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Laying low on the standings? Playoff switch TBH
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Laying low on the standings? Playoff switch TBH
Sure they can, but their real strength is their post games. Surrounding them with shooters is pretty enticing. It also allows Kawhi to polish his point forward skills.
If I had to choose one, I'd choose closing. Why not both though?
Damn the Parker fans aren't even gonna come in here and try to defend their boy. That's when you know he's done
This discussion is actually decent and not just hating. Nice for a change. TP is a HOF great. It's good to show respect. One reason Kawhi looks so amazing right now is he is doing what TP did back in 2012-2014; bailing out bad possessions and taken tons of players off the dribble.
But Harlem has it right. TP looks disinterested or lazy out there. One or two good plays a game, a little hustle, otherwise he is just trotting around.
I mean, the dude only has to play 20 minutes. He still has some jets. Run hard for 20 minutes FFS. It's frustrating. He's clearly having trouble not leading the offense. He needs to think how to play off-ball like Bellinelli.
Pop sees the games of course. If TP can't figure it out, Pop will use his steady hand for the first couple quarters, but otherwise Patty and even Lapro will pick up more minutes.
"He sets terrible screens. " -- Boomersgold
To his credit, he's been forcing things very little... I don't recall thinking "here goes the hero" more than 4-5 times in the first 4 games, tbh... And Pop has also been on his ass when he tries to go that way.
Also, peeps should give credit to Paddy for his improved defensive activity. He's never going to be a good defender, but he's been much more active in these first 4 games. Dunno if it's the contract year or what, but I thought he's been really good on that side of the ball too.
parker was a great player when he wad fast. Now, I thinkmpop has a dilemma. He knows Patty should be starting, but he also knows thst parker's big ego 2ould grestly resist coming off the bench. I tuink that's one resson tp seems do depressed when he is on the bench and pstty is playing grest. I think his ego is telling him that he is still young enough to play like before even though that is not realistic. TP hss been behaving so far but he almost always has a depressed face on the bench, even whe the spurs are playing exciting ball and the other bench playersvare excited. who knows what the solution should be.
please excuse my typing. I have a small tablet.
Tony was great against the warriors, I assume he is getting in ready for the playoffs not trying as hard during the reg season. He had a long summer, and he is up there both in age and mileage. Plus our youngsters could benefit from that extra playing time.
"But Parker is clutch and gets paid more."--Chinook
The tears of ST player fans seems like a pretty damn good reason, tbh.
I think pop could see it as....Why with a SL that "works". You'd have to think, LMA and patty know eachother. If they wanted to dictate Mills as starter they probably could. I just think KAwhi and LMA like Parker. Make of that what you will. Benching Parker this early would be a huge red flag and team morale issue.
To me the bigger issue is not demoting PArker but figuring out gasol and deadmon. The slight benefit you get from giving patty an extra 7-10m in playing time isn't significant. Parker will always play with Kawhi or LMA who are each first option offense guys.
If i was going to start patty, i'd at least wait till midseason to work on gasol and see what the younger guys can do for the bench unit. There is really no urgency at all. Some of you are just insecure
Two things I've yet to say about anybody. In fact I'm a Green homer, and last year will probably be the only year where Danny is paid more than Manu.
Because he is not an F'N PG for the millionth time. If you start Patty, you MUST start Manu as well so we will have a point.
No way the Spurs go an entire season with Patty at the point. No F'N way. We already have big problems with Parker at point, you want to make it worse by forcing a natural 2 guard to play there? It just plain dumb.
Maybe because like I said, the bench is so much better with Patty? And by the looks of it, they can murder any bench in the league. And Pop doesn't know where to place his child.
Yea I haven't seen you gripe about the contracts. I don't as much either, but it does peeve me that Tony's role can be performed by someone paid a lot less, who is younger, will be healthier, doesn't need to be rested, etc. It truly is a legacy contract, same as current Manu's contract....
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Let's wait for the experiments, for Danny to get back to covering for Tony on defense, let's wait to see what else Pop has in the bench guys... etc.
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I suppose my best "good reason" to answer OP, is asrcasm. Let's blame fathead. When Danny gets back everything will be peachy... (In reality it won't Tony will still be Tony but Danny will cover for him on defense, and provide more shooting for Kiwi hopefully. Tony himself? I am going to hold myself back. I don't think he fits in the bench, and he won't be rendered unplayable this season, so it is what it is, but Pop is willing to go with whomever is playing the best and whoever fits best.
Not really imho. Please let's stop talking about being a "pg" or being a "traditional pg" I think that's way past the current style of play now. Besides the starting lineup has Kawhi which is kind of point forwarding at the moment. Parker isn't really doing a lot that Patty can't do like (Pnr'ing), in fact one can argue that he has better court vision the Tony, almost equal passing skill, but way better shooting, defense, passing etc.
let's just keep someone averaging 2.6 assists a game as our starting point guard. patty had 5 when he started. that's more than parker's had in all three games he's played in.
Patty has a very tough time controlling tempo because he dribbles in straight lines and he does not start, stop, change directions well at all. You want to tie up KL with the handling, then he gets fewer minutes overall. It is an absolutely absurd idea with Manu and Patty working well together. In fact, I can see those two even finishing games until Green gets back. And possibly even beyond Green getting back. It could be OK for a few games against the right teams, but not for a season. At some point in the game minutes must be taken up by a guy that sets up the offense and gets people in the right spots without necessarily having to score. Especially since we have guys who do best in a set offense. We are not the Warriors 1st team. Especially now that KL is feeling really comfortable in a set.
I have watched the the degradation of Parker. Until someone else can emerge who can read tempo for Pop it's a no go. Patty should not be required to play a role he is not good at. I firmly believe Patty is a better overall player than Parker but that's not germane to how our team appears to work.
You don't get it.
let's just keep someone averaging 2.6 assists a game as our starting point guard. patty had 5 when he started. that's more than parker's had in all three games he's played in.
We dont have a point who even gets close to the top third of the league in assists. There is NOT one on our current roster.
says someone who still wants parker in the starting lineup
Who do you want taking the point dumbass?says someone who still wants parker in the starting lineup
are you french or do you hate kawhi?
To be fair, that's never really been TP either. Pop like scorers, and Tony has always been primarily that, a scorer playing the PG spot. That's actually why it's been so difficult for him to deal with his new physical realities (which is not entirely his fault, tbh, he was built to use his main advantage, speed, in order to score).
Since last season, this team, from gameplay, priorities, personnel, etc is very different from the many faces of the Duncan-era Spurs. Time will tell if it's for good or bad, but that's besides the point. Tony is just in a very difficult position because he needs the ball in his hands to be effective, and in that starting lineup it's just not really his role anymore. You saw today we finished the game with Manu and Patty, but the guy that was playing point to close the game was actually Kawhi. On a night where LMA is also on the floor, those are your go to options, the rest basically play off the ball spacing, cutting, etc.
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