View Poll Results: are the spurs better without parker?

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  1. #601
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    this thread was made before:
    -hater made one saying tp was going to be apart of the new big 3 http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256131
    -harlem made one saying tp should be an all star http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256395

    i wanted to trade parker while he had value to people that weren't me. who knows what help the spurs could've gotten for td's last year.

    posters here talked MAD after i posted this thread. and the original post is respectable as

    if you're reading and wanna see people get shut the up then just go through this thread.

    i bumped this thread a lot because it was representative of parker's play.

    even when parker had "good" games. ask my dabom:
    oh I get it.

    An alt. or a dumbass who can't think for himself.. " muh the fake engineer"
    Christ.
    Another ignore.

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    oh I get it.

    An alt. or a dumbass who can't think for himself.. " muh the fake engineer"
    Christ.
    Another ignore.


    i get my assed owned so ignore

    i don't give a about having alts. not worth my time. i want credit for my takes.

    -i was a big fan of simmons since his play in vegas, said he was better than anderson early on
    -was right about parker's decline
    -this summer i said bertans will be in the rotation
    -this summer i also also said dedmon would surprise doubters

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    i hate having to reply to the re s of spurstalk.

    first let me preface this by saying i wanted to trade parker when he had trade value (january). posters against the idea were: nathan89, thegreat , brazil, steelpussythathangslikewizardsleeeve, that geisha cry havoc.

    who would i start over parker? in no order: mills, murray, simmons.

    i wish there were better options. i wanted to trade him for some. unlike you useless posters.
    You hate to say it?
    Then you did not say it.


    You have no F'N answer. "I said we should have, but... But....."

    Who do you play at point?
    Dumbass.


    go to sleep clown.

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    If the Spurs didn't have Porker, we would have another 15mil for the cap. ing losers.

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    Only because he attempts like 1 ing 3 per game. All of them while being wide ing open, and most of those from the corners. We need a PG that can shoot 3s for real.
    Hahaha so now it doesn't matter that Parker has shot one of the best percentages from 3 in the league the past 2 seasons (leading the entire league for almost the first half of one of them) because he shoots them from the corner? And he shoots them when he's open instead of forcing contested 3s? Hahaha wow. This is why you guys are so against Parker...even the things he's improved on and developed you ignore because of literally the position on the floor that he shoots and the fact that he's smart about doing it.

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    If the Spurs didn't have Porker, we would have another 15mil for the cap. ing losers.
    Dabom, a man smarter than RC Buford and Pop himself. Just imagine how many les we would have won with Dabom in the front office. Probably every season tbh. If we would have brought in CP3 or Westbrook we'd probably have 10 les even though those guys couldn't win one on stacked teams.

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    Dabom, a man smarter than RC Buford and Pop himself. Just imagine how many les we would have won with Dabom in the front office. Probably every season tbh. If we would have brought in CP3 or Westbrook we'd probably have 10 les even though those guys couldn't win one on stacked teams.
    Well, I do always trend the correct way ahead of many people.

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    Hahaha so now it doesn't matter that Parker has shot one of the best percentages from 3 in the league the past 2 seasons (leading the entire league for almost the first half of one of them) because he shoots them from the corner? And he shoots them when he's open instead of forcing contested 3s? Hahaha wow. This is why you guys are so against Parker...even the things he's improved on and developed you ignore because of literally the position on the floor that he shoots and the fact that he's smart about doing it.
    No, Parker's 3p% doesn't matter because he just doesn't shoot enough 3's per game. Bragging about Tony's 3p % is like bragging about the FG% of a backup center that only attempts putbacks. The % doesn't mean if there's not a big enough sample size.

    For every 3 pointer that Tony attempts there are like 20 good looks that he ignores because he isn't a good enough 3 pt shooter. Or situations where insted of being on the 3 pt line, he's a couple of feet inside it because that's within his range. So instead of a 3 pt shot the team has to settle for a long 2. Those kind of details have proven to make a huge difference in today's NBA.

    We can not expect to beat the Warriors in the playoffs with a PG that doesn't shoot 3s.

