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    Re read, i was not talking about Hillary.
    Anyway i see no point in discussing about USA political situation as i will not participate.
    I think you must vote as you feel, no candidate is ideal, they normally arent, so you should just vote what represents you the best.
    As said i hold nothing against USA Democratic system as it is Historically proven that you have had the best management over the last century of all american countrys.
    I can only hope Argentina had as good politicians as USA had. We werenīt as lucky.
    You still believe the Kirchner family is innocent?

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    You still believe the Kirchner family is innocent?
    I think that given that the actual goverment, the media, and most of the other political and economic powers clearly believe she is guilty they should have no problem proving it. And i believe, if it were my case, or your case, you would also want to be judged in court, and not out of it.

    As of now i believe she, as you and me and everyone else, is innocent until proven guilty.

    I would have my "doubts" about her culpability if the trial had been taken place with her as a president, because of the ammount of pressure she would be able to use against the judges, but considering that those "powers" are now against her, and that she has no control over the goverment or the media, then justice should be able to come to a conclussion by itīs own and determine if she is guilty or not.

    So answering your question, i believe she might be guilty, but as itīs not proven, and she has "no friends" within the goverment, the media, or the economic powerhouses, i choose to wait until the trial ends before labeling anyone.

    Itīs the least, we citizens shoudl do, if we want to live in a free country, to give Justice time.

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    sports and politics have always mixed. nothing new

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    At my age the blue pill is absolutely the good one.

    Damn, but there are some people here that I really like!


    sports and politics have always mixed. nothing new

    "Bread and circus", my friend. Thanks for the reminder.

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    I think that given that the actual goverment, the media, and most of the other political and economic powers clearly believe she is guilty they should have no problem proving it. And i believe, if it were my case, or your case, you would also want to be judged in court, and not out of it.

    As of now i believe she, as you and me and everyone else, is innocent until proven guilty.

    I would have my "doubts" about her culpability if the trial had been taken place with her as a president, because of the ammount of pressure she would be able to use against the judges, but considering that those "powers" are now against her, and that she has no control over the goverment or the media, then justice should be able to come to a conclussion by itīs own and determine if she is guilty or not.

    So answering your question, i believe she might be guilty, but as itīs not proven, and she has "no friends" within the goverment, the media, or the economic powerhouses, i choose to wait until the trial ends before labeling anyone.

    Itīs the least, we citizens shoudl do, if we want to live in a free country, to give Justice time.


    that give Justice Time.

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    that give Justice Time.
    I don`t know if you have ever seen Pablo Escobar, because that guy is Miguel Angel Zuvic, the father of the famous Marina Zuvic a quite known Politician.

    You can inform yourself if you want in a very anti-kirchnerist media called Seprin.

    http://seprin.info/2014/11/17/operacion-escobar-trucho/

    That is a portal that has always be very antagonist of both Kirchnerīs goverments, yet they made a piece on the "operation fake escobar". Which is the picture you just posted.

    Now if inventing evidence is what you call justice, then yes... it.

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    I don`t know if you have ever seen Pablo Escobar, because that guy is Miguel Angel Zuvic, the father of the famous Marina Zuvic a quite known Politician.

    You can inform yourself if you want in a very anti-kirchnerist media called Seprin.

    http://seprin.info/2014/11/17/operacion-escobar-trucho/

    That is a portal that has always be very antagonist of both Kirchnerīs goverments, yet they made a piece on the "operation fake escobar". Which is the picture you just posted.

    Now if inventing evidence is what you call justice, then yes... it.


    I guess this is crap too, when he was running from the militia... right?

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    I guess this is crap too, when he was running from the militia... right?
    Really you seem 15 years old. You thought the other photo was also real?
    Please inform yourself.

    Donīt make me have to defend people that i donīt really like to defend just because you flood a forum with lies and missinformation.

    In todays internet you can find whatever information you want, for example, about that photo you just posyed.

    Hereīs the real one from the newspaper that originally posted it.



    I donīt know if you care about Argentina, or Argentinaīs History, but that picture belongs to a Multipartidaria meeting.

    If you want to know what Multipartidaria was, in resume it was a democratic front whith participants from every political party in Argentina during the lastest defacto goverment, that pushed for the Goverment to call on elections.

    You can read about it here: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipartidaria

    I would ask you if you please want to continue posting whatever picture you think is relevant, to not quote me anymore so i donīt feel the obligation to read and answer.

    I really hope this makes you feel the need to read into our countryīs history. Is very rich and always a good learning point.

    Enjoy the game! Itīs back!

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    Really you seem 15 years old. You thought the other photo was also real?
    Please inform yourself.

    Donīt make me have to defend people that i donīt really like to defend just because you flood a forum with lies and missinformation.

