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Small ball revolution apparently:
Very young roster except the HoF veteran faces.
Also 4 rookies.
Looking forward to them putting it together myself.
Small ball revolution apparently:
Very young roster except the HoF veteran faces.
Also 4 rookies.
Looking forward to them putting it together myself.
So, who can't shoot the 3? Those guys shouldn't get playing time.Small ball revolution apparently:
Very young roster except the HoF veteran faces.
Also 4 rookies.
Looking forward to them putting it together myself.
Lee, Dedmon and Murray. Yes, those 3 should be in street clothes most of the season.
Spurs keep the international flavorSmall ball revolution apparently:
Very young roster except the HoF veteran faces.
Also 4 rookies.
Looking forward to them putting it together myself.
2 Argentines
1 Frenchman
1 Spaniard
1 Aussie
1 latvian
1 Space Alien
Tony's face as chubby as Patty's w/ the difference that the latest is rocking a 300 beard.Small ball revolution apparently:
Very young roster except the HoF veteran faces.
Also 4 rookies.
Looking forward to them putting it together myself.
How old is dedmon? The forehead wrinkles on that dude is unreal for a mid 20s guy
San Antonio Spurs @spurs 24m24 minutes ago One last practice before we head out to Oakland! Here's what Coach Pop and Manu had to say:
Spurs Sound: Practice 10/23
Coach Pop and Manu chat with the media at our last practice before flying out to Oakland tomorrow.
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Pop says he's going to look at both Anderson and Simmons' consistency for the first 6-9 games bc they will both be playing minutes that are important as opposed to end of the game minutes.
I believe Anderson will play well within the team concept bc he has done tthat b4. (Already averaged 20 minutes from Jan-April last season and played well enough to keep his spot and help the team win a lot of games). I expect him to be good.
Simmons is the wild card in terms of how consistent and solid he can be because that has been his own personal struggle but it looks like he will be getting a good amount of the Danny minutes.
Last edited by SAGirl; 10-23-2016 at 04:04 PM.
Jabari Young Verified account @JabariJYoung 3h3 hours ago Popovich said Jonathon Simmons (calf) should be good to go vs #Warriors on Tues. ... #Spurs
(tweet links messing with me)
Jabari Young @JabariJYoung 2h2 hours ago Popovich said it will take about a month for #Spurs to starting clicking ... Ginobili agreed
Jabari Young @JabariJYoung 3h3 hours ago
Manu said #Spurs want to push the pace more this year, but still can't get into a shootout with #Warriors
Last edited by SAGirl; 10-23-2016 at 04:14 PM.
Jabari Young could predict that the sun is going to rise tomorrow morning, and I'd still have to hear it from a more credible source.
^^^ Well that was just him reporting from media availability after today's practice.
Too bad the tweet links are messing up with me. There are some interviews today in the Spurs website from Pop and Manu about Tuesday's game.
The silver lining if you want to see it...
Going to stay optimistic. I hope it doesn't get scary.
Pop and Manu are just echoing what I was trying to say to Manu4 the other day. Lot's of new guys, lots of young guys and lots of questinmarks.
Especially the bench (IMO). Going to take time and there will be up's and down's especially with Danny out.
I'm not blaming you. The way he handled the LMA deal sort of finished him, for me. If he had just come out and said, "I ed up", at least I could have respected him. I'm sure he'll get some things right.
No no no.. you said me counting on Manu and Parker staying healthy is wrong and I"m too optimistic for thinking they can stay healthy.
Then you basically said Spurs are going to rely on Forbes/ Laprovitolla/ Murray/ Simmons the same way they rely on Patty and Manu. Because my argument was basically that Forbes/Lapro / Murray/ Simmons/ and the worse player from Anderson/Bertans/ Lee compe ion are only going to have roles to fill spot minutes in empty minute opportunities. Unless, Spurs get stricken with a plethra of injuries to the main core -- then Spurs will heavily rely on some of the new rookies & all of Anderson/Bertans/Lee.
There's uncertainty going into every year and chemistry does take time. I never said opposite of that or what Manu and Pop just echoed.
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Warriors have a lot of new guys too. They should struggle as well. Or is this just cover for the Spurs have a lot of guys that are either old or aren't very good. Pop's gonna have to pull some rabbits out of hats in order to put them in positions where they can succeed.
You remember back around '03, the Spurs opened the season with Anthony Carter at the point, Manu in the starting lineup, and no backup PG? Then Anthony Carter got injured, and they started Jason Hart at the point, with Shane Heal as backup? The Spurs started something like 10-10 in October, and then went on a 12 game winning streak to start November.
This season, the Spurs starting 5 was supposed to be identical to last year, but with Gasol in place of Duncan. Considering Duncan's knees last year, that's an upgrade. Danny being out will put a kink in things, and it will take Pop some time to fit players and minutes. But they're still very close to the Spurs of last season, after they get healthy, and the new guys get some court time with each other.
The new guys may disappoint, but either way we won't know who this team is until the end of November, at least.
Pop knows exactly what he has in Simmons and KA but the lack of roster flexibility gives him no choice but to play and encourage them.^^^ Well that was just him reporting from media availability after today's practice.
Too bad the tweet links are messing up with me. There are some interviews today in the Spurs website from Pop and Manu about Tuesday's game.
The silver lining if you want to see it...
Going to stay optimistic. I hope it doesn't get scary.
And I would say, we will get glimpses of things, but it won't be put together for real until ASB and RR when Pop limits the experiments and plays the guys who really need to get it together.
