How Tony Parker Is Evolving to Give Spurs Just What They Need

[spursistan]

Yup.

Plus, arguing that those are the kind kf shots he had to take is pretty damn flawed and ridiculous. He had to take those shots, ecause he run sets and made decisions that forced him to take those shots.

Its like running 20 P&R's for himself getting open shots and then arguing it was ok cause it was open...its idiotic because it completely ignores the fact that he run things to maximise his own effectiviness and opportunities...even thoug hes current level is .

No one is saying he shouldnt be taking open shots...But continously running sets and plays designed to maximise the his position for scoring is a other way of playing selfish basketball..vwry subtle, but very selfish.

At least hes not Aldrige but still..

doesn't like he worked on his spot-up shooting (volume 3s) and i've barely seen Kawhi holding the rock and initiating action when they are both on court..same old story ..

[J_Paco]

doesn't like he worked on his spot-up shooting (volume 3s) and i've barely seen Kawhi holding the rock and initiating action when they are both on court..same old story ..

Kawhi should run more of the offense, but he isn't a point guard or a "point forward" in the vein of Scottie Pippen, Grant Hill, LeBron James or Rick Barry. Forcing him to try to create (too much) offense for teammates could be at his detriment. We'll have to see if Pop thinks he is ready for that burden since he is the one calling the shots not "selfish, ballhog" Tony Parker.

but my role has changed, my job now is to be a leader and help spread the Spurs unselfish culture

Its so weird and fake to hear him talk about unselfishness. It's like when Kirby used to talk about the Lakers needing to play the right way when he was the main culprit for their style of play.

Yeah, it just like Bryant since Kobe willingly accepted a secondary role, played less minutes and gave up "the keys to the car" to extend the winning culutre and positive vibes on the team. Oh wait.......

Parker is a flawed player (like all players not named Jordan), but I doubt he believes he can still carry an offense or even needs to. He just needs to remain efficient on offense and somehow not lose the Spurs too many games on defense.

[gambit1990]

people still making excuses for tp

he finished the preseason 58th in assists.

averaged 3.3 assists and 2 turnovers.

[J_Paco]

people still making excuses for tp

he finished the preseason 58th in assists.

averaged 3.3 assists and 2 turnovers.

Who the is keeping preseason stats?

You really are a special kind of dumb, man.

[MultiTroll]

Parker took shots he was supposed to take. You can't be a successful faciltator if you pass those up. Bigger problem is that he missed some easy ones.

Teams have figured that out so are structuring their defenses to feed him those shots and keep it away from the moneymakers.
Fark even Doc Rivers figured that out in 2015 playoffs. We saw how that turned out.

[kaji157]

Gaining weight is not evolving tbh

LOL

[Chinook]

Teams have figured that out so are structuring their defenses to feed him those shots and keep it away from the moneymakers.
Fark even Doc Rivers figured that out in 2015 playoffs. We saw how that turned out.

That has no affect on what he does against teams that don't take those attempts away.

[spursistan]

YGWHI

[gambit1990]

Who the is keeping preseason stats?

You really are a special kind of dumb, man.

if parker had good stats people here would be calling him MVParker.

read the le of the thread. you think him having the highest usage rate last night is tony parker evolving to give spurs just what they need?

[apalisoc_9]

Teams have actually structured their defense in such a way that would take advantage of Parkers inherit selfishness...

Literrly, when he tries to run his offense, it killls Leonard and Aldridge. Its a huge win for them.

The solution is to actually be willing to play offball to negate that plan, but this

[Obstructed_View]

His passing thus far has not convinced me that he's evolving.

[YGWHI]

Kawhi should run more of the offense, but he isn't a point guard or a "point forward" in the vein of Scottie Pippen, Grant Hill, LeBron James or Rick Barry.

No, he isn't. But he draws the defensive attention way more than Parker, that means there are a lot of good/better opportunities for others with him running it than with Parker.

Anyway, like I've said before, the biggest issue is the way that Kawhi plays with Parker compare to him with Patty/Manu.

When Parker has the ball, he isn't looking for Kawhi because he's a point guard who has fed his whole career a big man like Duncan, now he does the same with LMA/Pau because he doesn't incorporate the two-man game with a wing like Westbrook.

When Patty/Manu have the ball, Kawhi's more aggressive, even if he's not running the offense. But it's likely he also runs it with Patty/Manu on the court.

