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  1. #1101
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    Or you pick the Patriots at home to cover that -9 spread against some bottom feeding AFC fodder and they go up 35-7 and all looks good, until late in the 3rd quarter when they start giving up score after score because of prevent defense and the score winds up being 35-28 and you lose against the spread. You won SU, but lost ATS. Pointless.
    Did ya miss the part about....plus over 3000 right here the last two seasons? I usually win around 2000 a season and have been for the last 30 years, that's pointless?

    in 2014 spurraider didn't believe my boasts of ATS prowess so he has this Avante Betting Tracker thread, it was designed to...let's all laugh at Avante....and I started out in week one....down 330, and here they came....YOU SUCK...HAHAHA...FAKE...SUCK..

    By week 14 I'm up over a 1000 and nobody wants to talk about it anymore, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~

    spurraider went from....YIPPEE DOWN 330~~~~.....to, ok ok, up 1600....ha~~~~
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  2. #1102
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    Did ya miss the part about....plus over 3000 right here the last two seasons? I usually win around 2000 a season and have been for the last 30 years, that's pointless?
    Do you have to pay taxes on that?

  3. #1103
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    Do you have to pay taxes on that?
    Of course not that's what I mean by...my man. All totally illegal, and it appears ...my man...is out of business. The old...middle man, thing.

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    Of course not that's what I mean by...my man. All totally illegal, and it appears ...my man...is out of business. The old...middle man, thing.
    cool cool, but you spend that money on food and taking your girl/kids out, etc... don't use that money to buy a house.

  5. #1105
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    cool cool, but you spend that money on food and taking your girl/kids out, etc... don't use that money to buy a house.
    Not so much about the $$$, it's more about putting yourself in the game. If I stand to win a 100 vs lose 100 now you are there with everything having an effect on you. If....you...don't stand to win or lose anything does it really matter who wins ot loses? Totally different deal if you have to hand out 330.

    And it;s pretty cool sitting down with some stats/trends figuring it all out on paper then watching it all unfold like it said it would on that paper.

    I own a magazine..THE PLAYBOOK...put out by pro gambler Marc Lawrence. Everything ya need to know is there, every stat/trend there is.

  6. #1106
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    So Kaepernick will get the start Sunday ...AT...Buffalo.

    Are you kidding me? Chip Kelly is a 100% idiot. You do not switch QB's flying from the west coast to the east. Talk about stupid, there it is.

    The Niners are done for 2016, and if Kelly can't see that why am I not surprised? If he wants to make a change, he does it next week at home...then a bye...then at home. Ya don't do it now.

    Time to dump Kelly, the guy is a moron.

    And, if I'm a head coach and one of my players isn't joining his teammates on the sidelines during the National Anthem he's not playing on my team and I will give him that option.

    Coach Avante...you either stand or hit the showers, got it? And, if ya don't join your teammates you won't be here next week.

    If anyone needs to protest anything, protest why black men bail on their kids.
    I'm playing your Niners at +9. I tend to like playing teams that switch QB. They tend to rally behind the new QB that first game and do slightly better.

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    I'm playing your Niners at +9. I tend to like playing teams that switch QB. They tend to rally behind the new QB that first game and do slightly better.
    Niners as a RD the last 4 seasons a weak...7-12. Now add that dreaded west coast team in the eastern time zone, not good.

    You couldn't find a better "spot" than this?

    Yes 9 points is huge and if I HAD to play this game that would be the play, it's just too...????? And I know there are 3-5 better plays out there.

    Buffalo as a HF...13-8, but they never lay 9 points.

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    Niners as a RD the last 4 seasons a weak...7-12. Now add that dreaded west coast team in the eastern time zone, not good.

    You couldn't find a better "spot" than this?

    Yes 9 points is huge and if I HAD to play this game that would be the play, it's just too...????? And I know there are 3-5 better plays out there.

    Buffalo as a HF...13-8, but they never lay 9 points.
    Carolina -3.5
    Cleveland -7.5
    KC -1.5
    Seattle -6.5

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    Carolina -3.5
    Cleveland -7.5
    KC -1.5
    Seattle -6.5
    Cleveland + 7.5???? Talk me into it.

    Since I have nowhere to play ...yet...this season I'm not doing any ATS homework, so..???

    I do know the Seahawks suck coming off a bye week ATS from an histotical perspective. And the Chiefs shine after a bye week.

    There really is something very real to heading into/coming off a bye. Don't ignore this. Also look at those Thursday night teams and that HUGE advantage they have in their next game with all that extra time to prepare.