Nah - I said that with the amount of new guys along with the fact you can't rely on TP/Manu to log heavy minutes that SA was going to rely on newer guys in "non garabage time minutes' or whatever you say they play.No no no.. you said me counting on Manu and Parker staying healthy is wrong and I"m too optimistic for thinking they can stay healthy.
Then you basically said Spurs are going to rely on Forbes/ Laprovitolla/ Murray/ Simmons the same way they rely on Patty and Manu. Because my argument was basically that Forbes/Lapro / Murray/ Simmons/ and the worse player from Anderson/Bertans/ Lee compe ion are only going to have roles to fill spot minutes in empty minute opportunities. Unless, Spurs get stricken with a plethra of injuries to the main core -- then Spurs will heavily rely on some of the new rookies & all of Anderson/Bertans/Lee.
There's uncertainty going into every year and chemistry does take time. I never said opposite of that or what Manu and Pop just echoed.
I specifically said numerous times that people will have to prepare themselves for ups and downs especially those expecting SA to have a top 5 bench immediately like they usually do.
I can quote it if you like?
GS has a lot more talent than SA. They should not struggle as much as SA nor do they have as many rookies in the top 10 of their rotation.
Sure but Spurs always rely on their bench. More than most teams. Especially with an older core. The bench is going to take time to mesh.
You're twisting your words DPG. You said you can't rely on TP/Manu because of their health -- I disagreed and explained why. Yesterday, you didn't say you can't rely on TP/Manu because they don't log heavy minutes.
Spurs haven't relied on Manu & Tony to log heavy minutes in years. We all know that. And that's why Patty sees more minutes at back up PG than any back up PG Spurs have ever had. That's also why Simmons/Anderson are important because they help Manu get through the regular season. Manu doesn't have to play both games in back to backs. He doesn't have to stay in the game in the 4th when Spurs are up by 20. Those are the same back-court roles in place from the bench from last year. That doesn't mean the roles slotted for 11-15 are going to have big roles. They'll have roles, sure... but much much smaller roles than guys slotted in at 6-10.
That is basically all I said -- which is the same thing I just said in the post above.
Also, I'm more intrigued than worried about guys 11-15 because they're young and have room to grow into consistent role players for the future. I'm not too worried about them because I know they won't have an impact or a role in the big games against Clippers, GS, Cavs, Celtics, Raptors, Blazers ect. or the playoffs. Yes, their spot minutes will help the team get through the season but those spots minutes will be filled in the least compe ive situations. That's not just garbage time either. That can be a game vs. the Sixers when Pop sits Tony and Manu. Or a game vs. the Lakers or Kings, ect.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 10-23-2016 at 07:24 PM.
I never said I was worried either. Again, I pointed out what should be obvious and what Pop/Manu said - there are a lot of new bodies, many of them young. It will take time to gel especially the bench.
As the core continues to age, the newer guys will be relied upon more than ever (IMO).
I never said youth was bad. Never said I was worried. I pointed out what Pop just said; it's a lot of change and will take time and people should adjust their expectations.
You seem to think Manu/TP will play at the levels they have the past 3-5 years. I don't mainly because I think there can be more injuries due to the fact they are older, played again with their NT and had some injuries the past couple years as well.
I said I understand and agree with going young, that I see the potential and that Im excited.
You are making an argument out of nothing. Just like you saying I "said you were wrong" about Manu/TP. I never said that. I said you may feel more confident about that than I do. That's not saying you are wrong.
But I want to argue. Can we argue?I never said I was worried either. Again, I pointed out what should be obvious and what Pop/Manu said - there are a lot of new bodies, many of them young. It will take time to gel especially the bench.
As the core continues to age, the newer guys will be relied upon more than ever (IMO).
I never said youth was bad. Never said I was worried. I pointed out what Pop just said; it's a lot of change and will take time and people should adjust their expectations.
You seem to think Manu/TP will play at the levels they have the past 3-5 years. I don't mainly because I think there can be more injuries due to the fact they are older, played again with their NT and had some injuries the past couple years as well.
I said I understand and agree with going young, that I see the potential and that Im excited.
You are making an argument out of nothing. Just like you saying I "said you were wrong" about Manu/TP
No but really. Nothing I said implied that I think Manu and Tony will play at levels from 3-5 years ago (not sure where that came from). I just have a different opinion on the present degree of relevance for the guys 11-15 on the roster. I'm more concerned with Dedmon. He has to perform well for the bench (6-10) to have a significant edge. If he falls flat on his face and is the 2016 version of Jackie Butler, then the Spurs will have to assess their assets to see what they can get on the trade market or see who gets bought out.
Remember, I've been saying that 50 wins is success. With the starting 5 healthy, I think the bench will be good enough to get that done, even if they don't come together like previous years.
I expect the same ups and downs you're predicting, but some of that will be from Pop forcing the young guys into games to see what he's got. Mllls, Anderson, Manu, and Simmons already know the system and how to play together. Lee is a pro, and I expect his learning curve to be short. I think Bertans and Lap have enough experience to get there soon enough. That's enough, IMO, to keep the 50 win streak alive. If any of the other guys over-achieve, that's a bonus.
I'm honestly not worried about 50 wins unless Danny or others stay injured for a prolonged time. I think the team will win it will just be Bertans looking great one game, then terrible the next for example. Not that it will cost SA games every time, but finding consistency with young/new guys will be hard to come by early.
Most of the time when you are really young, you aren't expected to play for a contender. The SL is fine and vets- but other than Manu/Patty (and Lee, but new to the system) they all are relative noobs. I think there is a ton of potential and I think wins will be plentiful. Just more of a rollercoaster and those days of really large margins of victory may be over for a little while.
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