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    Well duh

    Pop yells at him to pass the ball to the ALPHAKawhi, so yeah

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    I'm still here not caring about advanced stats that show Boban as our best player.
    There's this thing called "minutes played" that the scorekeepers keep track of that help you keep those stats in context. It's almost as if Boban's advanced stats are skewed by the small sample size of minutes he played compared to the Spurs' core players. Crazy, I know, but you actually have to think for a few extra seconds instead of blurting out the stats with no context.

    Still here with an understanding like coaches in the league that you don't dump the only guy on your team that knows how to pass the ball.
    If Porker is the only one on the Spurs who knows how to pass the ball, then why has MVPau made almost as many passes as Porker in slightly fewer minutes, despite being a big man? , MVPatty isn't too far behind Porker despite playing significantly fewer minutes.

    LVPorker: 49.3 passes per game in 26.6 MPG
    MVPau: 41.8 passes per game in 23.6 MPG
    MVPatty: 38.2 passes per game in 20.9 MPG

    They all make about 2 passes per minute played. "But, but, Porker is the only one who can pass the ball!"

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    OP what starting pgs in the NBA is Tony better than?
    Dragic, Beverly, Williams, Rondo, Rose, Holiday, Dellavedova, Schroeder, Lin, Collison, Bayless, Payton, Russell, & Mudiay. I'd also rather have him than Teague, Jackson, & Walker.

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    Yes, we're all aware that the French pig cares first and foremost about his stats in the box score and how to pad them. He's still a net negative on the court. His BPM is -4.1 - only Dejounte Murray has a worse BPM and he's only played 10 minutes. Incredibly, the fatass is hurting his team more on offense (-3.5 OBPM) than defense (-0.7 DBPM).

    So basically, Porker is pulling a Rondo: padding his assists while not making his teammates better. And vanilla fans like the OP still get suckered in by it.
    Smh. s who go by raw stats should've died in the 90's.

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    OP right now :


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    There's this thing called "minutes played" that the scorekeepers keep track of that help you keep those stats in context. It's almost as if Boban's advanced stats are skewed by the small sample size of minutes he played compared to the Spurs' core players. Crazy, I know, but you actually have to think for a few extra seconds instead of blurting out the stats with no context.


    If Porker is the only one on the Spurs who knows how to pass the ball, then why has MVPau made almost as many passes as Porker in slightly fewer minutes, despite being a big man? , MVPatty isn't too far behind Porker despite playing significantly fewer minutes.

    LVPorker: 49.3 passes per game in 26.6 MPG
    MVPau: 41.8 passes per game in 23.6 MPG
    MVPatty: 38.2 passes per game in 20.9 MPG

    They all make about 2 passes per minute played. "But, but, Porker is the only one who can pass the ball!"
    So why do you keep using those same stats with no context? Why are you comaring plus/minus stats of a starter playing against Steph Curry to a bench warmer playing against Patrick McCaw?

    And yah, of course other players can pass...I'm talking about assists.

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    Smh. s who go by raw stats should've died in the 90's.
    Us dummies who think Kawhi was our best player last year (RAW stats) and not Boban (Advanced stats).

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    Sounds general enough to continue a bad narrative. Which of his stats were empty in this game?
    His assists, for starters. He was -9 and the Spurs lost, so he clearly wasn't making his teammates better. He also tied with Simmons for the worst DRtg on the team (an atrocious 122), so any positive impact he could have made on offense was cancelled out by how he got ed and ed on defensively.

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    Well duh

    Pop yells at him to pass the ball to the ALPHAKawhi, so yeah
    Even a bench scrub like Simmons was telling him to pass the ball.



    The body language in the pass says it all.

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    His assists, for starters. He was -9 and the Spurs lost, so he clearly wasn't making his teammates better. He also tied with Simmons for the worst DRtg on the team (an atrocious 122), so any positive impact he could have made on offense was cancelled out by how he got ed and ed on defensively.
    So you also are saying Kawhi was making his teammates worse too right? Because he was also negative. Manu was -23. How bad was he statpadding.

    See this is why advanced stats are garbage. You know who the only "positive" player was? Jonathan Simmons...who was the Spurs worst player on the floor. 1/7.

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    So why do you keep using those same stats with no context? Why are you comaring plus/minus stats of a starter playing against Steph Curry to a bench warmer playing against Patrick McCaw?
    I didn't. I pointed out that Porker was making a negative impact on the court and brought up his stats. No comparison necessary.