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    Cleveland + 7.5???? Talk me into it.

    Since I have nowhere to play ...yet...this season I'm not doing any ATS homework, so..???

    I do know the Seahawks suck coming off a bye week ATS from an histotical perspective. And the Chiefs shine after a bye week.

    There really is something very real to heading into/coming off a bye. Don't ignore this. Also look at those Thursday night teams and that HUGE advantage they have in their next game with all that extra time to prepare.
    Tennessee runs the ball well and plays decent defense. I don't think they've allowed over 20 points this year. Anyways, that formula can often help the ans stay in games, but it’s not the always the best fit when it comes to covering bigger spreads like these.

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    Tennessee runs the ball well and plays decent defense. I don't think they've allowed over 20 points this year. Anyways, that formula can often help the ans stay in games, but it’s not the always the best fit when it comes to covering bigger spreads like these.
    Good stuff.

    Now that I've looked te game from an ATS perspective, the Browns are the play. Try...3-0-1...in this "spot" recently.

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    We now have the same picks for this week I believe

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    Because I changed my pick to the Packers winning because Dez Bryant is out.

  14. #1114
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    We now have the same picks for this week I believe
    I can't ignore Andy Reid 15-2 after a bye, I changed to the Chiefs.

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    Because I changed my pick to the Packers winning because Dez Bryant is out.
    The only player that "alone" will change my mind, is the QB, now a ton of injuries will also change my mind.

  16. #1116
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    So what have we learned so far in 2016.

    Shady McCoy is not done.

    Andy Reid doesn;t lose after a bye.

    The Seahawks are at their worst after a bye.

    Derek Anderson sits on a bench for a reason, he sucks~

    My Niners totally suck and Chip Kelly is a moron.

    Brock Ozweiler is like most first time starters.

    Dak Prescott is already setting NFL records.

    Carson Wentz is a little better than most rookie QB's.

    The Browns are stupid on passing on Wentz to go with RGIII.

    The Steelers are hot, cold, hot, cold....

    The Panthers really are done for 2016.

    Clipper Nation has a rollicking sense of humor, now add that amazing smile.

    The NFC East the best division, not a weakling there.

    Terrance West can play, averaging 5 yards a carry
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    I often read....all the history means nothing, different players.

    I had the Chiefs beating the Raiders in Oakland for only one reason, Andy Reid 15-2 after a bye week, as we saw it doesn't matter who is on his teams he knows how to win with added time to prepare, now he is 16-2.

    Check it out.

    Dolphins
    Browns
    Texans
    Colts
    Chargers
    Eagles
    Lions
    Panthers

    ...are a combined ...0-21 on the road in 2016.

    Texans
    Chiefs
    Eagles
    Vikes
    Seahawks
    Steelers

    ....a combined 17-0 at home.
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    That theory of mine is looking pretty good.

    Once we start seeing these players doing all these commercials and start making all that $$$$ and are more than just another footballer, and become a ....celebrity...look what happens...

    Cam Newton...sucking.
    Aaron Rodgers....playing as bad as he ever has.
    RGIII...ha~~~
    Todd Gurley...where did he go?
    Odell Beckham...the guy is a mess**********
    Colin Kaepernick...are you kidding me?
    Victor Cruz...???

    Randall Cobb, Eddie Lacy, Rodgers, Matthews....and the Packers are struggling.

    Tony Romo....hurt, done?
    Peyton Manning...sucked his last season.
    Andrew Luck...hurt, INT INT.

    I do doubt their teammates are cool with all that special attention they get either, especially a real young guy like Todd Gurley.

    Dak Prescott is young, and as of right now he's not selling anything on tv, and as long as it stays that way....cool.

    ********** why hasn't anyone grabbed this little and ....."look ya little freak, cool your bull , you're becoming a ing embarrashing , ok? (then toss him a few feet)

    As I type this I just heard....

    Dak Prescott will be with us later on.....Colin Cowherd.
    Last edited by Avante; 10-17-2016 at 11:01 AM.

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    I can't ignore Andy Reid 15-2 after a bye, I changed to the Chiefs.
    Hey Almanac ,
    This was a very useful and current stat you posted on Reid.
    Try doing this again please.

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    Hey Almanac ,
    This was a very useful and current stat you posted on Reid.
    Try doing this again please.
    How about this one....

