Jonathan Simmons reads ST

[SAGirl]

I'm not sure how to explain it to you, but the reason nobody trusts or acknowledges it is because 50 career attempts isn't a big enough sample to decide that it's 'respectable'. When given the green light, like in summer league, he had one really great game and the rest were pretty bad. Looks like he just earned himself some minutes in the rotation, so we're definitely gonna find out in the next few weeks. It certainly couldn't happen to a nicer kid, so I'm sure we all have our fingers crossed.

He was also shooting 16% over preseason and as far as I remember was below 20% in summer league. He had not been hitting the 3 very well at all prior to this game, so if there was ever a game for him to go off, he picked a good one. He did improve his midrange game a lot, that was totally absent last year. I could tell his work on that, but his 3 had been off and may be very streaky.

His energy in transition is the most significant aspect and it is a game changer, without that I do think the bench would have struggled. Their 2 bigs are not scorers or shooters, Lee is decent but he's undersized indeed and playing next to Dedmon makes his rolls difficult, I have seen it b4 be bad. But both are energetic bigs. They killed the GSW in transition and pushing the pace.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

He was also shooting 16% over preseason and as far as I remember was below 20% in summer league. He had not been hitting the 3 very well at all prior to this game, so if there was ever a game for him to go off, he picked a good one. He did improve his midrange game a lot, that was totally absent last year. I could tell his work on that, but his 3 had been off and may be very streaky.

His energy in transition is the most significant aspect and it is a game changer, without that I do think the bench would have struggled. Their 2 bigs are not scorers or shooters, Lee is decent but he's undersized indeed and playing next to Dedmon makes his rolls difficult, I have seen it b4 be bad. But both are energetic bigs. They killed the GSW in transition and pushing the pace.

That's all due to spacing and having to play with all the rooks and new faces added to the Spurs.

The guy nearly shot 50% in the D league 3 years ago from 3 land. People need to realize, playing with newbies shouldn't be a reflection on said player. When Simmons played with the Starters last year, he was more than a solid player. I think Pop was wanting him to be more of the go to guy off the bench and ball handler in this year's Summer League and Preseason. Yeah, he struggled. But it also gave him a load of film to cleanup his game.

Game 1. Looks like all those mistakes and learning from them, from all those MEANINGLESS games, paid off last night. Pop uses these meaningless games to take the sink or swim approach with some players. I rather it be in the Preseason and SL than the regular season, which he has done in the past. Give the young guy some credit. 2nd year in the league and he has impressed me with his improvement every time in games THAT MATTER for the most part.

[BackHome]

You can tell he worked on his handles this summer much better with the basketball and keeping his dribble alive.

[SAGirl]

That's all due to spacing and having to play with all the rooks and new faces added to the Spurs.

The guy nearly shot 50% in the D league 3 years ago from 3 land. People need to realize, playing with newbies shouldn't be a reflection on said player. When Simmons played with the Starters last year, he was more than a solid player. I think Pop was wanting him to be more of the go to guy off the bench and ball handler in this year's Summer League and Preseason. Yeah, he struggled. But it also gave him a load of film to cleanup his game.

Game 1. Looks like all those mistakes and learning from them, from all those MEANINGLESS games, paid off last night. Pop uses these meaningless games to take the sink or swim approach with some players. I rather it be in the Preseason and SL than the regular season, which he has done in the past. Give the young guy some credit. 2nd year in the league and he has impressed me with his improvement every time in games THAT MATTER for the most part.

Other guys shot very well, the preseason 3s were good shots. I don't think he's a proven shooter, but he's shooting with confidence and that is good.

[kobyz]

Lol ... like how you did not defend Jonathon in the "Trade MCW for Simmons" thread a couple of weeks ago? The same thread where you were willing to trade 2 first round draft choices or even Danny Green for Michael Carter-Williams?

I'm also a beliver of MCW, it doesn't say anything about my liking of Simmons and my desire to see him getting more chance with this current roster... You trying too hard, let it go...

