FuzzyLumpkins

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Good to see you're alive. What happened with the echo chamber?

My post had nothing to do with typos. But it's cute you think I follow you around.

The echo chamber got key positions in Trump's campaign. You should pay better attention.

Are misspellings and typos mutually exclusive? What's cute is that I am so much on people's minds that they leapt on here to call me out. You jumped right in too, Crayola.

[vy65]

The echo chamber got key positions in Trump's campaign. You should pay better attention.

Are misspellings and typos mutually exclusive? What's cute is that I am so much on people's minds that they leapt on here to call me out. You jumped right in too, Crayola.

Exactly, looks like your efforts failed.

Still cute that you have no idea what I'm getting at. Real keen intellectual you are. I will enjoy the schadenfreude though.

[vy65]

Both sides want power.

The left wants as many welfare recipients as possible to vote, they want illegal immigrants to vote.. all these people vote their wallets.

The right wants business owners and middle class people to vote, because they also vote their wallets.

Both sides would do anything to win, which was made evident by the DNC butt ing Bernie out of the race. You want to talk about blocking votes? How about blocking funding?

This.

[DMC]

sure, and there are legitimate criticisms of that. the popular vote isn't what ultimately matters, no . it does represent public support though (which is my point), as opposed to regional/geographic support

If we changed the rules you'd have a chance of being right. Public support is shown by voter turnout as well. I didn't see red and blue people changing, I saw states changing.

[DMC]

The echo chamber got key positions in Trump's campaign. You should pay better attention.

Are misspellings and typos mutually exclusive? What's cute is that I am so much on people's minds that they leapt on here to call me out. You jumped right in too, Crayola.

Re s are often the subject of conversation. "You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you".

[Spurminator]

Both sides want power.

The left wants as many welfare recipients as possible to vote, they want illegal immigrants to vote.. all these people vote their wallets.

The right wants business owners and middle class people to vote, because they also vote their wallets.

Only one side is actively gaming the system so fewer people vote. I don't really care what the motivation is for either side to get more people to vote. More people voting is always better. Unless you're on the side that benefits from it being harder to vote.

[DMC]

Only one side is actively gaming the system so fewer people vote. I don't really care what the motivation is for either side to get more people to vote. More people voting is always better. Unless you're on the side that benefits from it being harder to vote.

Not true. How many Bernie supporters abstained when they found out the DNC ed him?

[Spurminator]

Not true. How many Bernie supporters abstained when they found out the DNC ed him?

A lot, probably, but what does that have to do with voter suppression? Unless the DNC was making it more difficult for Bernie voters to make a choice during the Primary, I don't understand the comparison.

[DMC]

A lot, probably, but what does that have to do with voter suppression? Unless the DNC was making it more difficult for Bernie voters to make a choice during the Primary, I don't understand the comparison.

"so fewer people vote"

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Exactly, looks like your efforts failed.

Still cute that you have no idea what I'm getting at. Real keen intellectual you are. I will enjoy the schadenfreude though.

What efforts? I got ducks to stop spamming the forum. That was the goal and it worked.

I know what your getting at; your problem is that you suck at articulation. Is that what they taught you at law school? Thanks for revealing that you struggle to generate joy in and of yourself though.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This.

That is the echo chamber narrative but both sides court the middle class. The problem is that the middle class is no longer the majority.

[Spurminator]

"so fewer people vote"

I don't think quelling enthusiasm is at all the same as reducing actual physical voting locations and times.

[Clipper Nation]

Only one side is actively gaming the system so fewer people vote. I don't really care what the motivation is for either side to get more people to vote. More people voting is always better. Unless you're on the side that benefits from it being harder to vote.

Even other liberals are admitting that the "voter suppression" excuse for their loss is horse . The Democrats' turnout was down even in states with lax voting standards.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/de...ssion-for-loss

[Spurminator]

Even other liberals are admitting that the "voter suppression" excuse for their loss is horse . The Democrats' turnout was down even in states with lax voting standards.

You may want to refresh your modem, you're about an hour behind in this discussion.

