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    The Corruption Will Be Endless

    A simple point: Apart from all the other things people are rightly worried about,

    the Trump administration is going to be mind-bogglingly, often cartoonishly and comically corrupt.


    All administration's have venal corruption. A US presidential administration is large enough and has sufficient power that it is simply a matter of human nature. Indeed, even administrations run by presidents who are not themselves corrupt are often filled with corruption.

    Which brings us to President-Elect Trump.

    Trump himself is instinctively corrupt.

    I don't think requires much argument.

    He took a substantial amount of the campaign money he raised and ran it through his own companies.

    He practiced textbook self-dealing with his family foundation.

    Many of his private businesses were no better than glitzy cons and he developed a reputation for cheating partners, even if in many cases doing so in ways that didn't explicitly violate the law.

    He is placing his own children into prominent positions organizing his administration.

    His version of a "blind trust" is one in which his children and heirs administer his companies on his behalf while he is President.

    His companies are not 'public companies' in the corporate governance sense. But the vast majority of his companies' activities are carried out in public - hotels, golf resorts, licensing businesses, consumer businesses. None of this can really be blind even if there were any attempt to make it so.

    Trump and his children are in the process of building a real life version of the cartoonishly caricatured fantasy of the Clinton Foundation he created for his followers on the campaign trail.
    Trump is so thoroughly corrupt in his dealings that it is probably fair to say that he doesn't even recognize the concept of self-dealing as being a problem in itself.

    They say hypocrisy is the tribute which vice pays to virtue. In Trump's case there isn't even much hypocrisy. In every case we've seen him discuss it,

    he sees self-dealing and self-enrichment as a normal, meritorious way of doing things.


    His followers almost all tend to be grifters, in many or most cases people who bet all on Trump when he seemed like a longshot because both professionally and metaphorically they had nothing to lose. Those people will want a bonanza and I suspect they'll get it.


    I should add here that if ridiculous amounts of public corruption is the worst we get from the Trump administration I will, frankly, be profoundly grateful. Profoundly grateful. I fear and expect things that are far, far worse.

    I say all this not really to try to prove anything because I'm not sure there's anything to prove. For the reasons I've noted above I think it all goes without saying.

    I say it because we've just lived through eight years which are something of an historical anomaly.

    And we're heading into an era of unparalleled public corruption.

    Get ready.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...+%28TPMNews%29



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    Get ready.

    Trash isn't in office yet, but his "blind trust" is his own spawn.

    One lowest of ST rightwing nutjobs is trash-talking the future tense.

    Join Teysha Blue (sounds like a female gangsta rapper) as he, or she, trashes internet protocols.

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    Panic from OP is a sure sign he's convinced Trump will win a 2nd term.

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    Panic from OP is a sure sign he's convinced Trump will win a 2nd term.
    No panic here. Just wishful thinking on your tiny little part.

    Trash has been a crook, a grifter, a cheater, a self-dealer, a total fraud, his entire career, he ain't gonna change, corruption starts at the top. See Well Fargo, see all of p/e and hedge funds, all totally, thieving corrupt.

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    No panic here. Just wishful thinking on your tiny little part.

    Trash has been a crook, a grifter, a cheater, a self-dealer, a total fraud, his entire career, he ain't gonna change, corruption starts at the top. See Well Fargo, see all of p/e and hedge funds, all totally, thieving corrupt.

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    Trump’s conflicts of interest are without precedent in American presidential history

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...business_pop_b

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    ?Who. Owns. Donald. Trump?




    In the 1970s, he ran up a $38 million personal debt and was bailed out by his father.

    In the 1990s, he racked up $1 billion in debt twice and raided his own company to enrich himself, and even then, may have needed insolvency laws to climb out of the hole he dug.

    Wouldn’t it be remarkable if the tycoon, who was claiming even in his darkest days in the 1990s to be worth over $1 billion, was admitting to the IRS that he was really not just dead broke, but hugely under water?

    And that a special escape provision called “insolvency”—a place Trump has never publicly confessed to being—saved him a bundle in taxes?

