Media was so hoping Kap would come back & tear it up while continuing to kneel + stir that pot.Nope.
My problem with the "respect America" crowd is that most of them do nothing to help veterans themselves. You wanna be outraged by this kinda stuff go right ahead, but at least volunteer and put your time and money where your mouth is. Simply standing during the anthem doesn't make you care more about veterans than anyone else.
This is one of the most unpatriotic stances one can take, tbh.
Now that is the way to look at it. Never thought of it that way but she was even position to be in the porno.
Sadly, the US needs another terrorist attack to happen.. everyone will squash their beef and and be 'Muricans again
Because that's the overall goal of existence, to feel solidarity so suggesting the deaths of a lot of people to get there is warranted.
Let the victims be your friends and family. I'll stand with you.
I was kinda hoping you would be one of the victims though
Calling for an act of terrorism is easy, but when you are cast into the event suddenly it's more real and solidarity means less.
That same rhetoric is easily applied, as truthfully as your example, to:
BLM - Why not do some ativism in the black commuities? You're not helping any black lives staging senseless violent protests against the law.
Any SJW who makes statements in social media news threads. SJWs are cowards who are only empowered to say their beliefs with safety in numbers.
To be fair, that's a shoddy fallacy that can be mended to fit any group.
The truth is most of our society is a bunch of people who say but don't do. Look at this greasy horro
Most "patriotic americans" whining voted for Dubya and were for sending our kids to their doom in Iraq and Afghanistan tbqh. This patriotism bull is fun when you dont have to go to the front lines.
Would you put Trump in the meat grinder?
I don't find kneeling for the national anthem disrespectful. Comparatively, disrespect to me would be something like putting up both middle fingers during the anthem and screaming death to the government. Disrespect would be burning the flag during the anthem. Disrespect would be fighting and rioting in the stands during the anthem or shooting up the place... or worse. No, kneeling for the anthem is about as respectful a protest as there can be. This whole thing some people have a problem with consists of people going down to one knee quietly in silent protest to try to bring awareness to and to stir conversation about systematic injustices in the country. And quite frankly, agree with it or not, it's been working. People are talking about it. People do talk about it.
Symbols and songs aren't sacred. History is not sacred. Culture is not sacred. National or even ethnic or religious pride are not sacred. The only things that are sacred are life and faith (if you have it). And these anthem protests are born out of the lack of respect (or at least the perceived lack of respect) for human life, something that is and should be considered sacred as opposed to some "sacred" notion of deifying an old song or a piece of symbolic fabric.
I'll stand for the anthem. I'll remove my hat and put my hand on my heart. That's me though. I don't have a problem with anyone who doesn't. I don't have a problem with anyone "respectfully" protesting the anthem as a sign for social change. I can "respect" their right to do it.
The point isn't the protest. It's that she was voluntarily singing the National ing Anthem while protesting the ing thing. That doesn't make any sense at all. How about refusing to sing it? Could you imagine an athlete protesting by taking a knee but still having a hand over his heart and singing the anthem? Doesn't that send a really ed up, mixed signal that, in reality, these ass magnets have no idea what they are protesting against?
muh flag
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It makes sense to me because I don't view it the same way a lot of people who criticize it do. To me, kneeling for the anthem in protest doesn't mean that person is anti-USA. It doesn't mean they hate the country or even hate the anthem or the flag. To me, it is a social message asking for change. The protest and hate is directed to injustices, not the country, not the police, not the judicial system.
Here's my analogy. A man drinks too much at the bar. He drives drunk and kills someone in the process. He goes to trial and admits he drank too much. He's proven guilty of manslaughter and is sentenced to jail. His mother issues a public statement saying her son should go to jail and pay for what he did. Does that means his mother doesn't love him? Nope. It means she agrees with the punishment for his actions. People kneeling in protest don't hate the government. They don't hate the anthem. They don't hate the flag. They hate the systematic and ins utionalized actions of some that have caused gross widespread injustice. Kneeling for the anthem is like the mother issuing a statement agreeing with the guilty conviction and sentencing of someone she loved.