    The Browns have lost the season opener for over a decade, how did they do in 2016, yep...lost the season opener. Now you're thinking....so what that's over...right? How about next season, just like that Andy Reid trend. You put all this stuff in your memory banks for further use.

    As we saw with that Andy Reid trend, it really doesn't matter who the players are. Just like west coast teams in the eastern time zone and vice versa. Teams in a double home, double road. Teams heading into a bye, coming off a bye. Teams on the road on Thursday nights.

    The bottom line is having that info, and taking the time to put it into use. Most are simply too lazy to search things out, most are simply....I like the Niners...and it ends there.

    People are lazy, they don't want to spend the time to learn things.

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    What 9.5/10.45 speed looks like n a football field.




    His senior season in HS at the Mississippi State track champs the 230 pound Durpree loses the 100 by a lean, the guy who beat him the little Calvin Smith, who ended up at Alabama and ran a WR 9.93.

  22. #1122
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    That theory of mine is looking pretty good.

    Once we start seeing these players doing all these commercials and start making all that $$$$ and are more than just another footballer, and become a ....celebrity...look what happens...

    Cam Newton...sucking.
    Aaron Rodgers....playing as bad as he ever has.
    RGIII...ha~~~
    Todd Gurley...where did he go?
    Odell Beckham...the guy is a mess**********
    Colin Kaepernick...are you kidding me?
    Victor Cruz...???

    Randall Cobb, Eddie Lacy, Rodgers, Matthews....and the Packers are struggling.

    Tony Romo....hurt, done?
    Peyton Manning...sucked his last season.
    Andrew Luck...hurt, INT INT.

    I do doubt their teammates are cool with all that special attention they get either, especially a real young guy like Todd Gurley.

    Dak Prescott is young, and as of right now he's not selling anything on tv, and as long as it stays that way....cool.

    ********** why hasn't anyone grabbed this little and ....."look ya little freak, cool your bull , you're becoming a ing embarrashing , ok? (then toss him a few feet)

    As I type this I just heard....

    Dak Prescott will be with us later on.....Colin Cowherd.
    From what I've read, Dak has shied away from doing any endorsements for the time being. As long as the kid can keep his head straight I think he can be good for us for a long time.

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    Is this kid one cool dude or what?

    What gets me (most I think) is just how much damn $$$$$ does a guy really need? Peyton comes across as a greedy $$$$ hungry cat, doesn't he?

    There are all those 10 year vets who have paid their dues never seeing a dime in endorsements, then here comes this rookie....................

    Human nature ya understand.

    I see worrying about doing this spot and that spot as a distraction especially for young players. Some old guy about to retire....sure.

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    I have his rookie card.


    WHY A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL PLAYER COULD JUMP RIGHT TO THE NFL

    1. It has already happened



    This question has already been answered. The last time it was attempted, it was a success.

    Andy Livingston played on the 1964 Chicago Bears as a 19-year-old out of high school. He was a star running back and sprinter at Mesa High in Arizona. He never graduated because he got married and fathered a child, and subsequently stopped attending school.

    In a desire to support his family, and through some fortuitous breaks, Livingston connected with George Halas, who owned the Chicago Bears. Impressed by Livingston’s physical gifts, Halas secured a hardship exemption for Livingston, making him eligible to play with the Bears that fall.

    In his first game, the 6-foot-1, 235-pound Livingston returned a kickoff 86 yards for a touchdown. To provide some context for that impressive and rare feat, there were only two other kickoffs returned for scores in professional football that entire season.

    How many NFL would stand in line to sign a high school player if it was worth a special teams touchdown? Considering that last year’s NFL playoff games were decided by an average of 9.8 points, my guess: 32.

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    When I become an NFL head coach.

    Do not try and block a punt (other than raising up their hands) until it becomes real obvious we can't win the game unless we make something happen. Way too many stupid running into the kicker penalties.

    Same thing with all kicks.

    On a punt/kickoff return, just get in front of a would be tackler, don't worry about a return as much as a penalty. Do not use your hands at all.

    I'd run a three TE offense, and MUST have a mobile QB. Two speed receivers, who can play RB also. Then three FB/TE types, they can block, run, receive.

    I'm running three down linemen, and five backers, two corners and a single safety.

    60-40 running the ball, my goal is to wear down a defense and let my defense rest.

    I will do all I can to bring in players out of the power five conferences, (yes I know tons of great small school players) they are used to the big stage early on. And were recruited there for a reason.

    None of my players will be acting like a re ed monkey over a play, nobody taking a knee or doing anything to draw attention away from the team.

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