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    Really? What would be Jackie's motivation behind creating a fic ious fluff piece centering around the Spurs second best player all while covering another basketball team in an entirely different conference? Just because Jackie's source doesn't have ties to the Spurs organization doesn't mean source of Jackie's source doesn't. I'm not dismissing it but, it's out of character for MacMullan to just make stuff up.
    She's not her own source. If Ainge told her the Spurs were open to offers, then she's doing her job by reporting it. But that doesn't mean that Ainge understands the situation from the Spurs' perspective.

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    The rumors are real. But nothing is in the works. This will only catch fire again around the trade deadline...let's proceed
    Thanks, Coach. We'll follow your lead.

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    The Spurs could also know someone's lying if they have NEVER put anything out there including talking with other GMs. They could confront someone just like how Mark Cuban roasted that sauces dude.

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    That may be true, but for many multiple posts throughout this thread has been tres defending her honor to bouy his points. How is that working out for you?
    Well the "rumors" now are that she called the Spurs personally to apologize for apparently spinning speculation out of control.

    Why would she apologize, right?

    I didn't think she was making stuff up, but her statements didn't come within the context of her reporting anything. It was a vague comment with actually her own personal inflection that she wouldn't take Aldridge for the Celtics based on what she heard. She never said what she heard to begin with or from whom. That statement by itself has spun with reporters giving perspectives from the Portland LMA, Lillard, and a lot of extraneous stuff that Jackie Mac never said. That would be the first reason to apologize I am guessing. Her nonspecific careless statements actually left vague open for interpretation, instead of her reporting anything clearly and there is no way to clean that up right now.

    I do think Spurs have listened to offers for Aldridge, but they listen to offers for a lot of players. That is not the same as actively shopping someone. I doubt they can get fair value for LMA so I would rather they don't trade him.

    They also made moves like re-signing Manu (!!!) and getting an aged Pau Gasol that scream the team wants to compete right now. If they wanted to rebuild for a season and really transition to a different era, they would have approached their offseason very differently, starting by making moves on draft day, etc. They clearly didn't want to punt a season IMO.

    Heck Manu4tres himself was in favor of getting different guys than Gasol and building a team for the future and Spurs didn't do that, so that also doesn't scream to me that LMA is being shopped. The timing seems terrible for it to actually improve this team.

    Now things can change, obviously once the season starts. And this is my guess, that there are a lot of GMs paying attention to the situation to try to fleece RC for LMA.

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    You wanted me to quote the whole article? I only posted what Jabari first reported a few minutes after what he first reported. I have no agenda.

    Not sure what you're trying to accomplish but it's all based on your assumptions -- which are wrong.
    Not anymore. I already cited the edited and nonedited articles. The original line is not changed in the update. I wnet ahead and looked on Young's twitter timeline and it only shows the one update on the next day which again I already linked.

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    You don't think there's any possibility that Spurs' brass would lie and say whatever possible to destroy these rumors to start the season?

    You think they'd want to keep these rumors around the team to start the year?

    You think they'd admit guilt and ruin their lockeroom and any potential trade value with Aldridge?

    You don't think there's any possibility the Spurs would lie to local reporters to get them to shut down these rumors down?

    Common sense people. Whether there's truth behind the rumors or not, Spurs would never admit it and would probably do everything in their power to squash the rumors. It's common sense.

    I could have told you myself they'd squash these rumors -- even if there was some truth behind them. IF there was truth -- I'm not saying there is.

    Some people have trouble understanding the thoughts of objective minded people.
    Anything is possible. A meteor could strike NYC in the next 30 seconds. They could have done all those things. I don't think they did. And calling out a reporter, publicly, saying that they felt the need to call the team to apologize for a garbage story should bear a response from said reporter, defending herself and her ability to do good reporting. I know I would...

    I shall await that response.

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    Not anymore. I already cited the edited and nonedited articles. The original line is not changed in the update. I wnet ahead and looked on Young's twitter timeline and it only shows the one update on the next day which again I already linked.
    For the third time, the sentence after the original line (the one I posted) was edited or added on 30 minutes to an hour after he first posted just the line I quoted. The original was edited before the new update was released.

    That is the absolute truth. Whether you want to believe it or not, that's not my problem.

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    Well the "rumors" now are that she called the Spurs personally to apologize for apparently spinning speculation out of control.

    Why would she apologize, right?

    I didn't think she was making stuff up, but her statements didn't come within the context of her reporting anything. It was a vague comment with actually her own personal inflection that she wouldn't take Aldridge for the Celtics based on what she heard. She never said what she heard to begin with or from whom. That statement by itself has spun with reporters giving perspectives from the Portland LMA, Lillard, and a lot of extraneous stuff that Jackie Mac never said. That would be the first reason to apologize I am guessing. Her nonspecific careless statements actually left vague open for interpretation, instead of her reporting anything clearly and there is no way to clean that up right now.

