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    Pure water is always an issue in heat exchange. At least a million a year of my business in service work is directly due to water impurities in the heat exchange process.
    I saw an article this week that tap water should not be used in humidifiers because the minerals pass through your gut ok, but ionized, they aren't so friendly to lungs. distilled water only in humidifiers.

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    Germany Mulling €2 Billion Incentives For Electric Cars

    Germany is considering providing 2 billion euros to subsidize the purchasing of more electric cars. German Economy Minister Sigmar Gabriel is behind the idea, which also includes adding more EV charging stations and supporting the acquisition of more electric vehicles for federal offices.

    One might expect it would be an individual from an environmental government department who came up with such an idea, because electric vehicles are better for the environment, but the German government in general is getting more supportive of EVs. It wants one million of them on the roads by 2020, which is obviously just four years away. (One source estimatedthat there may be another 950,000 which need to be sold to reach the goal.)

    http://cleantechnica.com/2016/01/16/...eanTechnica%29



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    FORD INVESTING $4.5 BILLION IN ELECTRIFIED VEHICLE SOLUTIONS, REIMAGINING HOW TO CREATE FUTURE VEHICLE USER EXPERIENCES



    • Ford is investing an additional $4.5 billion in electrified vehicle solutions by 2020, including the new Focus Electric with all-new DC fast-charge capability, which delivers 80 percent charge in an estimated 30 minutes and projected 100-mile range
    • The company is adding 13 new electrified vehicles to its product portfolio by 2020; more than 40 percent of Ford’s nameplates globally will be electrified by the decade’s end
    • Ford also redefining how future vehicles are created, moving from a features-based product development to a customer-experience-led process, applying insights from social scientists


    https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...solutions.html

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    U.S. to invest billions in self-driving cars

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    lf-driving cars got a financial shot in the arm from the federal government Thursday, but a new report shows the autonomous vehicles have safety issues that could delay their appearance on U.S. highways by years.

    Announcing the Obama administration's pledge to invest nearly $4 billion in autonomous technology over the next decade, Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said federal guidelines for autonomous vehicles will be developed with industry members and other stakeholders within six months.

    Foxx stressed the importance of safety in a presentation made to attendees of the North American International Auto Show in Detroit, asking, "What happens if human error could be eliminated?" But a new report from the California Department of Motor Vehicles suggests that machine error also needs to be eliminated.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-self-driving-cars-20160115-story.html

    "next decade"? Repugs are sure to block such funds, in their blatant strategy to up everything they touch.



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    I barely see the need for the government to invest at this point.

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    I barely see the need for the government to invest at this point.
    Over those 10 years of govt spending a puny $4B on self-driving cars, the govt will waste 1800 times more, $7T+, on corporate welfare to the corrupt MIC.

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    Over those 10 years of govt spending a puny $4B on self-driving cars, the govt will waste 1800 times more, $7T+, on corporate welfare to the corrupt MIC.
    Two wrongs don't make a right.

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    Two wrongs don't make a right.
    govt investment is not wrong, it's right, with a huge ROI, better than nearly all VCs.

    The quicker computers take over driving the sooner 10Ks Americans won't die on the road. Driving is obviously a public health disaster.
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    govt investment is not wrong, it's a right, with a huge ROI. The quicker computers take over driving the sooner 10Ks Americans won't die on the road. Driving is obviously a public health disaster.
    Go blow someone else.

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    Chevy Volt Sales Top 100,000, First In US To Reach That Mark

    After a strong sales performance in July, the Chevy Volt is now the first car with a plug to sell more than 100,000 vehicles in the US market.

    The Nissan LEAF was leading the sales parade in America until the second generation Volt was introduced last last year. Since then, Volt sales have zoomed while LEAF sales has slowed to a crawl.

    Ford has enjoyed strong sales of its plug-in hybrid Fusion and C-Max models this year

    http://gas2.org/2016/08/03/chevy-vol...us-reach-mark/



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    MIT Proves What We’ve Argued For Years: Range Anxiety Anxiety Is Illogical









    http://cleantechnica.com/2016/08/17/...eanTechnica%29

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    is this the car in the shop cosmiccowby?

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    MIT Proves What We’ve Argued For Years: Range Anxiety Anxiety Is Illogical
    Really?

    So you think people are OK with plugging it in every day?

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    U.S. aims to create 48 national EV charging corridors, across 25K miles of highway

    The Obama administration announced on Thursday that it will create 48 national charging corridors for electric vehicles, covering off 25,000 miles of U.S. highways running through 35 states. The initiative will include a partnership between 28 states, local utilities, EV charging companies and car makers GM, BMW and Nissan.

    Reuters reports that the combination of stakeholders is designed to help “jump start” the addition of more EV charging stations into the mix, perhaps accelerating the pace beyond what any individual concern working along would be able to accomplish.

    https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/03/u-...8TechCrunch%29

    The Dems and Repugs aren't "the same". Repugs would never promote such a anti-BigOil/BigAuto strategy.





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    U.S. aims to create 48 national EV charging corridors, across 25K miles of highway
    My understanding is Tesla charging stations only charge Teslas.
    Will be int to see where the US national 48 stations are.
    Will there be a cost to charge up?

