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    Millsap ⇔ Aldridge ?
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    A rational person wouldn't move Porzingis....but, James Dolan has a history of overriding his GM to do things that aren't rational but provide a short term spark....So, you're right about NY in theory...but never underestimate the stupidity of Dolan....
    LMa for Porzingingsss

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    Len is a cross b/w Baynes/Miles Plumlee, I'm not sure what people see in him to be regarded as a prospect worth retaining at all costs.
    Unlike them, he has the potential to be a legitimate starter and you don't let assets go for no reason. This is not a situation where financially they're at the point where they have to pick and choose.

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    Unlike them, he has the potential to be a legitimate starter and you don't let assets go for no reason. This is not a situation where financially they're at the point where they have to pick and choose.
    They didn't extend him & he's the same age as Steven Adams. The Suns waived Goodwin, so much for not letting go of assets.

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    They didn't extend him & he's the same age as Steven Adams. The Suns waived Goodwin, so much for not letting go of assets.
    Len hasn't done enough for there to be a reason to extend him a year early. They can let the marketplace dictate his price first.

    Goodwin was clearly waived for chemistry purposes (he wouldn't have been a rotation player and has griped about playing time in the past), doesn't have starter potential and isn't a center.

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    Len hasn't done enough for there to be a reason to extend him a year early. They can let the marketplace dictate his price first.
    I'm pretty sure they will also state he hasn't done enough to warrant the 40 mill contract he will be offered by a dumb GM next summer.

    This is how awful he has been so far in his career & he isn't looking too hot during pre-season: http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/20...derwhelm-again

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    I'm pretty sure they will also state he hasn't done enough to warrant the 40 mill contract he will be offered by a dumb GM next summer.

    This is how awful he has been so far in his career & he isn't looking too hot during pre-season: http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/20...derwhelm-again
    It's all relative though. If they project him as their starting center going forward, then $10M per season is cheap. , even if they project him as a 20 mpg backup, that's still not that bad. Supposedly, the MLE will be $8M per season in the next CBA.

    I'm not saying he's anything special, just that there's no real reason to let him walk and when that's the case teams don't like to set a precedent that they can be poached.

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    Never been a fan of Millsap. I'm never been into undersized PFs.

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    It's all relative though. If they project him as their starting center going forward, then $10M per season is cheap. .
    http://bkref.com/tiny/bkofN

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    Never been a fan of Millsap.
    Meanwhile, you have been a fan of Softridge the chucker who pouted his way out of Portland?

    I'm never been into undersized PFs.
    Draymond Green is shorter & less athletic than Paul Millsap.

    I'm also sure you hated Diaw 2.0....

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    Meanwhile, you have been a fan of Softridge the chucker who pouted his way out of Portland?


    Draymond Green is shorter & less athletic than Paul Millsap.

    I'm also sure you hated Diaw 2.0....
    Jumping to conclusions like you always do. I actually liked Boris he was not undersized but was decent height around 6'8-6'9 and could post up which made him an asset along with his passing game. Millsap is listed at 6'8 but looks more like he's 6'6-6'7. My memories of Millsap go back to his Jazz days when he was getting his ass kicked year in and year out by Odom/Gasol/Bynum in the playoffs. It was clear to me back then you could not win with his undersized body. Second of all I have said over a hundred times Draymond is garbage on this site. Put Draymond on a regular team he's just a role player. So the Millsap-Green comparison is nil to me. Yes I like Lamarcus and I don't care if he pouted his way out of Portland. Who in the their right mind would love to play with a chucker like Lillard. It's been a trend the last few years which is guys don't like to play with chuckers as in the case with nobody wanting to play in LA due to Kobe, Durant running away from Westbrook, etc.

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    If we were to move Aldridge I was hoping for Gobert, Favors, Bobo Diaw and Rodney Hood it works on the ESPN trade machine. We would only be adding 1 million in salary. Utah could have their new Stockton and Malone, with Hayword and LMA. The Spurs would have a defensive stopper at C, and depth and points in the front court.

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    Jumping to conclusions like you always do. I actually liked Boris he was not undersized but was decent height around 6'8-6'9 and could post up which made him an asset along with his passing game. Millsap is listed at 6'8 but looks more like he's 6'6-6'7.
    Millsap used to murder Boris in the post & height alone doesn't mean shyt. Millsap has one of the longest wingspans in the league which is why he's the only player in the league w/ 130 blocks/steals.

    My memories of Millsap go back to his Jazz days when he was getting his ass kicked year in and year out by Odom/Gasol/Bynum in the playoffs. It was clear to me back then you could not win with his undersized body.
    Dumbass, this is 2016 not 2006 & he played w/ Boozer who provided ZERO help defense. In any case, which postup PF is going to abuse him in the paint? Boris?