    In todays internet you can find whatever information you want, for example, about that photo you just posyed.

    Hereīs the real one from the newspaper that originally posted it.



    I donīt know if you care about Argentina, or Argentinaīs History, but that picture belongs to a Multipartidaria meeting.

    If you want to know what Multipartidaria was, in resume it was a democratic front whith participants from every political party in Argentina during the lastest defacto goverment, that pushed for the Goverment to call on elections.

    You can read about it here: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipartidaria

    I would ask you if you please want to continue posting whatever picture you think is relevant, to not quote me anymore so i donīt feel the obligation to read and answer.

    I really hope this makes you feel the need to read into our countryīs history. Is very rich and always a good learning point.

    Enjoy the game! Itīs back!
    Lol you are really a choripanero, here is one more for you tell me its an aeroplane or a ferrari like you know it really was...

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    Lol you are really a choripanero, here is one more for you tell me its an aeroplane or a ferrari like you know it really was...
    Iīm what? Also didnīt understand the ferrari joke
    Itīs funny that you are ignorant about the content of your posts yet you are the one calling me names.
    I donīt answer insults.

    Apologise and we can continue speaking.

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    Iīm what? Also didnīt understand the ferrari joke
    Itīs funny that you are ignorant about the content of your posts yet you are the one calling me names.
    I donīt answer insults.

    Apologise and we can continue speaking.
    Someone who says he has doubts about the Kirchners after more than 12 years of government is not a bright person, the Escobar pic is fake, but the other is legit, Guerrero was a milico commander during our dictatorship, Nestuerto said numerous times he had to hide from them because he was a montonero but you had that stupid Multipartidaria savers of the world story which seems stronger than what he and she said from their own mouths.
    Your Ļlet the justice decideĻ is either coming from a 6 year old kid or a Ļzurdito choripaneroĻ, I say you are a kid...

    As of now i believe she, as you and me and everyone else, is innocent until proven guilty.

    That says everything about you, look kid here is with Alain Delon



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    Someone who says he has doubts about the Kirchners after more than 12 years of government is not a bright person, the Escobar pic is fake, but the other is legit, Guerrero was a milico commander during our dictatorship, Nestuerto said numerous times he had to hide from them because he was a montonero but you had that stupid Multipartidaria savers of the world story which seems stronger than what he and she said from their own mouths.
    Your Ļlet the justice decideĻ is either coming from a 6 year old kid or a Ļzurdito choripaneroĻ, I say you are a kid...

    As of now i believe she, as you and me and everyone else, is innocent until proven guilty.

    That says everything about you, look kid here is with Alain Delon


    Apologise and we can continue speaking.

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    Apologise and we can continue speaking.
    You are the one who should apologise for saying something so stupid like ĻAs of now i believe she, as you and me and everyone else, is innocent until proven guiltyĻ
    Where have you been for the last 13 years, under a rock?

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    Lol, people trying to make a point showing a photo...

    Looks like Castro and Obama has something in their hands:



    Hillary and Thrump too:



    Cristina Kirchner and Macri too:



    Sorry, but that is the most ridicoulus way to argue.

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    How to make a bad candidate like Hillary Clinton look good? just confront her with a Duck with a Wig

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    You are the one who should apologise for saying something so stupid like ĻAs of now i believe she, as you and me and everyone else, is innocent until proven guiltyĻ
    Where have you been for the last 13 years, under a rock?
    Apologise and we can continue speaking.
    You are en led to your opinion and so i am to mine.
    Untill you do apologise i wont answer anything else because i never insulted you.

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    Apologise and we can continue speaking.
    You are en led to your opinion and so i am to mine.
    Untill you do apologise i wont answer anything else because i never insulted you.
    I dont give a about you, why should I apologise when Im not the dumb asshole here?
    People who gives human rights to dictators deserve to die.

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    Lol, people trying to make a point showing a photo...

    Looks like Castro and Obama has something in their hands:



    Hillary and Thrump too:



    Cristina Kirchner and Macri too:



    Sorry, but that is the most ridicoulus way to argue.
    Because you dont have idea about how things are here Chasquito, Trump Obama and even Vagillary are human beings after all but Cristina and other dictators are 110% corrupt is not just the picture, is what kind of dirty business they did together too and because you are not from here you dont understand the real meaning of those pics and there is nothing I can do about that.

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    Chasky no gastes, es un nene que lo unico que hace es insultar y no da un argumento.

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    El argumento pelotudo es que nunca nadie en 70 aņos fue preso por corrupcion y vos queres que en un pais Top 3 en corrupcion mundial con ĻdemocraciaĻ la justicia lo solucione por arte de magia y sea JUSTA.

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