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    If all they're doing is vehemently voicing opposition to Trump and Trump supporters without engaging in violence themselves (even if they're sort of hoping that the other side will go there), how is it any different really?

    Other than perhaps that you choose to agree with one group and disagree with the other . . . .
    I don't think that's what they're doing. The video spoke to training sessions given to people solely for the purpose of teaching them how to start a fight. These aren't innocent people voicing political opposition. They're there to start a fight.

    You're free to disbelieve the video. But if you accept it at face value, your characterization of the agitators as people who simply disagree with Trump supporters is inaccurate.

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    Protesting, heckling, "free assembly" are not violent

    Trash INCITES his asshole supporters to react violently against the protesters.

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    So if I put on a " Trayvon" shirt and walk down MLK blvd in X city and get knocked the out, those people who did it should have better restraint?

    Do you folks feel the same way about the black folks being shot by cops because they "overreacted" to being stopped and searched?

    This forum is a neat little microcosm of the issues in this country politically; party lines cause folks to turn a blind eye to corruption as long as it benefits them. You can see it with the refusal to acknowledge or even watch the video, but to give a tu quoque response instead.

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    So if I put on a " Trayvon" shirt and walk down MLK blvd in X city and get knocked the out, those people who did it should have better restraint?

    Do you folks feel the same way about the black folks being shot by cops because they "overreacted" to being stopped and searched?

    This forum is a neat little microcosm of the issues in this country politically; party lines cause folks to turn a blind eye to corruption as long as it benefits them. You can see it with the refusal to acknowledge or even watch the video, but to give a tu quoque response instead.
    Cosigned. Also when these protests were happening, people were blaming Trump (including Republicans like Cruz) for saying his words were causing violence. Now you have proof of how leftists are paid to instigate and people are like "well ...uh....it's only words."

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    So if I put on a " Trayvon" shirt and walk down MLK blvd in X city and get knocked the out, those people who did it should have better restraint?

    Do you folks feel the same way about the black folks being shot by cops because they "overreacted" to being stopped and searched?

    This forum is a neat little microcosm of the issues in this country politically; party lines cause folks to turn a blind eye to corruption as long as it benefits them. You can see it with the refusal to acknowledge or even watch the video, but to give a tu quoque response instead.

    Absolutely they should.


    They should also be arrested.

    Overreacting... Using deadly force should be reserved for extreme situations. When the cops or innocents lives are in immediate danger then the use of deadly force is justified IMO. These are not nice neat encounters for the most part so this can of course be very difficult.

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    Cosigned. Also when these protests were happening, people were blaming Trump (including Republicans like Cruz) for saying his words were causing violence. Now you have proof of how leftists are paid to instigate and people are like "well ...uh....it's only words."
    People treat politics like a sporting event. They won't ever say their guy flops, or that he traveled or that the refs swallowed their whistle on your own team. In politics, the reason they behave this way is because the soccer fan mentality of their cons uents allows them a free pass. Then the other party tries to have them jailed for something trite.

    Why can't people condemn ty behavior regardless who its from? When are folks going to realize that Trump and the Clintons are better friends than either will ever be with you? They've lined each others pockets for decades, this little show is just a distraction. The real over came against Bernie Sanders. Everyone's blinded by the slight of hand though.

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    I don't think that's what they're doing. The video spoke to training sessions given to people solely for the purpose of teaching them how to start a fight. These aren't innocent people voicing political opposition. They're there to start a fight.

    You're free to disbelieve the video. But if you accept it at face value, your characterization of the agitators as people who simply disagree with Trump supporters is inaccurate.
    I caught up and watched the video, and besides the obvious campaign law violations, you could argue they could easily be charged in violation of 18 USC 373 and 2101.

    Obviously, you would need more than a guy talking into a camera, but if it's as brazen as described, you would think it shouldn't be difficult to dig up some evidence (ie: phone call traces).

    More than intent, I think a more solid case can be brought under conspiracy.

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    ^Those two won't be employed for long. Never mind the election being around the corner.

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    So if I put on a " Trayvon" shirt and walk down MLK blvd in X city and get knocked the out, those people who did it should have better restraint?

    Do you folks feel the same way about the black folks being shot by cops because they "overreacted" to being stopped and searched?

    This forum is a neat little microcosm of the issues in this country politically; party lines cause folks to turn a blind eye to corruption as long as it benefits them. You can see it with the refusal to acknowledge or even watch the video, but to give a tu quoque response instead.
    I would expect those that assaulted you to be criminally prosecuted and they would be if caught. Not sure what you think you are proving here. The violence at BLM rallies has been universally condemened.