    Besides, Softridge got murdered by Kanter/Adams so him being 6'11" doesn't mean shyt.

    Second of all I have said over a hundred times Draymond is garbage on this site. Put Draymond on a regular team he's just a role player.
    So the Millsap-Green comparison is nil to me.
    Dumbass, Millsap didn't become an All-Star playing 4-on-5 like Gaymond. He actually can create his own offense:





    Besides, the whole point of trading Millsap is to matchup w/ the contenders. Millsap matches up w/ Draymond as well as any PF & he can switch on PnRs (Curry/Gaymond; CP3/Blake; Kyrie/LeBron) unlike Softridge:



    Yes I like Lamarcus and I don't care if he pouted his way out of Portland. Who in the their right mind would love to play with a chucker like Lillard. It's been a trend the last few years which is guys don't like to play with chuckers as in the case with nobody wanting to play in LA due to Kobe, Durant running away from Westbrook, etc.
    Last I checked the Blazers led by a "chucker" won as many game as the Spurs did this past postseason. The DECADE long trend has ACTUALLY been Softridge disappears against contenders. It's not a coincidence that the Blazers actually advanced further in the postseason after unloading Softridge.

    If anyone is a chucker, it's Softrdige. Millsap on the other hand is one of the top playmakers at this position:

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    Millsap used to murder Boris in the post & height alone doesn't mean shyt. Millsap has one of the longest wingspans in the league which is why he's the only player in the league w/ 130 blocks/steals.



    Dumbass, this is 2016 not 2006 & he played w/ Boozer who provided ZERO help defense. In any case, which postup PF is going to abuse him in the paint? Boris?

    Besides, Softridge got murdered by Kanter/Adams so him being 6'11" doesn't mean shyt.



    Dumbass, Millsap didn't become an All-Star playing 4-on-5 like Gaymond. He actually can create his own offense:





    Besides, the whole point of trading Millsap is to matchup w/ the contenders. Millsap matches up w/ Draymond as well as any PF & he can switch on PnRs (Curry/Gaymond; CP3/Blake; Kyrie/LeBron) unlike Softridge:





    Last I checked the Blazers led by a "chucker" won as many game as the Spurs did this past postseason. The DECADE long trend has ACTUALLY been Softridge disappears against contenders. It's not a coincidence that the Blazers actually advanced further in the postseason after unloading Softridge.

    If anyone is a chucker, it's Softrdige. Millsap on the other hand is one of the top playmakers at this position:

    Wow long response by the village idiot of the board and I'm still not convinced that Millsap isn't garbage. He's a player who will put up big stats when it doesn't matter. Also Lillard is a chucker only a re would be a fan of player who shoots 42 percent career wise. Lillard is in the mold of a Marbury type of player and we have seen how successful those types of players are. TBH Portland's success last year deserves an asterisk because everybody knows that they only got out of the first round due to Griffin and CP3 being injured. I hope your are not dumb enough to believe the Blazers would have beaten a healthy Clippers team. Blazers will be a perennial first round team which will will once in a while get to the second round.

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    Wow long response by the village idiot of the board and I'm still not convinced that Millsap isn't garbage. He's a player who will put up big stats when it doesn't matter.
    Folks used to say that about Iggy when he was in Philly & we all know who's the only Finals MVP on the Duds loaded roster.

    Also Lillard is a chucker only a re would be a fan of player who shoots 42 percent career wise. Lillard is in the mold of a Marbury type of player and we have seen how successful those types of players are. TBH Portland's success last year deserves an asterisk because everybody knows that they only got out of the first round due to Griffin and CP3 being injured. I hope your are not dumb enough to believe the Blazers would have beaten a healthy Clippers team. Blazers will be a perennial first round team which will will once in a while get to the second round.
    Marbury? The perfect example of Marbury was Harden last season when he put up elite stats, alienated his teammates & led his team to .500 record.

    Lillard is one of the most liked players in the league & has been an overachiever his entire career. He's a more mature version of Kyrie.

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    ^ Dwert actually complements Millsap better than Horford.

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    ^ Dwert actually complements Millsap better than Horford.
    I made a thread stating the Hawks should trade Horford for Dwert last season: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...ge=2&p=8768460

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    Holy crap. I had no idea that people thought Millsap wasn't as good as LMA. I totally understand preferring him, due to size, contract and the fact that he's already a Spur. But Millsap along with Kawhi and Green would just be too much to handle, and Pau would get his spots to himself.

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    Holy crap. I had no idea that people thought Millsap wasn't as good as LMA. I totally understand preferring him, due to size, contract and the fact that he's already a Spur. But Millsap along with Kawhi and Green would just be too much to handle, and Pau would get his spots to himself.
    Yeah, Pau would actually have value if he was used on the offensive end otherwise dude is Porker standing-in-the-corner status.

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