"There are very good conservative principles"
... which are?
lib op
https://www.bustle.com/articles/9487...an-that-doesnt
Seems about right. Women are people. Not hard to grasp.
No.
What about someone who actively brags about committing war crimes as a matter of policy once elected?
Specifically how?
"surveys have shown" that the anger dominating the revolt of the old, white Repug base is financial despair, not Christian, not racism.
That those Repug base revolutionaries think conman, grifter, fraud Trash is gonna help them financially is just more evidence PROVING they are stupid, ignorant, low-education, low-wage.
The astonishing, unique-among-industrial-nations, DECLINE in longevity of the lower-middle class WHITES and on down is not due to illegal immigrants, pro-birth obsession, or hate for Dems. It's due to economic hopelessness, future-less.
I'm all ears if you have any evidence to the contrary.
Taking care of yourself without having to rely on others is rewarding.
Two parents taking care of kids while teaching them that hard work and self determination can pay off in producing an individual who feels some sort of self worth through accomplishment (something an individual deems worthy).
Would you like me to continue? I am not saying these are exclusive to conservatives, I am saying they are stressed more often. Then I can also give you what I believe are liberal tenets that are also very agreeable to most Judeo-Christian teachings and to most people. Judeo-Christian ideas are clearly the driving force behind most of our laws. Rights of the individual, the belief in striving for human dignity, working together for the good of the whole,... on and on.
Those aren't specifically conservative, owned by conservatives.
keep trying ...
Repug base... You call blue collar workers in industrial states that used to be democrats, conservatives? If you don't believe that Trump is a possible symptom of financial inequality you have your head up your ass.
You want to read this again without altering my post?
so give us conservatives principles that aren't different in degree from progressives,
but something diametrically different from progressives.
come one, we know you can do it.
None of the basics differ from conservatives to liberals who have some degree of humanity. It's what is emphasized. You are just like Trumpites in that you thrive on divisiveness.
Take a very specific topic, abortion.
I perfectly understand the wish for government NOT to intervene in order to force a woman to have, or to abort, a baby (China example). But your inability to understand that there really are people who exist who truly believe aborting a perfectly normal fetus is a source of great despair happens to be perfectly understandable to me. You believe it's mostly the religious Right's attempt to punish women because they have had sex only intending on pleasure. So, make them have that baby as a lesson that actions have consequences. This evil conservative line makes it easy. Some conservatives make this easy for you. So This is your line for ALL of them. I believe there really are people who see this as a human life. I get this. You don't. You can't. You don't understand the difficulties when rationalizing (that every human being performs) becomes a source of sincerely great sadness and dread when the life of a pregnant mother is in danger or a child born with severe abnormalities suffers and dies. This actually really hurts some people. It's depressing for them.
You want black and white, just like the conservatives you deride. You want payback. You have trouble fathoming the very real human failings that cause us ALL to rationalize and that this rationalization creates some logical fallacy where one feels like a hypocrite. Yes, some seem much more blatant than others, but WE ALL suc b. And if we have not realized this, we are not thinking and lying to ourselves.
- pgardn crashes down from abnormally tall soap box
/thread
"It's what is emphasized."
bull , there are REAL differences, waiting for you say what they are
"You are just like Trumpites in that you thrive on divisiveness."
bull . I push back on the coming from rightwingnuts, bubbas, kickers, conservatives, Repugs, libertarians.
I perfectly understand the wish for government NOT to intervene in order to force a woman to have, or to abort, a baby (China example). But your inability to understand that there really are people who exist who truly believe aborting a perfectly normal fetus is a source of great despair happens to be perfectly understandable to me.
"You believe it's mostly the religious Right's attempt to punish women because they have had sex only intending on pleasure."
bull , goddam you're really of your rails
So, make them have that baby as a lesson that actions have consequences. This evil conservative line makes it easy. Some conservatives make this easy for you. So This is your line for ALL of them. I believe there really are people who see this as a human life. I get this. You don't. You can't.
You Lie. But, as conservatives love to beat (only) poor people with, the law is the law, and right to abortion is SETTLED Law of the Land.
"You don't understand the difficulties when rationalizing (that every human being performs) becomes a source of sincerely great sadness and dread when the life of a pregnant mother is in danger or a child born with severe abnormalities suffers and dies. This actually really hurts some people. It's depressing for them."
WTF are you talking about? what does your bull have to do with differences between conservatives and progressives?
"You want black and white, just like the conservatives you deride."
bull . I want live and let live, in all its diversity, with no conservatives or Christian Taliban forcing THEIR morals, ethics into law, regs, and onto everybody else.
"You want payback."
bull and you're off the rails
"You have trouble"
bull , you have such a muddled brain.
You're digressive soapbox bull has nothing to with the differences between conservatives and progressives.
Crofl
Wingnuts like yourself are convinced they have some sort of insight or moral superiority that is incomprehensible to their opposition.
You give me ONE consevative view that you respect but disagree with.
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Wtf did I just read
Does anyone else hear bouton's posts in Golum's voice, or is that just me?
(Caliendo does Madden voice) "And now you.. you got Philo wondering.. When you got Philo wondering about you wondering about Fuzzy masturbating, hey... that's a lot of wondering! Then BOOM, then you got something... "
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aka Moore/Coulter syndrome
not bad
give me a few names of conservatives you think are worthy of respect. Conservatism, libertarianism, both fraudulent, sociopathic ideologies.
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