Kneeling for the anthem doesn't mean you can't respect the anthem. It's a platform for visibility and awareness to an issue some people want to bring more attention to and hopefully change.
How about people who hate Obama? Obama as the president is a symbol of America. If you hate him, do you hate the country? No. You can hate the president but still love your country. I don't see a mixed message at all.
That's a very convenient, albeit wrong interpretation of the "protest". What does the national anthem have to do with injustices, and if it has anything at all to do with it, why sing it?
Bad analogy. Has nothing to do with this case. Instead, imagine the man standing in the street drunk as protesting the sale of liquor.Here's my analogy. A man drinks too much at the bar. He drives drunk and kills someone in the process. He goes to trial and admits he drank too much. He's proven guilty of manslaughter and is sentenced to jail. His mother issues a public statement saying her son should go to jail and pay for what he did. Does that means his mother doesn't love him? Nope. It means she agrees with the punishment for his actions. People kneeling in protest don't hate the government. They don't hate the anthem. They don't hate the flag. They hate the systematic and ins utionalized actions of some that have caused gross widespread injustice. Kneeling for the anthem is like the mother issuing a statement agreeing with the guilty conviction and sentencing of someone she loved.
Kneeling while singing it sends a mixed message. She volunteered, was likely paid, to sing the anthem. If you want to protest, refuse to sing it. Oh but that wouldn't get news coverage.Kneeling for the anthem doesn't mean you can't respect the anthem. It's a platform for visibility and awareness to an issue some people want to bring more attention to and hopefully change.
Either protest it or don't. Singing it while kneeling is ing stupid. All the mental gymnastics aren't going to make it suddenly make any sense.How about people who hate Obama? Obama as the president is a symbol of America. If you hate him, do you hate the country? No. You can hate the president but still love your country. I don't see a mixed message at all.
Visibility to an issue she wants to get attention. Not singing it at all gets no media attention. Protest local police stations and courthouses, it brings attention to the issue on a local level. Protest professional sports, and it brings attention to it to millions upon millions of viewers, gets on ESPN and Fox Sports, and makes it a national topic. It's not about protesting the anthem. It's about bringing an issue to as many people as possible on a national level. And that's exactly what it's done.
Better analogy than yours. People protesting during the anthem are NOT protesting the anthem. To amend your example, it would be like a drunk on the side of the street protesting a specific liquor store because the owners are racists.Bad analogy. Has nothing to do with this case. Instead, imagine the man standing in the street drunk as protesting the sale of liquor.
The porn analogy was bad. This liquor analogy is bad. They are NOT protesting the anthem. They are protesting DURING the anthem. It's hard to believe that you can't realize that and that you think your analogy applies when it obviously does not.
No mixed message. You just have a bad interpretation and/or understanding of what's going on. She sang the anthem because not singing would bring no attention to it. If someone robbed you and you felt wronged and wanted to do something about it, you don't go to your bedroom, lock the door, and complain. How does that effect change?Kneeling while singing it sends a mixed message. She volunteered, was likely paid, to sing the anthem. If you want to protest, refuse to sing it. Oh but that wouldn't get news coverage.
Either protest it or don't. Singing it while kneeling is ing stupid. All the mental gymnastics aren't going to make it suddenly make any sense.
The anthem is not being protested. Let me say it for the umpteenth time. The national anthem is NOT being protested.
There is no mental gymnastics going on here. It's you either not being able to understand what is being protested or blatantly refusing to understand it.
It's ing stupid. Are blacks going to stop shooting each other? Does the 15 year old life of Tyson Gay's daughter matter? No. It's not about that. It's about the knee jerk reaction to any video showing one side of a confrontation where a black person is at a disadvantage to a white person. All other infractions and infringements go unnoticed, end up on the back page of the Chicago news papers as "in another shooting..."
Might as well have a soldier protesting war. Oh wait, we do.
Glad we have a guy in here that knows exactly what's going on in the streets and is in no way privileged. Thanks for that awesome perspective.
At least we didn't elect Cuckstin Trudeau.
Why the accept to sing the anthem in the first place?
Eloquently stated.
Thanks. Though I can barely recall being middle class around here, I still look our for the little guy.
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