARY SAID IT WAS A MISTAKE AND ADMITS IT AND SAYS IT IS OK
    OH SHE SAID WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE NOW?

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    I have a hunch that you never served a day. It's all reading material for you.
    Has your fat ass?

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    HOW DO YOU KNOW HE IS FAT?

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    Do you not understand that attacking Syrian Forces by air will involve US airplanes being shot down with soviet A-400 missiles? It is being realistic, not cowardly, to acknowledge that, dumbass.
    That is what the Russians threatened. You buy it 100% at face value. That is what I get.

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    That is what the Russians threatened. You buy it 100% at face value. That is what I get.
    Yeah, I do. And only dumb s like you think differently. Putin won't back down on this one.

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    Yeah, I do. And only dumb s like you think differently. Putin won't back down on this one.
    You mean like his response when the Turks shot his down?

    Then of course there is the countermeasures we have developed over the past 50 years to deal with radar based air defense systems.

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    Yeah, I do. And only dumb s like you think differently. Putin won't back down on this one.
    Erdogan practically sucked his . Again, I understand you shoot from the hip and don't really follow the news. After the coup, Erdogan and Putin are big buddies.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/russi...ns-coup-2016-8

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    i say go for it. we got the best planes and the best pilot in the world. his call sign is "Maverick"

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    also be a good time to test russian equipment.

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    also be a good time to test russian equipment.
    The only way to possibly defeat the A-400 system is by hoping to take them out ahead of time with the F-22 and hoping they can't detect stealth aircraft as advertised. Our conventional fleet would have virtually a 100% death rate with the A-400. Obviously, attacking the A-400 sites would be a direct attack on Russian soldiers.

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    Erdogan practically sucked his . Again, I understand you shoot from the hip and don't really follow the news. After the coup, Erdogan and Putin are big buddies.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/russi...ns-coup-2016-8
    now you are moving the goalposts. I especially like how you pretend you didn't just pull some google foo to come up with that and I'm the ignorant one. Apparently Erdogan had to wait in line behind you.

    Perhaps you should research the Fall of Constantinople To Mehmed in the 15th century, the relationship of the Eastern Church with Rus, and the relationship between the two for over half a millennium.

    Erdogan has been posturing ever since we helped out the Kurds in Kobani. If you want to believe that the Turks are going to leave NATO to go with Russia then you have at it. If they don't let us use their airbases then that would be news. Photo-ops don't do much for me.

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    The only way to possibly defeat the A-400 system is by hoping to take them out ahead of time with the F-22 and hoping they can't detect stealth aircraft as advertised. Our conventional fleet would have virtually a 100% death rate with the A-400. Obviously, attacking the A-400 sites would be a direct attack on Russian soldiers.
    well.....you just screwed up that plan, spilled all the beans. i hope you're happy.

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    The only way to possibly defeat the A-400 system is by hoping to take them out ahead of time with the F-22 and hoping they can't detect stealth aircraft as advertised. Our conventional fleet would have virtually a 100% death rate with the A-400. Obviously, attacking the A-400 sites would be a direct attack on Russian soldiers.
    Yeah because we don't have our own missile systems in the region designed to take out SAMs. Only the Russians have that capability. . . . .

    Only way possible

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    Yeah because we don't have our own missile systems in the region. Only the Russians have that capability.

    Only way possible
    of course our missiles are there.

    the iranians got em
    isis got em
    saudi got em
    israel got em.....etc

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    of course our missiles are there.

    the iranians got em
    isis got em
    saudi got em
    israel got em.....etc
    flam tap splash

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    Yeah because we don't have our own missile systems in the region designed to take out SAMs. Only the Russians have that capability. . . . .

    Only way possible
    So you want to unilaterally attack the Russians over Aleppo.

    and you talk about TRUMP being irresponsible...

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    So you want to unilaterally attack the Russians over Aleppo.

    and you talk about TRUMP being irresponsible...
    That is not what I said. You have trouble keeping up? I said we have counters should Russian SAMs be utilized. I specifically stated that we should not target Russian assets except in defense of course.

    You're the one cheerleading Russian military capability and supporting Obama's foreign policy.

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    That is not what I said. You have trouble keeping up? I said we have counters should Russian SAMs be utilized. I specifically stated that we should not target Russian assets except in defense of course.

    You're the one cheerleading Russian military capability and supporting Obama's foreign policy.
    Russians and Syrians are co-mingled in their air defenses and you can't use air power on Aleppo without going after their air defenses. Quit being so stupid. Obama can talk all he wants but he is out of options short of direct conflict with the Russians.

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    Russians and Syrians are co-mingled in their air defenses and you can't use air power on Aleppo without going after their air defenses. Quit being so stupid. Obama can talk all he wants but he is out of options short of direct conflict with the Russians.
    Yeah I'm sure you have it all figured out. What is stupid is feigning certainty from a position of ignorance.

    IF you want to be defeatist go ahead. I don't roll like that.

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    Yeah I'm sure you have it all figured out. What is stupid is feigning certainty from a position of ignorance.

    IF you want to be defeatist go ahead. I don't roll like that.
    Fuzzy, the warmonger.

    roll, pussy, roll.

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    I said we have counters should Russian SAMs be utilized. I specifically stated that we should not target Russian assets except in defense of course.
    So you want to send in our fighter pilots and just hope the Russians are kind enough not to shoot them down?

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    So you want to send in our fighter pilots and just hope the Russians are kind enough not to shoot them down?
    Who said it had to be fighters? Why not the B-2 or something designed to avoid what you are fearmongering about?

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    Fuzzy, the warmonger.

    roll, pussy, roll.
    So says the defeatist.

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    You do understand that if Russia SAMs start attacking US forces that means they provoked WW3 right? Russia took the chance of our reprisal when they started attacking our allies. That is why we are told Obama is weak etc. Either you abandon that rhetoric or put your money where your mouth is when you call him weak and feckless.
    You gotta understand the art of war. Russia has troops and servicemen embedded with Syrian forces. You dont think they will defend those guys? ?

    They already said in plain english. Actually have been
    Repeating daily for several weeks "an attack on Russian/Syrian forces will be defended by our anti aircraft units"

    You think they deployed all those s300/400 for the fun of it?

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