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Other guys shot very well, the preseason 3s were good shots. I don't think he's a proven shooter, but he's shooting with confidence and that is good.

I not saying he is a proven shooter, I am just saying he is not as bad as the sample size given this offseason and preseason. In the D League, he was a 50% overall shooter in the D League and even last year shot 50% from the field. I think Pop use him in ways he wasn't comfortable with again this offseason and yes, guys shooting % tend to fall when put in those cir stances. But he is learning from it. Pop obviously feels he is capable of it which is why he pushed him this offseason.

His game was much cleaner last night than even last year. I don't think this is just a one time performance. I think this offseason and the way Pop pushed him has made him a better player. He only took 30 shots in the preseason and 14 last night. Simmons struggled trying to run the offense off the bench, but it made him a better player as he now has film to watch to correct his mistakes.

Pop knows he can shot, Pop knows he can play D, Pop knows he can slash to the basket. He most glaring weakness of Simmons last year was his ball handling skills, turnovers and his play making ability. In all 3 categories he looked much better last night than the end of last year. And as a lifelong fan of the Spurs, that is all I want to see from players like Simmons, constant improvement and learning from their mistakes.

That is why many people consider Pop the best coach of all time b/c how much he can get outta guys that other teams dispatch and never even gave chance to.

[SAGirl]

I not saying he is a proven shooter, I am just saying he is not as bad as the sample size given this offseason and preseason. In the D League, he was a 50% overall shooter in the D League and even last year shot 50% from the field. I think Pop use him in ways he wasn't comfortable with again this offseason and yes, guys shooting % tend to fall when put in those cir stances. But he is learning from it. Pop obviously feels he is capable of it which is why he pushed him this offseason.

His game was much cleaner last night than even last year. I don't think this is just a one time performance. I think this offseason and the way Pop pushed him has made him a better player. He only took 30 shots in the preseason and 14 last night. Simmons struggled trying to run the offense off the bench, but it made him a better player as he now has film to watch to correct his mistakes.

Pop knows he can shot, Pop knows he can play D, Pop knows he can slash to the basket. He most glaring weakness of Simmons last year was his ball handling skills, turnovers and his play making ability. In all 3 categories he looked much better last night than the end of last year. And as a lifelong fan of the Spurs, that is all I want to see from players like Simmons, constant improvement and learning from their mistakes.

That is why many people consider Pop the best coach of all time b/c how much he can get outta guys that other teams dispatch and never even gave chance to.

Ehhh don't get carried by that % the 50 includes a lot of shots (a lot, maybe over half of those shots were at the rim). It's fine bc he's very effective at the rim, but that wasn't exactly shooting is the point. Can't look up the specifics but I have seen them b4, he barely took jumpshots at all, and did take the 3 in the dleague but he was around 39% on about 2 attempts per game his most recent season there... can't recall the first one, but it was lower. It does show improvement with coaching, but he's been streaky. If I remember past ASB he was shooting just 30% on the 3. It doesn't matter so long as he's shooting with confidence though, his game is not strictly the 3 ball. I am just glad he made shots here, since really he hadn't been making them at all for moths. (30% after ASB, less than 20% over SL, 16% in preseason is hardly encouraging). He may just be regressing to a better shooting %. He reworked his shot and that takes time to hold so even though he had been shooting poorly I had not assumed he wouldn't bounce back.

[Solid D]

I'm also a beliver of MCW, it doesn't say anything about my liking of Simmons and my desire to see him getting more chance with this current roster... You trying too hard, let it go...

, oh, so now you're being serious.

[kobyz]

, oh, so now you're being serious.

You talking bs, Just admitt you failed and move on...

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

. He may just be regressing to a better shooting %. He reworked his shot and that takes time to hold so even though he had been shooting poorly I had not assumed he wouldn't bounce back.