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    after a few games:
    MP PER TS% TRB% AST% STL% TOV% WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
    ginobili 68 8.6 .407 11.5 19.6 2.2 18.2 .018 -2.8 3.1 0.3 0.0
    mills 90 25.7 .721
    1.9 20.1 2.3 5.2 .327
    9.4 -1.5 7.9 0.2
    parker 74 3.4
    .385 3.8 18.3 0.7 19.4
    .002
    -5.0
    0.7 -4.3
    0.0
    simmons 98 12.5 .514 6.2 15.8 0.5 12.8 .103 -1.1 0.7 -0.5 0.0

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    after a few games:
    MP PER TS% TRB% AST% STL% TOV% WS/48 OBPM DBPM BPM VORP
    ginobili 68 8.6 .407 11.5 19.6 2.2 18.2 .018 -2.8 3.1 0.3 0.0
    mills 90 25.7 .721
    1.9 20.1 2.3 5.2 .327
    9.4 -1.5 7.9 0.2
    parker 74 3.4
    .385 3.8 18.3 0.7 19.4
    .002
    -5.0
    0.7 -4.3
    0.0
    simmons 98 12.5 .514 6.2 15.8 0.5 12.8 .103 -1.1 0.7 -0.5 0.0
    Porker

    Post the whole team my man.//

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    Porker

    Post the whole team my man.//
    i could post stats for the team. would need a more appropriate thread though. that's why i just posted stats for our guards.

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    Honestly, why do the Parker defenders even try at this point? The best contribution he can make is to participate less.

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    Honestly, why do the Parker defenders even try at this point?
    Because love is blind.

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    parker getting torched by his former backup. he can't stay in front of his man... can't stop a nosebleed.

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    sasdynasty hates when you compare parker's advanced stats to other players. the way kobe fans are.

    so i thought i'd check out what parker looks like compared to himself... so far this year:
    -his PER is at the lowest in his career, is less than half of what it was his rookie year

    -his TS% is at the lowest in his career

    -highest TOV% of his career

    -his OWS, DWS, WS, WS/48, OPBM, BPM, VORP are at the lowest in his career... by a lot

    -out of his OWS, DWS, WS, OPBM, BPM, VORP... he's in negative in all those categories but 1. his best category? WS, he's at 0.0.

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    parker getting torched by his former backup. he can't stay in front of his man... can't stop a nosebleed.
    Parker's opponents so far: Steph Curry, Ty Lawson, Tim Frazier, Goran Dragic, George Hill
    Mills' opponents so far: Patrick McCaw, Ben McLemore, Langston Galloway, Rodney McGruder, Dante Exum

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    Parker's opponents so far: Steph Curry, Ty Lawson, Tim Frazier, Goran Dragic, George Hill
    Mills' opponents so far: Patrick McCaw, Ben McLemore, Langston Galloway, Rodney McGruder, Dante Exum
    sasdynasty hates when you compare parker's advanced stats to other players. the way kobe fans are.

    so i thought i'd check out what parker looks like compared to himself... so far this year:
    -his PER is at the lowest in his career, is less than half of what it was his rookie year

    -his TS% is at the lowest in his career

    -highest TOV% of his career

    -his OWS, DWS, WS, WS/48, OPBM, BPM, VORP are at the lowest in his career... by a lot

    -out of his OWS, DWS, WS, OPBM, BPM, VORP... he's in negative in all those categories but 1. his best category? WS, he's at 0.0.

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    These polls are nice too. You would think by reading this forum that people believed that the Spurs would be better without Parker, but it's just that the Krew has such a large post count (by the same 5-10 people) that it just makes it seem that way.

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    Parker's opponents so far: Steph Curry, Ty Lawson, Tim Frazier, Goran Dragic, George Hill
    Mills' opponents so far: Patrick McCaw, Ben McLemore, Langston Galloway, Rodney McGruder, Dante Exum
    When you let Ty Lawson, Tim Frazier, Goran Dragic, and George Hill burn you....might be time for a career change

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    These polls are nice too. You would think by reading this forum that people believed that the Spurs would be better without Parker, but it's just that the Krew has such a large post count (by the same 5-10 people) that it just makes it seem that way.
    this proves k... is even smarter than you.

    even he said if the poll was made today that 99.9% of the posters on spurstalk would vote "yes".

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    When you let Ty Lawson, Tim Frazier, Goran Dragic, and George Hill burn you....might be time for a career change
    3 of those guys "burned" Parker by losing the game. And I'm not worried about getting burned by Dragic or Lawson or Hill. Those other names are the ones I'd worry about.

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    this proves k... is even smarter than you.

    even he said if the poll was made today that 99.9% of the posters on spurstalk would vote "yes".
    The ironic part of that is that i bet when you made this poll, you thought you could at least get 1/4 of the forum to agree with you, but you couldn't.

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    what the does this even mean?

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    Feel confident in saying dude can be out for the year and the team won't feel it a bit.

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