[vy65]

I am not going to allow this place to become an alt-right delusion echo chamber.

That worked out well, didn't it?

[DMC]

I don't think quelling enthusiasm is at all the same as reducing actual physical voting locations and times.

What you say holds no water. The evidence of corruption is so heavily on the DNC side that they ed their own voters. If a voting location closes, it affects everyone, not just one side.

[DMC]

That is the echo chamber narrative but both sides court the middle class. The problem is that the middle class is no longer the majority.

Courting to the Dems means ing. Obamacare ed the middle class business owner. It catered to people with no money or extreme existing conditions. It's like crashing your car and some insurance company being forced to cover you after the fact.

[Clipper Nation]

Bottom line: until Democrats admit that they're out of touch with the public instead of looking for scapegoats and excuses, they will continue to lose elections. They pushed way too hard on issues like immigration and gun control, while ignoring justified concerns over terrorism and refugees. They made transgender bathrooms and a private citizen's "locker-room talk" into campaign issues while ignoring what the average voter cared about.

Making matters worse, they branded anyone who disagreed with their increasingly radical agenda as racists, sexists, fascists, phobes, Russian shills, and deplorables instead of listening to what their opponents were actually saying. They told themselves that they were "going high" while the Republicans "went low," but they ran a negative and divisive campaign the entire time. They bought their own bull and convinced themselves that most of the country were the monsters they wanted them to be instead of the human beings they actually are. It didn't take long for the "monsters" to get fed up and go where they were appreciated.

It wasn't voter suppression. It wasn't nominating Hillary instead of Bernie. It wasn't dumb poor racist whites getting duped. It wasn't the Electoral College, which you guys weren't complaining about in 2008, 2012, or even this election back when you still thought you had a "blue wall." No, America simply voted to reject your platform and your rhetoric. You can either adapt to win the country back, or keep lobbing insults and making excuses and wondering why you keep losing.

[DMC]

What efforts? I got ducks to stop spamming the forum. That was the goal and it worked.

I know what your getting at; your problem is that you suck at articulation. Is that what they taught you at law school? Thanks for revealing that you struggle to generate joy in and of yourself though.

So you're the one to blame for Hillary's loss?

[Spurminator]

What you say holds no water. The evidence of corruption is so heavily on the DNC side that they ed their own voters. If a voting location closes, it affects everyone, not just one side.

Sure, it effects both sides evenly if that precinct tends to split the vote 50/50.

I'm not okay with what the DNC did but they didn't place physical limitations on people's ability to vote, so it's not the same.

[DMC]

Sure, it effects both sides evenly if that precinct tends to split the vote 50/50.

I'm not okay with what the DNC did but they didn't place physical limitations on people's ability to vote, so it's not the same.

You sound like the mother of the DNC.. "I'm not OK with what my son did, but your son was the real problem"

You're ok with it, other than it didn't work.

[Spurminator]

You sound like the mother of the DNC.. "I'm not OK with what my son did, but your son was the real problem"

You're ok with it, other than it didn't work.

I'm not okay with it, I'm just not humoring your deflection and false equivalence. I supported Sanders.

DNC bias is completely unrelated to voter suppression by states.

[DMC]

I'm not okay with it, I'm just not humoring your deflection and false equivalence. I supported Sanders.

DNC bias is completely unrelated to voter suppression by states.

Prove voter suppression. I can prove DNC bias. If you cannot vote for your candidate because his own party backdoored him, what's the difference? Cities that are historically democratic should have better controls over their voting areas. It's always chaos, but that doesn't equal intentional suppression by the right.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That worked out well, didn't it?

Did ducks stop spamming threads, Crayola?

[rmt]

I didn't say it did. But who knows what kind of difference it might have made in NC, particularly down ballot?

All I know is there's only one side actively trying to make it harder to vote. There's a reason they're doing that and it's not massive voter fraud.

Didn't early voting in NC start from October 20th? You mean people can't find time to vote with all that time? That's over 3 1/2 weeks.