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PER doesn't mean much, Danny would be one of the worst players in the league if you rated players based on PER.
Look at Mills compared to Hill on the top 50 PG's in PER (Player Efficiency Rating) on ESPN. Mills is #6. Hill is #20. Parker is nowhere on the top 50 list
PER doesn't mean much, Danny would be one of the worst players in the league if you rated players based on PER.
25/6/4 on 9/15 shooting.
Spurs can't get enough cap room to get close to sign George Hill, not with Parker porking all over the team salary.
The Spurs will have about 10 mill in cap space & another 2 more mill if they dump Kyle. So, they could offer Hill about a 4yr 48 mill contract which is in the territory of what Jeremy Lin/Tyler Johnson got this summer.
That won't be enough but I do like Hill and would like to see it happen.
Won't be enough.
Lin was a backup who had failed his way out of other starting jobs. Johnson had been a half season backup with a season ending injury.
Hill is a proven starter who plays both sides of the ball.
Utah has bird rights and is far enough under the tax they can probably max Hayward and still give Hill 15+ a year.
There should be other compe ion for Hill also.
It's funny how the Jazz got Hill in exchange for the draft right's of a poor-man's Kawhi that grew up in SA:
It's not about the compe ion, Danny turned down 60 mill offers & re-sign for 40 mill.
Boban also was going to turn down 21 mill to sign for 9 mill...don't underestimate the power of PATFO.
This is the best I've seen Hill offensively. I'm not his biggest fan, but this version of him would be amazing for the Spurs. I think his D is highly overrated here, but with his size if you can keep him on the opposition perimeter player who uses screens the least, he will be good. Hill/Green/Kawhi would offer amazing versatility defensively.
Green signed for his deal when the cap was 70 million. This summer will be over 100. Prorated at the same % of the cap, and the Spurs can't get to that number with Pau and Parker. Looking at between 14-15 a year. Plus Green was offered terms but teams he had no connection with, but Hill will have a relationship with UtahIt's not about the compe ion, Danny turned down 60 mill offers & re-sign for 40 mill.
Boban also was going to turn down 21 mill to sign for 9 mill...don't underestimate the power of PATFO.
And with the Boban thing, I wouldn't say that's comparable. I've heard one Spurs beat guy who was there when Pop said what he did claim Pop was joking.
We are set with Tony´s corpse until the end of his contract as we cannot afford another PG at the moment and the FO WONT TRADE TONY.
Its not the end of the world, the Big 3 were pretty durable, and 2 out of 3 kept a high level until 40 years old. That´s not bad.
We cant complain about the Tony situation as he is being handled the same way that Tim and Manu did, if anything, its a problem that the team is now fully rebuit and Kawhi and LA "suffer" from Tony.
Those guys are the one that should complain, if anything.
Georgie balling his way to 15-17$ millions, TBH..
I agree. In reality the team already has a PG getting paid a hefty sum. They can't at this point shed enough salary to pay another starting PG without shedding Tony himself. That is the reality. It's like Harlem said, we just got to accept it. It is unfair to the guys who are in win now mode. I keep hoping he bounces back... he's playing more of a team game so he's not going to be scoring that much, it's really on defense where he's getting cooked and where Danny covered for him a lot and he's out. When Danny's back he will get help on that end. Then offensively, getting less shots and being able to be picky about them should increase his efficiency and it hasn't. We shall see, I expect him to bounce back, if he doesn't then it does become a problem at some point, but Pop will give him chances, same way he gave Danny chances last season with his shooting slump. He may just reduce Tony's minutes if the slump is hurting, but he won't be benched into oblivion on account of the slow start.
How his Utah gonna afford Hill? They just offered Rudy a max, have to reup Hayword, and extend Favors to big deals too. Then they have other young players that are gonna want to get paid too.
If Hill is only worth $15-17 million for his current production, the Spurs should absolutely sign him up and promise him a starting spot! With today's salary cap, that's a steal. Just look at how much Conley got paid.Georgie balling his way to 15-17$ millions, TBH
I'm not sure Conley is the standard. We had a one time off season. The new cba isn't likely to be a big change. Conley was overpaid by Memphis (a very small market team) and his price driven up by the excessive cap space every team had.
Someone will overpay his ordinary ass about $17 million per....at least.
I think you may be low-balling Hill, but we shall see. $17MM isn't what it once was in the NBA...
He played just as well when Paul George was out w/ a broken leg:
He isn't anymore overrated than Klay Thompson, his size allows him to switch without getting raped unlike Porker/Patty.I think his D is highly overrated here, but with his size if you can keep him on the opposition perimeter player who uses screens the least, he will be good. Hill/Green/Kawhi would offer amazing versatility defensively.
George is pretty happy there TBH... and they want to extend him... this one flew away.
Last edited by SAGirl; 11-03-2016 at 05:11 PM.
Of course he'll say the right things. I bet he'll be even happier if he's starting for the Spurs.
Just like they supposedly couldn't sign Aldridge without gutting the roster and the Warriors technically didn't have enough for Durant either.
Creating cap space isn't difficult, unless you've got unwanted players and even then, if you attach the requisite sweetner(s), it's doable.
Exactly. I'm not surprised by these comments. If the Jazz are desperate enough and offer him 4 years and somewhere between $50-60M, he'll probably take it. But if he gets to the open market, I maintain that the Spurs will have a legit chance.
Man, I think you are really underestimating Hill's value under a cap that will exceed $100MM. If the Spurs could get Hill for that salary, PATFO would be elated.
Maybe. I will say, I think he'll skew towards the high end of that though.
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