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doubling and tripling down on stupidity.
You think the Russians just trained Syrians overnight to operate their sophisticated radar and missile sites?
Who exactly are our allies in that cluster ?
You think the Russians just trained Syrians overnight to operate their sophisticated radar and missile sites?
Overnight? It's been a year, dimwit.
You think the Russians just trained Syrians overnight to operate their sophisticated radar and missile sites?
Specifically, the peshmerga, FSA, and turkish backed sunni militias where our special forces are embedded. You know the ones we've been coordinating air strikes with for years?
Oh. kind of like Al Queda and the Taliban in Afghanistan?
Last edited by CosmicCowboy; 10-16-2016 at 01:14 PM.
now the warmonger got is claiming to know Soviet troop deployments. Keep digging.
That would be your dumbass. You do understand that the timing deployment is not the same as disposition right? It was widely reported that Russia was moving armaments and vehicles south from the caucuses a year ago. Maybe you don't; wouldn't be surprising.
The groups I mentioned are not wahhabists so no, not like them at all.
Oh Yeah. Totally reliable *wink*wink*
So were Al Queda and the Taliban when it suited our/their purpose
Can't believe you are still doubling down on your ignorance in this thread.
The Kurd are what they are. The Syrian Army officers who couped are who they are. The turkish militias are what they are.
Wahhabism presents particular problems that is what it is. Your retort is incredulity? No doubt US foreign policy was naive in the 1980s but that doesn't create a boogeyman.
I can believe that you have absolutely nothing substantive to add to this thread. I do think its hilarious that you are so butthurt about me that you will support Obama policy and denigrate US military capability just to be contrary, fattie.
Can't believe you are still doubling down on your ignorance in this thread.
I think it's hilarious that you are frantically building strawmen just to change the subject from your stupidity and ignorance.
Attack the Russians...
Fuzzy the uninformed war monger...
Obama isn't doing anything militarily to stop the bombing in Aleppo because he can't without directly attacking Russian troops. He just has to hope the Russians actually do the humanitarian cease fire they are talking about.
Change the subject from what? Me? The strawman comment is pure irony.
I think it's hilarious that you are frantically building strawmen just to change the subject from your stupidity and ignorance.
Attack the Russians...
Fuzzy the uninformed war monger...
Obama isn't doing anything militarily to stop the bombing in Aleppo because he can't without directly attacking Russian troops. He just has to hope the Russians actually do the humanitarian cease fire they are talking about.
I get that Obama is not going to do anything. You are supporting Obama's policy with your position in this thread nonetheless.
I am stating that Obama's previous policies in Syria have left him no choice but to sit back and watch them bomb the out of Aleppo until they decide to stop.
That is the first time you have stated that. You are still supporting Obama's current policy and you have given no indication that you would have done anything differently.
Obama was a pussy. He loudly advocated "red lines" and "non negotiable" regime change in Syria but didn't have the balls to back up his "moral convictions". Instead, he tried to cynically use ill-equipped and ill-trained surrogates to do the dirty work for him. The Russians bluntly told him he was ing up and they would back Assad if Obama kept it up. He did, they did, and here we are, totally helpless now to stop the slaughter. Obama planted the seeds of this disaster years ago. Obama should have just gone to the UN and expressed his "outrage" and left it at that instead of just half ass ing around in Syria. We reap what we sow, and our surrogate "allies" as you call them are gonna get the big Obama chorizo.
Fuzzy, you can always have the Navy send a frigate to confront Putin and the Russians...
There are other choices.
Continue to arm rebels against Assad. They are obviously very resilient. But in the long run all this might accomplish is killing more innocent people while keeping Russia and Assad involved in a taxing endeavor. This crap is really a mess for everyone involved. Some also claim this is important in that it allows Iran to gain a foothold in the ME. Well it also gives us a chance to chop off tentacles and show the Iranians once again we can influence any situation in th ME, Covert or not.. Proxy or direct. We also could coax Sunni ME "allies" to play a bigger role. There are many options.
We also must consider how many more displaced innocents will be trying to flood Europe.
In any case, Assad does not control his old country anymore. And, innocent families just trying to live have been killed, torn apart, displaced... quite horrible.
"Obama's previous policies in Syria have left him no choice"
Oh Great GeoPolitician, tell us, in the wisdom of your hindsight, what other policies were available to address the Repug storm for BigOil?
And why didn't the neocon/regime-changing Repugs stop the storm they started?
see post 117.
No point arming the rebels just to exarcebate the war. Focus on ISIS and let Assad and the Russians do whatever. Syria should have never been our problem in the first place.
Turkey isn't helping matters either, especially in Iraq where they are launching bombing campaigns in Mosul. Their main objective is to help the Sunnis there and to make sure that the Kurds don't get their own country.
The Russians have been drawn in.
There are a number of ways to make life very difficult for a country (Russia) already trying to project anything because they are a financial mess. This is NOT some sort of victory for them. Bravado Is quickly forgotten when they keep pouring money they don't have into a crappy situation.
We are not in any sort of power problem. That's just stupid. The problem we have is innocents getting slaughtered. That's not a problem for the Russians. There is no push back within their government for humanitarian considerations.
We have plenty of options if we want nasty, plenty.
Last edited by pgardn; 10-18-2016 at 10:41 AM.
No there is a point for some conservative war Hawks. Make things tough on Iran, Russia and Assad. Keep them occupied and drain them. This is a very salient point. We have been pulled into like this and we have the money to pay for it, they don't. And to with casualties. This clearly still captivates some American politicians.
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