    And yah, of course other players can pass...
    That's not what you said. You claimed that Porker was "the only one who knows how to pass," when in reality, he's throwing the same number of passes per minute as his own backup at PG and the starting center are.

    I'm talking about assists.
    Are you for real? As a Spurs fan who watched the Beautiful Game, you of all people should know that passes aren't the same thing as assists.

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    Even a bench scrub like Simmons was telling him to pass the ball.



    The body language in the pass says it all.
    Lol, you didn't play a lot of basketball growing up, did you?

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    Even a bench scrub like Simmons was telling him to pass the ball.



    The body language in the pass says it all.

    Porker

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    Yes, we're all aware that the French pig cares first and foremost about his stats in the box score and how to pad them. He's still a net negative on the court. His BPM is -4.1 - only Dejounte Murray has a worse BPM and he's only played 10 minutes. Incredibly, the fatass is hurting his team more on offense (-3.5 OBPM) than defense (-0.7 DBPM).

    So basically, Porker is pulling a Rondo: padding his assists while not making his teammates better. And vanilla fans like the OP still get suckered in by it.
    Damn homie.

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    So leading the team in APG means???

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    /TP

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    So leading the team in APG means???
    He's the tallest midget.

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    WOW by .2 per game through 5 games when he is the starting POINT GUARD

    The only reason Kawhi isn't leading in assists is because he can't pass to himself, TBH

    I really don't like to bash TP because he's done a lot for this franchise, but I won't stop until delusional fans come to their senses.

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    So leading the team in APG means???
    That he's doing more than anyone else to help others score. Not sure if you understand what an assist is or not, but that's what it means.

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    WOW by .2 per game through 5 games when he is the starting POINT GUARD

    The only reason Kawhi isn't leading in assists is because he can't pass to himself, TBH

    I really don't like to bash TP because he's done a lot for this franchise, but I won't stop until delusional fans come to their senses.
    Actually what's really amazing is that Parker has more assists than Kawhi considering this:

    USG%:

    Kawhi: 32.8
    Parker: 13.7

    Parker continues to get the team involved more than Kawhi while having the ball in his hands well less than half the time Kawhi does.

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    8778101[/URL]]Actually what's really amazing is that Parker has more assists than Kawhi considering this:

    USG%:

    Kawhi: 32.8
    Parker: 13.7

    Parker continues to get the team involved more than Kawhi while having the ball in his hands well less than half the time Kawhi does.

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    Since SAS sucker clearly wants to get ted on again, here's another fun fact for your ass.

    Despite starting, playing more minutes and having a comparable usage rate, Porker is only averaging 0.3 more secondary assists per game than a 39-year-old Manu. You know, the same Manu who Porker's fans rip to shreds and actually have the nerve to whine about his contract.

    Porker also has a lower assist-to-pass ratio (8.1) than Manu (9.4) or Kawhi (13.4). So despite all the hype from his fluffers about how Porker is "the best at helping others score," it sure looks like "washed-up" Manu and "Kawhobe" are far more efficient at setting their teammates up. They'd be even better if they could pass to themselves. After all, both Kawhi (23.0) and Manu (17.6) are scoring more points-per-36 than Porker (15.6).

    Face it: Porker is padding empty stats on a stacked team while making a negative impact on the court.

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    Op keeps living in the past.

    Embrace the new era, champ

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    Since SAS sucker clearly wants to get ted on again, here's another fun fact for your ass.

    Despite starting, playing more minutes and having a comparable usage rate, Porker is only averaging 0.3 more secondary assists per game than a 39-year-old Manu. You know, the same Manu who Porker's fans rip to shreds and actually have the nerve to whine about his contract.

    Porker also has a lower assist-to-pass ratio (8.1) than Manu (9.4) or Kawhi (13.4). So despite all the hype from his fluffers about how Porker is "the best at helping others score," it sure looks like "washed-up" Manu and "Kawhobe" are far more efficient at setting their teammates up. They'd be even better if they could pass to themselves. After all, both Kawhi (23.0) and Manu (17.6) are scoring more points-per-36 than Porker (15.6).

    Face it: Porker is padding empty stats on a stacked team while making a negative impact on the court.
    Dang so not only does Parker have more assists than Manu, but he has more secondary assists as well? I actually didn't know that...further bolsters the point that Parker leads this team in distribution in pretty much every way you can track it.

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    Parker still leading the team in assists since no one else on the Spurs has the capability of picking up more than 4 assists in a game. 16 years in and no one else on this team can facilitate? Dang, no wonder Pop keeps starting Parker.

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