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I said 99%, which means there's 1% leftNice try Argie got. These PG's don't
maths dude
Hahaha hey don't bring stats into this. That doesn't go along with the "Parker is garbage" narrative.Nice try Argie got. These PG's don't
I said 99%, which means there's 1% leftNice try Argie got. These PG's don't
maths dude
Yes and he should . . .
- Considering the Spurs have arguably the greatest 6th man ever, Spurs fans should know at least as well as anyone that starting isn't necessarily about being the best on the team at your position.
- Mills would further limit the ball handling/play making in the starting lineup and is and will always be suited to coming off the bench. He also plays well with Ginobili and vice versa.
- Parker would further crunch the spacing with the bench and relegate Ginobili to more of a spot up roll. They'd tow the company line, but both be unhappy.
- Out of expendable pieces, they obviously don't have the goods to put together a package for a starting point guard.
He's looked terrible, no question, but many have wanted him to fully relinquish the reigns in recent years and now he has and many of those same people are still complaining.
You should post more. I believe this season is a litmus test of the Spurs' values as an organization. Do they value loyalty more than making a good move to maximize the team's chances of winning. If they are serious about winning, they should make every realistic effort to move him before the trade deadline and not wait until next off-season. He has clearly declined a lot in the last. 3-4 seasons. But that is made much worse by his inability to adapt very effectively or play much defense. Clinging to Tony if the team looks like it could compete for a championship would really irritate me this season!
Maybe some of us believe he could get even worse and stay that bad, forcing Pop to think about just keeping him out of the rotation completely. It's early and Tony can obviously turn his game around, but if he doesn't? And if he gets worse? Pop is already pulling him 4 games into the year. There's no way he can keep giving 25 minutes a game to the player we've seen thus far. , there's no way you can play that player 10 minutes, especially if you have championship aspirations.
I'm not hoping this is the case, I hope Tony turns it around for the sake of the team, but he's been pretty damn bad.
I could see a rotation like this, IF his play continues to be this bad consistently for majority of the year:
Gasol
Aldridge
Kawhi
Green
Patty
Dedmon
Lee
Bertans or Anderson
Simmons (defend back up PG)
Manu ( Manu wld defend SG)
That's the same ol RS fool's gold.
Rolls eyes.
In the past 5 years, SA has: WCF, Finals, Finals, First Round, Second Round. So much fools gold!!!!
Isn't that already very low for Tony - even this early? Maybe I am just hopeful, but the lower minutes and the points in the game,when he is getting pulled make it seem like Pop is definitely sending him a message to either get with the new program or...
And I think many who follow the Spurs would call some of those finishes disappointing - relative to legitimate expectations.
I don't think anyone would call that disappointing or fools gold. If so, those Spurs fans would be called spoiled brats.
If the Spurs want to ring, they need to start MVPatty, make Laprovittola the backup, and demote Porker to the Austin Toros' bench.
The 2015 postseason proved otherwise.
The 2 players he has the best synergy with are in the starting lineup: Softridge/Danny. If he goes to the bench, the spacing would be even more ed & he would be taking the ball out of Manu's hands. Most likely, Patty is going to close games like he did in 2014 when Porker was shaky.
Tony has just played too much basketball and it has (over the last three seasons) really undone him as a NBA player. The guy has logged an insane amount of minutes at 34 years old when combining his regular season and postseason (plus Olympic) minutes (42,172). Unless he's pacing himself (which I doubt but isn't inconceivable), then Tony's sobering play could be what we see for the remainder of the season.
We are just watching his natural decline but expedited faster because he has played so much. He really shouldn't start anymore, yet Patty (as good as he's playing) isn't a starting caliber PG either. Just gotta hope and pray that he can at least play to his level of last season, but if not Pop will need to go to Patty and Nicolas more.
Last edited by J_Paco; 11-02-2016 at 12:14 AM.
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He's 30 ing four going on 35. People around here were calling for Timmy's head at the same juncture. This is a 22- 32 year old game and Sadly TP is on the decline....
Yes, he will finish as the starter and the Spurs will probably get eliminated by the Clippers or Warriors in the playoffs because of it. Damnit.
Looking for the "God, I hope not" option.
I have looked around and I don't see what can be done. I come back to, let's hope he turns it around. Spurs defense in the past held it together in the paint and covered for so many guys. I have missed TD the GOAT.
There would have to be 200 PG's in the league for these guys to only cons ute 1%. Maths dude
These people expect a championship every year or massive changes to the roster. Every day I'm on Spurstalk makes me more and more appreciative having intellegent people in the FO.
You mean the stats that matter? Lol. Delusional .
Yah they matter so much that they show Boban to be our best player by far last season and playoffs. If that's what you mean by "matter."
You weren't disappointed by last season's end - much less the '15 loss to the Clips? That one was crushing - but it has been hashed and re-hashed too much already.
I don't even know that it's possible that Parker gets worse this season. Either way, Pop is never going to drop him from the rotation, especially considering it's not as if they have a third point guard that's a clear rotation player, like Joseph in '14-'15. Parker's level of play was never going to influence his minutes, for the most part, but rather whether he skews closer towards 25 mpg than 28 mpg and more importantly, how frequently he closes close games.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the rotation you suggest (if this continues), I'm just saying, professional sports are not entirely based on merit; there's politics involved. I think you're conflating what you want to see with that they're actually willing to do.
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