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Kyle is Diaw 1.0 status, Lee is Blair 2.0
Just watched it..didn't think he was bad, but it was a typical Anderson, unaggressive RS game..
I hope we get to see him play PF off the bench over Lee, at some point..
Kyle is Diaw 1.0 status, Lee is Blair 2.0
He only played 12.9 MPG in the playoffs, so per-game stats aren't really fair. His per-36 stats were essential triple that - 6.4 points, 6.7 boards, 1.7 steals, 2 AST. Not star caliber, but guys coming off the bench for 12 minutes aren't expected to be stars. The thing is, if Pop has someone better, he'll play them. He will experiment along the way, but by the ASB we'll know.
The Spurs' coaches have seen everyone on the roster, and there's a reason they just extended Kyle. Just like there was a reason they kept Simmons on the roster, when everyone was so sure he was gone. I don't like the way Pop has tried to use Anderson. But I'm pretty sure that if Pop were to quit, they wouldn't hire me to replace him. It will be interesting to see if Kyle steps up to deserve their confidence in him.
minus the sticky fingers and addiction to the fatboy pills at whataburger.
His best asset is his court vision/ball distribution. But he doesn't do this at a high enough level to warrant heavy starter-esque minutes. I think it will be imperative for him to develop an above average (not exceptional) post game, in addition to him continuing to fine-tune his perimeter jumper which has improved. As he will never be an above average perimeter player despite his ball handling skillset. Not to mention his perimeter defensive deficiencies. This is very similar to older large point guards who posted up a lot, except he cannot play the PG position in this era. He's locked into the 3/4 spot the vast majority of the time. He fits into this team in terms of basketball I.Q, and culture. But obviously there is still work that needs to be done. And he will never be able to fix his perimeter defensive deficiencies. Granted this is just one game as his ability has improved steadily to some extent. This is more of a long term prognostication in terms of player development.
The role we put him on just didn't make sense for the kind of player he is. He will be at his best coming off the bench and being one of the main playmakers there, but relegating him to stand in the corners and shoot just won't work. Also his advantages (height and lankiness) don't work as well against someone like Durant. People need to tame their expectations of him, he will probably never be a great NBA starter but there's real potential for him off the bench or as a small ball 4.
He's also a bit too passive for my liking, even more so than Boris which is saying something.
Anderson doesn't have the same amount of hunger in his game. Simmons would be a good backup for Danny and maybe even finish games along side KL and LMA.
Simms was doing some prime MJ last night tbh. Just unbelievable.
People acting like he is a high first round pick.lol The dude is OK for the 14th or 15th slot but I never see him as a starter but as a decent role player he can be.
I think there is hope for him, but it's more a mindset thing. He is way, way to casual. There was one play where he was dribbling the ball like he was in an empty gym, a GS player swiped at it and all Kyle did was complain to the ref. He is just way, way to casual. He also looks scared to fail hence why he won't shoot. I've seen playmaking skills from him, but it's never really when the game matters and I just think the guy looks scared to make a mistake. This makes me dislike him being on the court despite "point forwards" being my favourite type of player.
He defended a Livingston post up perfectly, that's probably the best thing he did all game.
I don't think we'll ever know how good or bad Kyle is until Manu retires.
Basically.
Right now he's a reliable player and a player with enough size to mount some decent defense. Like a premium quality role player. That may just be all the Spurs need!
So I suggest everyone cut his some slack!
We already know. He is too slow for the NBA to play the two or three. He is too passive to play the four.
There's no mystery here. Best thing he can do for this team is chew some regular season minutes up. Problem is he appears to be Pop's new a Bonner, so he will continue to get inexplicable run in bad matchups and get torched. Only hope is his plus minus reflects that accurately, it's the only thing that Pop would figure out.
ElNono
or Pop,tbh.
Last edited by spursistan; 10-27-2016 at 04:14 PM.
There are teams out there that he matches up well against. The Warriors are not that team.
Until he can figure out how to match up against every team, he shouldn't start, imo
I just can't believe how slow Kyle is. The reason he's not an offensive threat is because he knows he can never get a shot off. It would get blocked every time. He's absolutely useless offensively and defensively he's just as much of a liability. He doesn't belong anywhere near the perimeter.