    I do think Spurs have listened to offers for Aldridge, but they listen to offers for a lot of players. That is not the same as actively shopping someone. I doubt they can get fair value for LMA so I would rather they don't trade him.

    They also made moves like re-signing Manu (!!!) and getting an aged Pau Gasol that scream the team wants to compete right now. If they wanted to rebuild for a season and really transition to a different era, they would have approached their offseason very differently, starting by making moves on draft day, etc. They clearly didn't want to punt a season IMO.

    Heck Manu4tres himself was in favor of getting different guys than Gasol and building a team for the future and Spurs didn't do that, so that also doesn't scream to me that LMA is being shopped. The timing seems terrible for it to actually improve this team.

    Now things can change, obviously once the season starts. And this is my guess, that there are a lot of GMs paying attention to the situation to try to fleece RC for LMA.
    Yeah, for as much value as LMA might lose from being on the team another year, he lost more by not being traded on Draft Night. Even the buyers would want an off-season to bulid around him, just as the Spurs would want one to recover from losing him. I really think that teams called the Spurs once Tim announced he was quitting, because they felt that it was a sign the team was packing it in. A lot of GMs have the same skewed lack of faith as posters on ST.

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    You wanted me to quote the whole article? I only posted what Jabari first reported a few minutes after what he first reported. I have no agenda.

    Not sure what you're trying to accomplish but it's all based on your assumptions -- which are wrong.
    These are not assumptions. These are the edited and unedited articles from the mysa website.

    Then there is the tabloid nature of ESPN as he willfully parrots from the echo chamber.

    Further this is the unupdated article posted on the 18th:

    http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/spu...re-9981115.php

    This is the updated article:

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...re-9981115.php

    They both differ from the OP's quote.
    So now you are saying that there is a third update not listed on his website and not logged as updated on their dateline which is their normal protocol and not listed on twitter? That is what you are claiming right?

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    Fuzzy being a got again. What doesn't he understand?

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    They could have done all those things. I don't think they did..
    Okay well, thank you for clarifying that you understand how they could do those things. That's my point. Your opinion is subjective. All I'm saying is the truth isn't conclusive. We will never know unless a trade actually happens down the line. But even if it doesn't happen, it doesn't mean these rumors weren't true either.

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    According to LaMarcus he's happy with the spurs - "We made history last year. I'm winning" - Jim Rome show

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    Okay well, thank you for clarifying that you understand how they could do those things. That's my point. Your opinion is subjective. All I'm saying is it's not conclusive with what exactly happened.
    No prob, bud. Ain't looking very good though that it did happen, when specifically talking about the Spurs intention to shop LMA right now, but like you said, objective minds will keep that thought train open, despite evidence and the entire thought process not really working out for it to be.

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    No prob, bud. Ain't looking very good though that it did happen, when specifically talking about the Spurs intention to shop LMA right now, but like you said, objective minds will keep that thought train open, despite evidence and the entire thought process not really working out for it to be.
    Do you think the Spurs would admit the truth behind the rumors?

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    Do you think the Spurs would admit the truth behind the rumors?
    Why would you repeat a question I already directly answered? Do you think MacMullan didn't rip this idea off of Lowe's Crazy Predictions article?

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    Fuzzy being a got again. What doesn't he understand?
    He doesn't understand much, apparently.

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    Do you think the Spurs would admit the truth behind the rumors?
    Apparently they did. Joe Reinagel said so. Case closed!

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    Why would you repeat a question I already directly answered? Do you think MacMullan didn't rip this idea off of Lowe's Crazy Predictions article?
    Based off her history no.

    I believe she heard of something or a story, but the something was probably not that big of a problem as she may have implied. I don't think she just makes crap up.

    Truth is, we won't ever know.

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    Apparently they did. Joe Reinagel said so. Case closed!
    No .

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    Based off her history no.

    I believe she heard of something or a story, but the something was probably not that big of a problem as she may have implied. I don't think she just makes crap up.

    Truth is, we won't ever know.
    That is true bud. No point in shoving our into each other's throats, I guess. You're good peeps.

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    Such a weird rumor tbh. Odd that it got this big before being extinguished

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    According to LaMarcus he's happy with the spurs - "We made history last year. I'm winning" - Jim Rome show
    what a ing loser..what history? they lost in the 2nd round..

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    what a ing loser..what history? they lost in the 2nd round..
    67 wins.

    pales in comparison to a larry o brien trophy but helping to set a franchise record is making history.

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    what a ing loser..what history? they lost in the 2nd round..
    By "We", he meant "He" made history last year. First time he's ever made it past a game 5 of the WC semis.

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    67 wins.

    pales in comparison to a larry o brien trophy but helping to set a franchise record is making history.
    Loser's mentality, my ..

    Maybe if the Spurs were the Suns or some other ty franchise, RS wins would mean something..

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