Reply With Quote
Absolutely.
Very good point.
Man I wish I could envision Parker swooping into the paint again. I see him as a safe ball handler now. For the time he spends with ball in hand his TOs are not horrible things that always lead to layups. How and where on the court a TO occurs are important. (Poor Manu's lead to layups) Parker still does fairly well at extricating himself when pinned against a sideline or baseline.
We are 4-0 with a new team. But I'm still not comfortable. If you take Parker out I can't see good fit. Might as well make him a pure reserve. And maybe at some point this season it needs to happen. But I have thought this before and then he will fool me and look quick for a game.
Absolutely.
Very good point.
Opinions are worth what you pay for them. But IMO, Lap's style of PG would complement this starting unit best. A PG who facilitates the other scorers, but can score enough to keep defenses honest. And a guy who is a little taller, stronger, and tougher, who can stick his nose in when he gets caught on a switch. I don't think he's going to be able to step into a starting role, but I think the kind of PG he COULD be would work well with the SL best.
I've always been a fan of Don Nelson. He's never been afraid to experiment or innovate. He'll take a roster, and make them compe ive. But he's also never won a Championship. The most likely thing is that Tony continues to start, with the exception of nights when he rests Tony.
I just have not seen enough of him.
But it's not a bad time to do some experimentation IMO.
Sorry if I have missed something but I have got the model train engineer on ignore.
Bala is on a tear to start the season, so I wouldn't begrudge any decision to elevate him. That said, you can manage both his and Tony's role and minutes without necessarily removing Tony from the starting spot.
No, like I said, you make some good points.
The Spurs have always (at least for a long time) gotten more mileage out of their bench than most teams. I think they have proven that you can be a very good team with a great starting lineup, but if you want to win Championships, you need a good bench too.
But your point about the bench carrying the SL makes a of a lot of sense. Everything I think about basketball says that you can't depend on that. Especially on the road. And really especially in the playoffs. I can't disagree with a lot of what you're saying.
You're talking about starting Patty now, to improve their chances next year. You realize that gets away from the "win now" mentality? If you're picturing the team as a serious contender to win it all this year, it's probably a different calculus than if you accept a likely second-round exit, and start focusing on winning it all next season. The more I look at the players they kept on this roster, the more I think they are serious about getting out of the Western Conference this year. IMO, that plays a big part in settling the roster for this season.
I agree with GSH on this one. Lapdog is probably the best set-up man on the team already. He just fits with the SL, while Patty is such a dynamo being one of the first guys off the bench and getting the majority of the minutes... I like that.
I'd like to see this happen, early on, while the experiments are being conducted.
Otherwise, should that not pan, I agree with dabom. Get your best players together, synergize and don't make your bench carry the burden of bringing the team back from the SL's deficit.
Ehhhh.... I dunno... sure, an upgrade on defense in the perimeter, on top of Danny and Kawhi, would be tremendous, but barring that, a really good shooter would fit really well with this team's SL makeup.
It's the pick your poison stuff... you guard one on one, Kawhi and LMA will burn you. You start doubling and you really need to pick your poison well, because if you have two really good shooters, plus Pau inside to clean up anything, it's really deadly, IMO.
The floor general stuff is more suited for the highly choreographed team game type of thing we used to run when we didn't really have a star anymore and ISOs were really not our first option. Lot of off the ball movement, some flex... it served us well for a while. When Tim was still GOAT, we ran 4-down and 4 shooters pretty much all game. I feel we're back into that to some extent.
Patty is the better player now and it has nothing to do with Parker's weight. He's too slow and old now. He's done.
Next year but this season. If Spurs are losing and they elect to start Patty, don't expect it to blow the game wide open. They need to make that move now. And Tony is and has been trending down for a long time now. Don't expect him to have a throw back series. You get what you see and worse possibly. Those are your options. We can't have a wait and see approach 3 years in a row for tony.
I'm going to bed after this. Maybe I'm wrong, but to me it looks like that's exactly what Parker wants to do. Keeps trying to do.
Handling the ball isn't worth . Tony stands out on the perimater and handles, handles, handles. Yeah, it's safe - because defenses are perfectly willing to watch. He's always looked to score first, and distribute second. And that's great as long as he has the jets to do it. , he really was the head of the snake for a while. But now (it looks to me) he's still looking to distribute as an afterthought, but there's no real threat for him to do it on his own.