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    My understanding is Tesla charging stations only charge Teslas.
    Will be int to see where the US national 48 stations are.
    Will there be a cost to charge up?
    yep, it's a stupid, but necessary, phase in the early days. An analogy would be Ford selling cars that could only be fueled by Ford proprietary fuel.

    The Tesla-only charging stations are a huge expense for Tesla, but it's the only way their cars can be sold, now.

    There has to be Federal regulation defining "generic" (not proprietary) public charging points so all brands of cars can use them, a regulation that would also govern private charging points.
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    ^^ Has Barry stated if the US chargers will cost to charge up?

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    ^^ Has Barry stated if the US chargers will cost to charge up?
    Of course, the electricity won't be free. But wind and solar will keep electricity prices down (if the "free market" isn't screwed BigElectricity)

    The govt strategy is, as with tax policy, direct, encourage, direct behaviour.

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    U.S. aims to create 48 national EV charging corridors, across 25K miles of highway

    The Obama administration announced on Thursday that it will create 48 national charging corridors for electric vehicles, covering off 25,000 miles of U.S. highways running through 35 states. The initiative will include a partnership between 28 states, local utilities, EV charging companies and car makers GM, BMW and Nissan.

    Reuters reports that the combination of stakeholders is designed to help “jump start” the addition of more EV charging stations into the mix, perhaps accelerating the pace beyond what any individual concern working along would be able to accomplish.

    https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/03/u-...8TechCrunch%29

    The Dems and Repugs aren't "the same". Repugs would never promote such a anti-BigOil/BigAuto strategy.




    Did congress say they would approve the spending?

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    ^^ Has Barry stated if the US chargers will cost to charge up?
    And I suspect hew will want gasoline tax dollars be spend for these instead of road repairs... for cars that don't pay fuel tax...

    What a wad.

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    Toyota Dealers Refuse To Sell Prius Prime Electric Car

    The Prius Prime is available in all 50 states and deliveries began [in December] in all states. Initial deliveries were prioritized for [California and other] ZEV states based on customer demand, but allocation was balanced based on demand among all Toyota sales regions.

    “My Toyota dealer told me that they’d heard Toyota would not sell Prius Prime anywhere in the U.S. other than California and New York. She said they were told not to expect any Primes in any foreseeable time frame.”

    a customer near Dallas reported being told by the local Toyota dealer,

    The Prius Prime will not be sold by Gulf States Toyota distributor in any of their five-state market. That covers Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi. [The company] will not stock their dealers or allow orders to be taken. Those orders already taken with deposits are canceled and the deposits are to be refunded.

    there’s this from a customer who visited a Toyota dealer near Pueblo, Colorado last week and was told by two salesmen that the Prius Prime was only sold in California.

    Traditional car dealers just can’t be bothered selling electric cars.

    They don’t want their sales staff taking the time to educate customers about the advantages of electric car ownership and sales people are woefully unprepared to talk about them with customers as a result.


    Perhaps if Toyota revoked a few dealer licenses on the grounds that the owners are too stupid to be entrusted with such a valuable asset,

    http://gas2.org/2017/01/12/toyota-de...-electric-car/



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    Yawn...

    Another fake news story.

    Shazbot... You sure are a sucker for fake news...

    https://cleantechnica.com/2017/01/13...ering-dealers/

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    The Chevy Bolt is electric, but that's not the really good part

    It feels just like any other car

    The idea was to show reporters how the car can easily meet its EPA-estimated 238-mile range. It did, with room to spare.

    That was to be expected of course — but what I really wanted to know was how the Bolt was as a car.

    http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/13/12...essions-review

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    Yawn...

    Another fake news story.

    Shazbot... You sure are a sucker for fake news...

    https://cleantechnica.com/2017/01/13...ering-dealers/
    Your posted article doesn't exactly debunk what boots posted.
    From the article:
    <What’s interesting, though, is that the company apparently didn’t let dealers in non-ZEV states know until very recently that shipments of the Prime were on the way, according to Toyota’s East Coast communications manager, Corey Proffitt. However, the company did reportedly let dealers know that nationwide sales were the plan as long ago as April 2016.>

    Since when in the does an auto manufacturer not let it's stealerships know exactly when and what cars are coming?
    They are usually trying to hype that up at least a year in advance!

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    Why Apple, Tesla and Google are Fighting for This Rare Metal

    There is a massive opportunity for first-in investors in cobalt, as major hedge funds start hoarding the physical metal to gain exposure, and this long-overshadowed resource is poised to be more explosive than lithium.

    Analysts are already predicting a 500 percent deficit increase starting next year, and the tight supply figures have caused a panic to breakout.

    Major buyers of cobalt now find themselves scrambling to secure new supply, as

    hedge funds such as Swiss-based Pala Investments and

    China's Shanghai Chaos

    start stockpiling the metal because it's a surefire way to gain exposure to the coming price surge.

    So far, these hedge funds have scooped up 17 percent of last year's global production.

    The electric vehicle (EV) revolution has made cobalt one of the most critical elements of our time.

    Cobalt makes up some 35 percent of the lithium-ion battery mix,

    but there isn't enough new supply and what does exist flows through a very controversial and uncertain supply chain.

    http://www.altenergymag.com/news/201...re-metal/26445

    and then there could be this non-EV demand

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0802080232.htm

    meanwhile, Repugs plans to cut NREL budget dramatically.



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