I'm not a troll on this board...
I used to defend Tony Parker to an extent...
But his play has been ing pathetic all season and he's becoming a serious problem going forward if he doesn't pick up his play. I understand he's 34 with miles on the tires but the lack of energy/pace is a ing disgrace. He's supposed to be the QB of this team and I understand there aren't scoring opportunities like in the past but that's not an excuse for piss poor energy and just going through the motions on both ends to open games.
Manu/Patty/Simmons are perfect examples of players who may struggle but you can never question their effort or pace at which they play. Other players feed off high energy and it maximizes everyone's play..I don't think it's a coincidence the SL has started out slow and the bench typically has to energize the entire team. This even goes back last year...
I honestly don't think Parker enjoys his "new role"..he's never been a true PG and always had a score first mentality...his ball handling and court vision hasn't improved since getting this role. If he doesn't score the energy isn't there..and it pissed me off more than anything watching him get a pep in his step after his buckets. Straight up got tbh
The most frustrating part is I dunno how to fix the this...Pop can hope he starts to bring leadership or energy or really send a message to him and the team by benching him. That could obviously become a serious problem and ruin the team chemistry all together or maybe benching him lights a fire under his ass because he will have more scoring opportunities..I dunno tbh and Pop has his work cut out for him.
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Not sure how his ball handling (which was already good) was going to "improve" by changing his role offensively, but you make good points everywhere else. I think Pop and the fans need to give it a little more time before stating this will be Tony "all season."
Tony needs to find his shot (it has abandoned him thus far), build chemistry with Pau, get Danny re-integrated once he returns and just play a better third tier role to Kawhi, LaMarcus and Pau. If he can't accomplish that and continues to suck then sadly his days in San Antonio and as a NBA player are numbered.
Note: It can't an easy adjustment to have once been an elite PG (just 4 years ago) and in a short time become relegated to a 4th option. His defense has been terrible the last few seasons and he was never a great passer (always decent or above average), so now he has very little to fall back on. Sad that he couldn't pick up a lot of the "savviness" that a lot of his former teammates (Timmy, Manu, Brent, Kurt, Horry, etc.) added as they aged.
He's just a bad defender, I don't think it's a question of effort. In a game where the opposing PG is torching us, he needs to go to the bench
The problem is that this is an ISO team now. Kawhi & Aldridge aren't passers, period. Last night Parker had double the assists of anyone else on the team. He's the only one that can distribute on this squad.
At least when he was the main scorer he also led the team in assists and got the rest of the team involved. That's what made them so great. You didn't know if Parker was going to score on you or kick out for a 3. Kawhi & Aldridge are great scorers, but since they can't/don't pass teams at least know what they're getting, which is why it doesn't hold up for them in the playoffs.
The Spurs were at their peak in 2012-2014 when Parker was the main scorer & distributor. Now Parker is the only passer we have left (Manu has flashes like always, but it's not conisistent). Him talking a back seat in scoring makes him one-dimensional now, but this is what everyone wanted...we'll, here you go.
Patty Mills isn't a good defender but he's active and picks his match up 90ft almost all the time. It's the pace that Tony plays at which is troubling...just because you're setting up players doesn't mean you can just go through the motions.
at a fan of ENRIQUE PORKER calling any other player out for not passing enough. When Pop has to scream at Kawhi or Aldridge to pass the ball like he has to do multiple times a game with Porker, maybe then you'll have a point.
When Porker was the first option, the Spurs never even sniffed a le. But his player fans would rather go back to the days of Clipperesque first and second round exits than appreciate a player like Kawhi.
There's no excuse for Tony Parker not averaging at least 7assist every night. If you're going to only average 5pts a game you've got to threaten a defense one way or another...
It's total BS the way he's playing the game of basketball and you can't make excuses for him anymore
After 5 games Parker is averaging 5.5 ppg....come on, man
Tony being aggressive is not shooting mid range pull ups behind the big either...Tony needs to be aggressive attacking the paint and if he wants to score attack the rim and shoot tear drops etc. Attacking the paint should be his #1 priority just like it is for Manu..even though you attack the paint doesn't mean you're looking to score..attack and kick isn't a bad option either lol
Yes, because in your simple mind 2013 & 2014 never happened........
When Porker was the first option, the Spurs never even sniffed a le. But his player fans would rather go back to the days of Clipperesque first and second round exits than appreciate a player like Kawhi.
It is one thing to try to be funny and insulting as a troll, but stating bold faced lies is another.
ty "Enrique" wins NBA le as first-option (2014), but Point "God" Chris "Fall" can't even make it to the conference finals......
Tony Parker:
Paul, Westbrook, Nash, Williams: 0
We are only 5 games in to the season and TP looks tired out there. In previous games his shot was hitting the bottom of the rim. WTF is that? I've said it before and I'll say it again, he needs to go. I'm not sure what the Spurs can get in return for him but I am certain of one thing - his time in the NBA is at its end. Any talk of 5 more years is just as ludicrous now as when he first said it.
I've never cared for the guy and I especially think he's irrelevant now. I was confused as to why Pop had him in the game in the 4th quarter. He looks more spent than a 39 year old Manu.
Duncan's resurgence + Kawhi taking over = 2013 and 2014, in spite of Porker.
One of those instances you wish we had a cutthroat type of GM like Danny Ainge so he would Pierce/Rondo him while he sill has a modi of value as HOF/star name..The team has officially moved on to another era, and Manu for 1-year is enough to bridge that transition..
If Parker had another wind in his career, he would have already shown it last season after the epic level embarrassment of his Clippers series..He is TOSB-level of Done..
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Porker ranked 39th in apg
Do you relieve the amount of basketball he's played at just 34 years old? He has the legs of a 38, 39 year old when you include regular season, postseason and international play. His decision to play so much has had a detrimental effect on the end of his career. No one to blame but himself, really.
Tony should have given up international play 4 or 6 years ago, but continued to play and piled up more miles on the odometer. Now, he is a s of himself and looks like his career could be over....
I'm still holding out a little bit of hope that he's "pacing" himself, but that isn't very likely.
How can anyone defend a player on this board who's putting up 5pts 4asst on 33% shooting as a starting PG on a top team in the NBA?
That's unacceptable
You are ing stupid, man. Parker was an All-NBA award winner and MVP candidate in 2013. That was probably the best season of his career.
He led the team in scoring and was still a important factor offensively in 2014, but that is when the decline began to be completely honest.
coasting tbh
That's the type of excuse and mentality that pisses me off...you don't coast to start the season...coasting tbh
After his complete tailspin/nosedive to end last season and decision to (once again) play in the summer this outcome was inevitable. Tony was never a guy that took being in tip, top shape serious and I never took him as a "gym rat."
So, his lack of conditioning, his decision not to rest over the summer, the general mileage on his body plus wear and tear has added up to the player we see today. His fall from grace is as sad as Iverson's (IMO) because neither learned to adapt (sufficiently enough) to their body's gradual decline.
Or in other words: they relied too much on their ungodly speed & quickness, but never appropriately adapted once that went away.
5.5ppg, 4.0apg, 2.0rpg, 0.3spg, 33%FG, 5.2PER He must be the worst starting PG in the NBA by far right?
Or he can just act like he gives a play with a purpose and take his new role seriously and maximize himself by doing so..
It's pretty ing simple tbh..he's supposed to set up his teammates and become a past first pg right? He even named dropped John ing Stockton as a model he wants to play by..with that being said Tony should want to average career high in assist as his individual goal. But nah....
Water is wet. I hate that ing water.
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