People said the same w/ Parker. Look how that turned out. Pop was wanting to add elements to his game this offseason which is why he struggled. I agree with you that he was horrible and needed to improve. I notice when Pop is making changes to a player's game and he demand Simmons to get out of his comfort zone this offseason. Players ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE in doing so, which I for one wasn't worried about Simmons. Like you said, it's a learning curve.

But Simmons has impressed me every time Pop challenges him, he rises to the occasion. He did so last year. Remember how bad he was in the preseason last year and the was much better in the regular season. I for one am patient with players while they developed their games. Some players flourish and some players break. Simmons has proven to be a player that rise to the challenge, which is why Pop has stated numerous times. I think Pop sums up Simmons the best. The guy is still learning the game and as well as improving on his own.

DALLAS, TX — Ask most NBA fans who the top head coach in the Association is and most will say without equivocation that it’s San Antonio Spurs boss Gregg Popovich.
And considering that “Pop,” currently the longest-tenured coach with his current team, being in the Alamo City since 1996, has won five NBA championships and been the league’s Coach of the Year three times, calling him the top head coach is nothing short of a no-brainer.
So it makes sense that when Popovich and the rest of the Spurs brass think highly of a player who’s somewhat of an unknown, guys like Gary Neal and Tiago Splitter immediately come to mind, people take notice.
After all, winning five NBA les gives one instant credibility on a lot of fronts.
San Antonio’s latest success story could very well be 6-foot-6 Jonathon Simmons, a native Texan who took a winding route to reach the Spurs. Now that he’s here, he’s already made quite the impression on his new coach.
“He’s pretty fearless,” Popovich said of Simmons prior to a win in Dallas last week. “He just goes and plays. It’s kind of like Manu [Ginobili]. He just dives into the game and he competes. He’s really got great athletic skills and he’s learning the game. Quick learner, good worker, he’s got a chance to be a longtime player in the league if he pays attention and sticks to it.”

[Solid D]

You talking bs, Just admitt you failed and move on...

[Chinook]

You can never silence critics with one game. Scrubs go off all the time. As Spurs fans, we know all about that. If it's 81 games of replacement-level play after this, then it almost doesn't matter. Has to keep getting after, especially when Green comes back and he's in a more permanent role. ST has a habit of jumping on every little change so that posters can be the first to claim victory. It's a long season, folks, and hopefully a long post-season as well.

[SAGirl]

People said the same w/ Parker. Look how that turned out. Pop was wanting to add elements to his game this offseason which is why he struggled. I agree with you that he was horrible and needed to improve. I notice when Pop is making changes to a player's game and he demand Simmons to get out of his comfort zone this offseason. Players ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE in doing so, which I for one wasn't worried about Simmons. Like you said, it's a learning curve.

But Simmons has impressed me every time Pop challenges him, he rises to the occasion. He did so last year. Remember how bad he was in the preseason last year and the was much better in the regular season. I for one am patient with players while they developed their games. Some players flourish and some players break. Simmons has proven to be a player that rise to the challenge, which is why Pop has stated numerous times. I think Pop sums up Simmons the best. The guy is still learning the game and as well as improving on his own.

DALLAS, TX — Ask most NBA fans who the top head coach in the Association is and most will say without equivocation that it’s San Antonio Spurs boss Gregg Popovich.
And considering that “Pop,” currently the longest-tenured coach with his current team, being in the Alamo City since 1996, has won five NBA championships and been the league’s Coach of the Year three times, calling him the top head coach is nothing short of a no-brainer.
So it makes sense that when Popovich and the rest of the Spurs brass think highly of a player who’s somewhat of an unknown, guys like Gary Neal and Tiago Splitter immediately come to mind, people take notice.
After all, winning five NBA les gives one instant credibility on a lot of fronts.
San Antonio’s latest success story could very well be 6-foot-6 Jonathon Simmons, a native Texan who took a winding route to reach the Spurs. Now that he’s here, he’s already made quite the impression on his new coach.
“He’s pretty fearless,” Popovich said of Simmons prior to a win in Dallas last week. “He just goes and plays. It’s kind of like Manu [Ginobili]. He just dives into the game and he competes. He’s really got great athletic skills and he’s learning the game. Quick learner, good worker, he’s got a chance to be a longtime player in the league if he pays attention and sticks to it.”