Folks said in playoffs 'but but why Kawhi isn't more aggressive, why he isn't taking over this game'...It's hard to take over when you doesn't have the ball in your hands and your point-guard is running plays only for him and the bigs, freezing you for long periods of time.

While Parker USG% looks almost identical to Kawhi's, this team won't improve against elite teams.

Pop thinks he is ready for that burden since he is the one calling the shots not "selfish, ballhog" Tony Parker.

In fact, Danny said that the only two who were calling plays until this preseason were Pop AND Parker.

Now, he said Kawhi's slowly starting to...But we already saw that only happened when Parker was on the bench.

YGWHI

Sure, only Parker's haters on ST say that he's freezing Kawhi...

Even Michael Wright who covers Spurs for ESPN liked this tweet.

[YGWHI]

Yea, idk what people expect.

People don't seem to understand...

What people expect is that Parker doesn't take more shots than Kawhi or the same that LMA in a game, because people already understand that if he has high USG% against elite guards/teams, this team is f*cked.

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How is Parker even going to be playable against the Warriors? Now that the Warriors traded in Barnes for Durant, there's no one to hide Parker on. Is he going to go back to guarding Curry? Curry will torch Parker.

[bklynspursfan]

What people expect is that Parker doesn't take more shots than Kawhi or the same that LMA in a game, because people already understand that if he has high USG% against elite guards/teams, this team is f*cked.

Every game is different. And it's his job to play within the flow of the game.. if defense are being played in a way to slow Kawhi or LMA and Parker has open shots, should he not take them? With those guys. Parker will get more open shots... its why having those guys should help other guys get open looks.

It won't be an every night thing. But there may be a handful of games in the season where TP has a high usg and/or more shots. He's not like he's out there just chucking up shots either, like terrible shots. Don't let a box score tell you the story. But if he keeps getting open shots out the post, or teams are giving him that mid range shot, Pop would be pissed if TP didn't try to capitalize

[YGWHI]

Every game is different. And it's his job to play within the flow of the game.. if defense are being played in a way to slow Kawhi or LMA and Parker has open shots, should he not take them? With those guys. Parker will get more open shots... its why having those guys should help other guys get open looks.

It won't be an every night thing. But there may be a handful of games in the season where TP has a high usg and/or more shots. He's not like he's out there just chucking up shots either, like terrible shots. Don't let a box score tell you the story. But if he keeps getting open shots out the post, or teams are giving him that mid range shot, Pop would be pissed if TP didn't try to capitalize

Well, the issue is he will hit those shots only against below-average teams in the regular season.

I'd rather prepare this team for playoffs running with my main scorers in the regular season, instead of giving shots a guy who won't make them in playoffs.

[Clipper Nation]

Can't believe people still fall for this every year from Porker. Before the season begins, it's "I'm evolving to become more unselfish," then the games start and he's right back to the same old hogging and chucking.

[apalisoc_9]

How is Parker even going to be playable against the Warriors? Now that the Warriors traded in Barnes for Durant, there's no one to hide Parker on. Is he going to go back to guarding Curry? Curry will torch Parker.

Yup....Warriors in 4. Only way is if Pop Grows a ball and benches his ass.

[TimDunkem]

I think Parker should be benched but I fear we would have too many ball-handlers on the bench. Kyle might be rendered even more useless than he already is.

[Clipper Nation]

Porker is like an addict who swears he could quit cold turkey at any time. At some point, you have to quit believing him and make him go to rehab (the bench).

[apalisoc_9]

Porker is like an addict who swears he could quit cold turkey at any time. At some point, you have to quit believing him and make him go to rehab (the bench).

[bklynspursfan]

Well, the issue is he will hit those shots only against below-average teams in the regular season.

I'd rather prepare this team for playoffs running with my main scorers in the regular season, instead of giving shots a guy who won't make them in playoffs.

That's just not true... he's done well in the playoffs and against above average teams. People on here just like to emphasize the negative with TP.

There are other guys who struggled in the playoffs ya know, including Kawhi and LMA. Sorry, but you can't blame that on TP.

[Hoops Czar]

How is Parker even going to be playable against the Warriors? Now that the Warriors traded in Barnes for Durant, there's no one to hide Parker on. Is he going to go back to guarding Curry? Curry will torch Parker.

As opposed to Paddy and Forbes?

[TheGreatYacht]

As opposed to Paddy and Forbes?

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As opposed to Paddy and Forbes?

Should work on your reading comprehension. I never said anyone on the bench was a better alternative. The Spurs are ed at the PG spot.