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    ^Those two won't be employed for long. Never mind the election being around the corner.
    It doesn't matter to them - mission accomplished - the impression of violence/Trump rallies already baked in for the general population. Some on this board - going on and on defending this pre-planned, coordinated, trained, paid behavior - smh.

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    Trash encouraged violence, his assholes complied, his assholes also threaten violence to any who opposes Trash, will intimidate voters as Trash requested

    None of this has anything to do with Dems

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    Obnoxious loud music warning


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    Is Trump Urging His Gun-Toting Supporters To Break Voter Intimidation Laws?

    Donald Trump is engaging in an unprecedented campaign of voter fraud fear-mongering. Not only is he putting Americans’ trust in the bedrock of U.S. democracy at risk, but what he has urged his supporters to do -- in stump speeches across the country -- would, if carried out, likely be a form of illegal voter intimidation.

    “The idea that people would be standing outside the polls with guns, or even inside the polls with guns, clearly has the potential to turn people away.

    There’s a long history of this,” said Deuel Ross, an attorney for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, which is very active in voting rights litigation.


    His group plans to be observing elections in Georgia, Texas, Alabama, Louisiana and South Carolina.

    “These are places with a history of voter intimidation and also very liberal gun laws,” Ross said.

    The Voting Rights Act includes a provision that prohibits any attempt to “intimidate, threaten, or coerce” a person trying to vote, and there's a section of the federal criminal code banning voter intimidation as well.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/is-t...+%28TPMNews%29




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    I would expect those that assaulted you to be criminally prosecuted and they would be if caught. Not sure what you think you are proving here. The violence at BLM rallies has been universally condemened.
    You didn't answer the question. Typical for you. Should the black person who hit me have better restraint?

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    It doesn't matter to them - mission accomplished - the impression of violence/Trump rallies already baked in for the general population. Some on this board - going on and on defending this pre-planned, coordinated, trained, paid behavior - smh.
    No it matters. This isn't a summer gig for them. No one will hire them knowing they blab to whomever they meet in a bar.

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    "violence/Trump rallies already baked in for the general population"

    The Dems forced Trash's supporters to sock, rough up anti-Trash people?

    Trash and his goonish, thuggish supporters are gonna get the electoral reaming they're asking for.





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    You pretend like you don't know this stains history of presenting edited videos to slobbering mongoloids, no offense. The op along with her brother ducks, are the two stupidest people on this entire site (which so you know is not a good thing).

    and to answer your question, anyone who physically assaults someone should be have better self control. However, the racist piece of that confronts them should as well. Don't start nothing won't be nothing, almost all the time. So don't pretend you're innocent when you provoke people
    Doesn't matter. If campaign people are made aware of it they'll pull anchor on these guys. Appearance of impropriety is almost as bad as impropriety.

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    It doesn't matter to them - mission accomplished - the impression of violence/Trump rallies already baked in for the general population. Some on this board - going on and on defending this pre-planned, coordinated, trained, paid behavior - smh.
    Who are the some on THIS board?

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    You didn't answer the question. Typical for you. Should the black person who hit me have better restraint?
    If I am saying that he should be held criminally responsible I would expect people who have graduated HS to have the requisite critical thinking skills to figure it out. You need it spelled out for you?

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    It doesn't matter to them - mission accomplished - the impression of violence/Trump rallies already baked in for the general population. Some on this board - going on and on defending this pre-planned, coordinated, trained, paid behavior - smh.
    You're mistaking our lack of a hyperbolic reaction as defense. It's dirty politics and we should do something about it. We can start with banning SuperPACs.

    But this reveal isn't really a game changer to this election.

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    If I am saying that he should be held criminally responsible I would expect people who have graduated HS to have the requisite critical thinking skills to figure it out. You need it spelled out for you?
    Or you could stop being a and answer the actual question. Nah that'll never happen.

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    Or you could stop being a and answer the actual question. Nah that'll never happen.
    I'm more than satisfied with the current state of you not being able to figure it out. You are wondering if I think they should have restrained themselves? I'm stating that I consider it a criminal act.

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    You're mistaking our lack of a hyperbolic reaction as defense. It's dirty politics and we should do something about it. We can start with banning SuperPACs.

    But this reveal isn't really a game changer to this election.
    How about organized voter fraud?

    O'Keefe video #2

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    How come not even The Intercept has written about part 1? Are they in the tank for HRC too?

    I'll wait for someone else to vet part 2 before wasting my time again.

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    How come not even The Intercept has written about part 1? Are they in the tank for HRC too?

    I'll wait for someone else to vet part 2 before wasting my time again.
    Or you could just watch the video. This one is truly damning.

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