He's been very up and down, but I am not going to steal his thunder from this impressive showing TBH. So let's hope for the best.

[Solid D]

It's a fun little thread for 1/82nd of the regular season.

[Spurtacular]

No other explanation tbh

I doubt he reads (period), tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

I doubt he reads (period), tbh.

Keep it 100, my ..did you jerk off every time David Lee had a positive play, last night?

[Spurtacular]

Keep it 100, my ..did you jerk off every time David Lee had a positive play, last night?

Go ahead and give me a dossier of times I've gushed about Lee. Throw in Pau for that matter. Oh sh**. You'll find I've probably been pessimistic at best. Oh f*ck, there's goes all your racist claims BS; you ain't nothing but a two bit troll.

[ SLAP]

[apalisoc_9]

Can you imagine the spurs full of black men and possibly a Muslim player? Jimmertacular would committ suicide..

I bet he wished defeat to the 05 spurs with Nazr mohammad and Mulitple black men..playing against the Whites like Nash and Dirk.

We know he only started cheering for the spurs cause Jimmer got a pity contract...

[BackHome]

How the we get from Spurs to race......You all need to get a room and work on your bro romances.

[Spurtacular]

How the we get from Spurs to race......You all need to get a room and work on your bro romances.

They be trollin' Ain't nothin' new under the sun, bro.

BTW, "Bro romances" f***ing no to that sh**

[Spurtacular]

Can you imagine the spurs full of black men and possibly a Muslim player? Jimmertacular would committ suicide..

I bet he wished defeat to the 05 spurs with Nazr mohammad and Mulitple black men..playing against the Whites like Nash and Dirk.

We know he only started cheering for the spurs cause Jimmer got a pity contract...

Some who has me on ignore be tryin' to talk!

For the record, I was full on board with the Spurs in 05; rooted for them over the Mavs. , I even rooted for the Heat to beat the Mavs in 06. Though, I retroactively slap myself for that.

[DAF86]

I like him better than Anderson as the backup SF, tbh.

Mills, Manu, Simmons, Bertans, Dedmon.

That's my second unit lineup.

[TheDoctor]

You guys need to hold your horses on JSimms. He's a scrub no matter what who had the game of his life MJ style. Sorry that's the reality. I mean, draining off-balanced-guarded-buzzer-beater-treys? Last night he was unbelievable yes but it was the 1st game of the season and nobody saw him coming/weren't prepared. Sure thing is, he'll be the same old TO machine sooner or later. He can make me eat all the crow he wants tho

[MaNu4Tres]

You guys need to hold your horses on JSimms. He's a scrub no matter what who had the game of his life MJ style. Sorry that's the reality. I mean, draining off-balanced-guarded-buzzer-beater-treys? Last night he was unbelievable yes but it was the 1st game of the season and nobody saw him coming/weren't prepared. Sure thing is, he'll be the same old TO machine sooner or later. He can make me eat all the crow he wants tho

Whats encouraging is last year his only above average skill was to slash here and there.

Last night he attempted 5 threes. Last year he attempted .9 threes a game.

Word is, he worked all summer long with Chip -- 6 hours a day. If he can be efficient from three with the volume, he's going to be an incredible player off the bench this year.

[TheDoctor]

Whats encouraging is last year his only above average skill was to slash here and there.

Last night he attempted 5 threes. Last year he attempted .9 threes a game.

Word is, he worked all summer long with Chip -- 6 hours a day. If he can be efficient from three with the volume, he's going to be an incredible player off the bench this year.

I don't think he can maintain that efficiency level tbh. But, If he can do at least half of that on a nightly basis, with Danny already on the team, watch-out NBA.