He has a ton of 'skill' however -- in that he's nearly as crafty as Diaw and has great size and length. But his slowness completely negates those things. And somehow Pop doesn't seem to get that. But he's clearly one of Pop's 'favorites'. I mean I questioned why Bonner was on the team for like 8 years. I think certain guys 'potential' just makes coaches keep hanging on to them. Kyle is one of those guys.
If kyle was worth he'd of showed it by now. He's not an nba caliber player. He just needs to head overseas.
He had some success vs. Sacramento last year IIRC..should have a bounce-back game tonight..
Good point.
I am sure Pop knows what he is better than anybody and what he can do bc they have seen him in practices, in other contexts and they have picked up their option as they were making decisions on all the training camp cuts.
The Spurs have shown recently by waiving Daye and Ray Mac midseason, unfortunately cutting Butler, not signing Bonner this season, waiving LJC a raw first round pick with 2 seasons guaranteed, a very unusual move, waiving Jimmer on a guaranteed deal, etc. that this current Spurs are not in the habit of picking up options or contracts on guys with no potential or reason to be on the team. Kyle competed this offseason for his option to be picked up, it was a "contract year" in that sense as well. He was as much competing not for a spot but for his future, as others in the team and they wouldn't have picked up his contract option if he wasn't pulling his weight and showing development.
He's playing a role here that is not best suited to his talents and what he does best, but he can do what they are asking of him better than he did in that game. For now, that is all I want to see. In terms of his future, that is Pop and it's not for him while he is starting games with the team's stars to show off. But he can play better than he did.
Playing with the starters while they look to get their main guys going I am not sure what he can do, but honestly Pop needs to call a play to get him an open shot early in the game, it doesn't help anybody if he doesn't catch a rhythm. Here he is, as if ppl doubted he's a basketball player.
As much as I have been in Kyle's corner, I am becoming more and more puzzled by Kyle and his situation. With a very young prospect, it seems like PATFO would absolutely play him in a role that is best suited to his talents. Yet Pop seems to do almost the opposite, playing him all over the place. That doesn't seem like the best way to develop a prospect - especially a very young one. I don't think Boris Diaw was always a Swiss Army knife, but he became one as a wily veteran. If Pop is expecting Kyle to be something similar, it seems like he is throwing a lot at Kyle all at once, when a "layering" approach might be more optimal. I don't have any idea what the ultimate role is that Pop has in mind for Kyle. That is real fodder for his detractors and a head-scratcher for his supporters. But the important question is: How confusing is it for Kyle, himself? If anything will undermine a player's aggression it is confusion. If he had a definite, well-defined role, Kyle might just be more aggressive. He must show Pop something in practice on a more consistent basis than the flashes his fans glimpse. But what is it? What role is he in? Maybe Kyle will just become a fully actualized player "overnight" once Manu retires. It is real hard to have any idea what to expect, though, as he enters his 3rd season. That fact alone makes the guy unique - or an enigma.
I am sure Pop knows what he is better than anybody and what he can do bc they have seen him in practices, in other contexts and they have picked up their option as they were making decisions on all the training camp cuts.
The Spurs have shown recently by waiving Daye and Ray Mac midseason, unfortunately cutting Butler, not signing Bonner this season, waiving LJC a raw first round pick with 2 seasons guaranteed, a very unusual move, waiving Jimmer on a guaranteed deal, etc. that this current Spurs are not in the habit of picking up options or contracts on guys with no potential or reason to be on the team. Kyle competed this offseason for his option to be picked up, it was a "contract year" in that sense as well. He was as much competing not for a spot but for his future, as others in the team and they wouldn't have picked up his contract option if he wasn't pulling his weight and showing development.
He's playing a role here that is not best suited to his talents and what he does best, but he can do what they are asking of him better than he did in that game. For now, that is all I want to see. In terms of his future, that is Pop and it's not for him while he is starting games with the team's stars to show off. But he can play better than he did.
Last edited by sasaint; 10-27-2016 at 07:01 PM.
Kyle Anderson is productive if you put him on the court with the right lineup. Last season when Pop would have him with Diaw and West, he was horrible. This season he's horrible with Parker and Gasol. He has to be with the right lineups to cover for his lack to speed
The guy needs the ball in his hands to be successful and he just simply isn't good enough to be that kind of player on this team. Guy should just sit in the corner and occasionally create if all other options fail and he has a smaller player on him. Otherwise, he's garbage.
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