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    http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/president

    There goes the liberals' last excuse for their loss.

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    It's not obvious they actually mean that from anything I'm reading on the site. I doubt they are calling this when there are still so many outstanding votes and no rush do count them in.

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    Paul Ryan: Donald Trump 'just earned a mandate'

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016...rned-a-mandate

    Just like in 2001, dubya losing the popular vote prompted head spew that Repugs had a mandate.


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    trump almost approaching john mccain levels of voting

    its a in revival

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    Paul Ryan: Donald Trump 'just earned a mandate'

    http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016...rned-a-mandate

    Just like in 2001, dubya losing the popular vote prompted head spew that Repugs had a mandate.

    Actually hoping so if Trump is going to try to do what he said in his victory speech. If he can get the GOP congress to pass what is essentially the SSJ Stimulus, that would be incredible.

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    Actually hoping so if Trump is going to try to do what he said in his victory speech. If he can get the GOP congress to pass what is essentially the SSJ Stimulus, that would be incredible.
    yeah the big stimulus for infrastructure and whatnot should be great. i would even say tremendous. my concern is more funding based... particularly the long term budgetary issue with his tax policy

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    trump almost approaching john mccain levels of voting

    its a in revival
    Trump delivered the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court to the GOP. Did McCain do that?

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    Actually hoping so if Trump is going to try to do what he said in his victory speech. If he can get the GOP congress to pass what is essentially the SSJ Stimulus, that would be incredible.
    http://www.acronymfinder.com/SSJ.html

    Repugs will continue their destroy-govt strict austerity policies.

    There won't be any stimulus because there will not be any increase in govt spending, except to enrich MIC's investors.

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    Where does it say he's going to win the popular vote? I don't see that at all.

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    Trump delivered the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court to the GOP. Did McCain do that?
    mccain inspired more people to go pull the lever for him

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    yeah the big stimulus for infrastructure and whatnot should be great. i would even say tremendous. my concern is more funding based... particularly the long term budgetary issue with his tax policy
    Oh yeah. The economy's probably ed. But I do think he could do this. Dude called himself a job-creator, and this would create a ton of jobs.

    I actually feel significantly more optimistic about a Trump presidency than I thought I would. Just no wars.

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    Oh yeah. The economy's probably ed. But I do think he could do this. Dude called himself a job-creator, and this would create a ton of jobs.

    I actually feel significantly more optimistic about a Trump presidency than I thought I would. Just no wars.
    not a fan of him sticking a climate change skeptic with no background in science (political theory and economics degrees) ahead of the epa... or potentially similarly unqualified people in other positions, like carson in education

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    Where does it say he's going to win the popular vote? I don't see that at all.

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    not a fan of him sticking a climate change skeptic with no background in science (political theory and economics degrees) ahead of the epa... or potentially similarly unqualified people in other positions, like carson in education
    I'm not a fan in general. I just think there could be positives when before I didn't.

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    mccain inspired more people to go pull the lever for him
    He lost the presidency by a landslide, and the Democrats won the Senate and expanded their control of the House. The exact opposite of the results that Trump delivered.

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    Yes, but I think that means the same thing as this:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election


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    Yes, but I think that means the same thing as this:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election
    No, that's the electoral vote. CNN has the same thing at the top of their page. What I'm referring to is the "Popular Vote" tab that only shows the popular vote. They're projecting that Trump will take the lead once the rest of the votes are counted.

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    Oh yeah. The economy's probably ed. But I do think he could do this. Dude called himself a job-creator, and this would create a ton of jobs.

    I actually feel significantly more optimistic about a Trump presidency than I thought I would. Just no wars.
    Repugs will destroy jobs, probably starting with killing solar and wind support, killing govt research and investment, and of course continuing austerity, no new spending, and defunding govt at all levels, Fed, state, local.

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    The "projected winner" check against Trump's name is based on EVs, not popular vote. It has been showing that since he crossed 270. Hillary will win the popular vote, but it doesn't matter - the GOP has the steering wheel and needs to govern for a change.

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    No, that's the electoral vote. CNN has the same thing at the top of their page. What I'm referring to is the "Popular Vote" tab that only shows the popular vote.
    I went to the page and saw that. But I don't know. Cali is still only 70 percent in, and her lead keeps growing. I feel like it would be at least too close to call at this point, but I'm not a professional or even a hobbyist in this regard.

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    The "projected winner" check against Trump's name is based on EVs, not popular vote. It has been showing that since he crossed 270. Hillary will win the popular vote, but it doesn't matter - the GOP has the steering wheel and needs to govern for a change.
    Yep, and wouldn't it be some if they did a good job. You know, all the things they know they needed to do but didn't because it would make Obama look good.

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    Yep, and wouldn't it be some if they did a good job. You know, all the things they know they needed to do but didn't because it would make Obama look good.
    Yeah, infrastructure and jobs bills will suddenly seem like great ideas to Congress, now that it's Trump signing them and not Obama. But you know what, I (and I suspect many others) will overlook their hypocrisy and childish opposition to Obama if they end up doing what's right for the economy now.

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    Yeah, infrastructure and jobs bills will suddenly seem like great ideas to Congress, now that it's Trump signing them and not Obama. But you know what, I (and I suspect many others) will overlook their hypocrisy and childish opposition to Obama if they end up doing what's right for the economy now.
    Yeah, I'd overlook the out of it and vote for them in 2020 if it worked.

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    The Repugs, for the past 25 years, have shown no interest in governing, NONE.

    That's where "ALL POLITICS, ALL THE TIME" comes from.

    St Ronnie The Useful Idiot parroting the toxic VRWC bull "Government IS the problem" is the ideology the Repugs adore blindly.

    Govt cannot, must not do any good. Govt is evil Repugs will prevent their govt from doing any good for the 99%, while redistributing taxpayers $Ts away from taxpayers and to oligarchy.

    Repugs are 100% BAD ING FAITH.

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    Yeah, I'd overlook the out of it and vote for them in 2020 if it worked.
    It's actually a killer strategy if you think about it. When in opposition, don't let your opponent pass laws that help the public and blame them for not performing. When in power, pass those exact same laws and claim credit. The GOP could slowly but surely marginalise the Dems at the Presidential level. The only problem is that they can't help but cut taxes, roll back regulations and "spread democracy" for their donors - and that comes back to bite them in the ass.

    After Gingrich played hardball with Clinton to create a budget surplus, Bush increased Federal spending (subsidy programs, Medicare part D, military spending). But the 2 tax cuts and 2 wars eventually caught up with him. Now they've held the line against Obama's spending plans and reduced the deficit, in comes Trump with an infrastructure program. Let's see how the rest of it pans out.

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