What need to be done salary cap wise for this to actually happen?
If they let the Spurs stretch Duncan's salary in order to sign another player, and then let him sign a new contract the same year? There will be a lot of screaming. And they would put a new rule in place over it.
I can't find anything in print about whether they would even allow it. But it sure looks like a perversion of the stretch provision.
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No. That's not per the CBA. Waived players can be re-signed. Traded players can't.
Good call on Lapro over LJC, though I still can't help but feel that the spurs did him dirty by not bringing him over sooner.
The one year restriction only applies if the player was traded then waived.
I think it would be dicey, but since the Spurs are not saving money, it's not necessarily going to draw anyone's ire.
And what about the stretched contracts?
There is really nothing in the CBA that would block Duncan from coming back?
Definitely not. Whether Silver will allow it is a different matter. But Tim hasn't retired and wasn't traded, so there is nothing im writing that prevents it.
Yeah, I wasn't thinking about buyouts. But Boris is living proof of that possibility.
But could the Spurs get any decent free agent to sign? After all, this week they tried to trade LMA after just one year on the team, and then they screwed LJC out of his rookie contract. That's all supposed to guarantee that no FA's will eve come here again.
One team out West that could inquire about Patty are the Rockets who lost Beverley for a couple of weeks & 40 yr old Pablo is their backup.
Patty fits D'Antoni's style & his struggles on defensive end shouldn't be a problem.
If D-Mo would be willing to partake in a sign-and-trade (his QO is 4.4 mill) then he would have been an excellent backup. Lee/Dedmon are already on the roster so it would be worth the gamble on a 1 year deal even if he ends up toast like Tiago on the Hawks which is probably why no one gave him an offer sheet. I don't think he's too fond of Morey either after he basically traded him to the Pistons (for a protected 1st rd pick aka Patty level player) before it got rescinded. If he isn't in the Rockets future plan then I don't see what they have to lose by trading him for Patty who they could possible re-sign in the offseason thus his Bird Rights should come in handy.
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Yeah, I wasn't thinking about buyouts. But Boris is living proof of that possibility.
But could the Spurs get any decent free agent to sign? After all, this week they tried to trade LMA after just one year on the team, and then they screwed LJC out of his rookie contract. That's all supposed to guarantee that no FA's will eve come here again.
Second part of this is post doesn't mean anything regarding FA's
Surprised about Anthony not making it. But when you put it this way we have for players that can play center and 3-4 that can play the four. Depth chart probably looks like this in PATFOs mind.
Parker 1,Patty 1,Nico 1
Murray 1/2
Forbes 2
Green 2/3, Manu 2/3, Jon 2/3
Leonard 2/3/4, Anderson 2/3/4
Bertans 3/4
Aldridge 4/5, Gasol 4/5, Lee 4/5
Dedmon 5
Pretty versatile roster. Spurs preparing for small ball it looks like and they aren't prepared for to depend on Murray. I like Nico there. Murray will have to earn every minute and not be given minutes.
You know the CBA better than anyone here. Didn't the Spurs have to stretch Duncan's contract to be able to put one of the last guys on the roster? That's stuck in my mind, but I don't know for sure.
If they did, then they have a player that they wouldn't have, without the stretch. I guess they could say that they lost the player (or a player) in order to put Duncan back on the roster. But, yeah, I would think that would be dicey to say the least.
Yeah, I wasn't thinking about buyouts. But Boris is living proof of that possibility.
But could the Spurs get any decent free agent to sign? After all, this week they tried to trade LMA after just one year on the team, and then they screwed LJC out of his rookie contract. That's all supposed to guarantee that no FA's will eve come here again.
I do think people look at how the franchise acts and the Spurs have very little margin for error being in San Antonio - but yeah, nothing they have done yet IMO are a big deal.
But the good news is (talk about silver lining) that SA is going to be damn good and any big in a buyout situation or otherwise will probably find SA to be a good choice when it comes to building a "good rep" and opportunity for minutes. So there's that.
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I thought it was obvious enough not to put it in blue. There were lots of comments about how trading LMA and/or dumping LJC on a rookie contract would make other FA's not want to come here. It was just a little good-natured poke on my part.
This is going to be such a crazy start to the season. Spurs have so many new guys and not all of them are even close to being guaranteed NbA players
Spurs are playing the odds somewhat (hoping they can find a gem) but with that comes the downside too. Dedmon, Forbes, Murray, Lap, Forbes, Bertans. All MAJOR question marks with plenty of upside, but could be a very bumpy road for a while.
For the people that think that I just don't understand. The Spurs are the most respected organizations in the league if not all of sports. Even if they traded LMA it won't look bad on the Spurs IMO...it makes LMA look bad especially with what was reported for his reasons leaving Portland.
It'd be naive for players or potential FA's to judge the Spurs regarding situations like that. If you're not good enough or don't fit because you're a diva etc. that's on the player not the Spurs
Dedmon is a big question mark. Murray still needs to go to D-league. The other 3 players look like they are ready to go!This is going to be such a crazy start to the season. Spurs have so many new guys and not all of them are even close to being guaranteed NbA players
Spurs are playing the odds somewhat (hoping they can find a gem) but with that comes the downside too. Dedmon, Forbes, Murray, Lap, Forbes, Bertans. All MAJOR question marks with plenty of upside, but could be a very bumpy road for a while.
I seriously doubt that Bertans, Laprovittola and Forbes will be rattled when they get in the court.
Theyll be fineThis is going to be such a crazy start to the season. Spurs have so many new guys and not all of them are even close to being guaranteed NbA players
Spurs are playing the odds somewhat (hoping they can find a gem) but with that comes the downside too. Dedmon, Forbes, Murray, Lap, Forbes, Bertans. All MAJOR question marks with plenty of upside, but could be a very bumpy road for a while.
Well, they "may" be fine. But nothing to date makes it seem "likely". But Spurs are pretty good at evaluating talent. Let's see if they are good at developing talent in mass. Tough job for everyone - especially a top 5 team in the league.
We shall see. I'm optimistic. I like the upside and youth of this team (even though we still have a big athleticism deficit).
However, for a contending team, and for guys like Forbes/Lap that will likely have to play minutes with some older guards on the team (TP/Manu) it's a big test. It's exciting.
Spurs will get in trouble if you ask too much of a player. The only player IMO that could be asked to do the most is Bertans but I think he can handle it.
If Spurs are allowed to bring Murray and Forbes along slowly they'll be ok too.
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