I'm not a Parker-hater. But I see a lot of guys having to create for themselves, because he's safely handling the ball, but not doing much to facilitate the offense.
I'm saying that I think Patty would be the better starter. And Tony might be able to penetrate more consistently against bench defenders. But I'm not so sure that the second team needs another guy driving the paint.
People need to relax. SA is 0-4 and the bench looks strong which was a concern (at least for me). No DG, TP not looking great and the SL is still a +.
Let things play out with Danny back. No need to change anything when you already are starting to see a bench play well together and the team is winning. Plenty of time to make changes.
Parker fam saying the same thing 3 years in a row. When will they learn. We won 67 games last year and got owned with Turd Towers and Fathead. Everyone smart enough saw it early on. Same thing this year. If the only reason is "just cause we winning",you got no reason.
And Parker being garbage. But we let that one slide since he still could have possibly been better. Not anymore. Patty is the best player, and tony ain't the player he once was.
I mean, I know the SL with Kyle in it alongside brand new Pau and TP is not a positive but it's still a small sample and that doesn't seem terribly unexpected.
Danny changes a lot. Pau adjusting changes a lot. Still early.
Didn't get owned. That is mega-hyperbole. The Spurs went cold as a whole and still almost beat OKC (lots of bad calls didn't go SA way and they went frozen cold and still could have won every game). They did not get owned and Timmy not being able to give anything for the majority of the series played a role in losing too.
We've seen Kawhi and Patty always has a huge net positive. Been like that for a long time. It's not just these few games.
Parker being a liability all series. Dude never rises when the chips are down. If that isn't the biggest red flag, I don't know what is.
Playoffs Box Plus Minus. Tony
2013-14 31 SAS NBA PG 23 719 15.8 .531 .101 .202 0.8 6.4 3.7 26.1 1.1 0.2 14.1 28.3 0.3 0.7 1.1 .071 0.0 -1.3 -1.2 0.1 2014-15 32 SAS NBA PG 7 210 6.5 .386 .099 .187 2.0 10.0 5.8 18.9 0.5 0.0 10.0 23.4 -0.4 0.1 -0.3 -0.067 -6.2 -0.3 -6.5 -0.2 2015-16 33 SAS NBA PG 10 264 14.3 .499 .163 .143 0.5 8.7 4.8 31.4 1.2 0.6 14.7 21.6 0.2 0.3 0.4 .079 0.7 -1.5 -0.9 0.1
Playoffs Box Plus Minus. Patty
2013-14 25 SAS NBA PG 23 351 16.2 .573 .560 .092 1.0 10.4 5.8 14.6 2.5 0.2 8.7 21.3 0.5 0.5 1.1 .146 3.6 0.2 3.8 0.5 2014-15 26 SAS NBA PG 7 112 23.4 .744 .667 .310 3.7 14.8 9.1 11.9 0.9 0.0 9.5 21.1 0.5 0.1 0.6 .262 7.4 -0.7 6.8 0.2 2015-16 27 SAS NBA PG 10 167 15.2 .571 .679 .208 0.0 9.1 4.8 17.9 2.2 0.0 12.2 18.4 0.2 0.2 0.4 .124 3.7 -1.1 2.6 0.2
I never thought Parker would be worse than he was in the 2015 Playoffs, but he has morphed into half that player. The team has to really look into buying him out.
He had no problems bringing it up the court without Manu in the Olympics,either, this whole he can't play without him is an absolute myth.This pgardn still thinks that bringing the ball up the court is some super complex skillset that MVPaddy doesn't have.
he only has 8 secs to get past halfcourt, idk if Patty can do it
There is a reason you do not play your best lineups for most of the time ... Warriors did not start their Death lineup in the regular season either. Sometimes a scoring punch from the bench brings more benefits than adding that punch into the starting lineup which already has scorers like Kawhi, LMA, Gasol and hopefully soon DG.
except delly was the primary ball handler in most instances.
The point guard position is he toughest cover in the NBA.
Its only been 4 games but Mills has been above average on that side of the ball. He's a tough SOB and right now is in peak physical condition.
Your also going to get a few steals and hustle plays from him each game.
The liability days are over
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