    American banks long ago stopped dealing with Donald Trump, and for a very good reason. Those losses Trump reported in 1995? They were 2 percent of all the net operating losses reported for the entire country. Donald Trump was a one-man economic wrecking crew.

    So who does Trump owe? He has admitted to at least five loans of at least $50 million each, but any of those loans could be for any amount above $50 million.

    Who really owns the Republican candidate for president?

    We know he owes hundreds of millions to Deutsche Bank, which itself is an enormous conflict of interest.

    … the presumptive GOP nominee also has a tremendous load of debt that includes five loans each over $50 million. (The disclosure form, which presidential candidates must submit, does not compel candidates to reveal the specific amount of any loans that exceed $50 million, and Trump has chosen not to provide details.) Two of those megaloans are held by Deutsche Bank, which is based in Germany but has US subsidiaries.

    But Deutsche Bank has serious problems.

    Deutsche Bank is in deep trouble. Its stock price has plummeted in recent days after the Justice Department demanded the gigantic German bank pay $14 billion to settle claims regarding its sale of bad mortgage-backed securities in the the run-up to the 2008 financial crisis. The bank's shares fell to a new low on Tuesday over reports it might be seeking a bailout from the German government—which Deutsche Bank has denied.

    Which puts Donald Trump into the position of being in debt to a foreign ins ution by a minimum of $100 million when that ins ution has been caught hiding data, manipulating markets, and trying to evade laws aimed at preventing just the kind of mess Deutsche Bank has created.


    And then there's Russia. Donald Trump can easily claim that he has “zero investments in Russia.” It may even be true. But it’s dead certain that Russia has investments in Trump.

    The most obvious example is Trump Soho, a complicated web of financial intrigue that has played out in court. A lawsuit claimed that the business group, Bayrock, underpinning Trump Soho was supported by criminal Russian financial interests. While its initial claim absolved Trump of knowledge of those activities, Trump himself later took on the group’s principal partner as a senior adviser in the Trump organization.


    “Tax evasion and money-laundering are the core of Bayrock’s business model,” the lawsuit said of the financiers behind Trump Soho.

    And, according to Junior Trump, that’s far from the limit of Russian involvement.

    “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

    German banksters. Russian Oligarchs. Who else owns Donald Trump?

    On the campaign trail, Donald J. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, has sold himself as a businessman who has made billions of dollars and is beholden to no one. …

    an office building on Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, of which Mr. Trump is part owner, carries a $950 million loan. Among the lenders: the Bank of China, one of the largest banks in a country that Mr. Trump has railed against as an economic foe of the United States, and Goldman Sachs, a financial ins ution he has said controls Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee, after it paid her $675,000 in speaking fees.

    The Bank of China. Goldman Sachs. And who else? You can’t find out by just looking at the do ents Trump filed with the FEC.

    The Times found three other instances in which Mr. Trump had an ownership interest in a building but did not disclose the debt associated with it. In all three cases, Mr. Trump had passive investments in limited liability companies that had borrowed significant amounts of money.

    Donald Trump’s business ties are a nest of people to whom he owes vast sums of money.

    Those are the people Trump is responsible to. The people at the top of his list.


    Far from being “beholden to no one,” Donald Trump is the most indebted candidate to ever run for president. By far.

    No one has to worry about any money he might take as part of the campaign.

    Because no one could possibly contribute enough to come close to the amount owed to the people who already own Donald Trump.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1...s-Donald-Trump


    DB owes US Treasury $14B. Will Trash forgive that debt?

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    But he won.

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    Get ready.

    Trash isn't in office yet, but his "blind trust" is his own spawn.

    One lowest of ST rightwing nutjobs is trash-talking the future tense.

    Join Teysha Blue (sounds like a female gangsta rapper) as he, or she, trashes internet protocols.
    Rent free.

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    He is less corrupt then anyone in office now

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    & he's only gonna take a smacker a year to be POTUS!!!

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    Nobody respects women more than Mr. Trump. Nobody...

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    Hitler, Mussolini, Chavez, Pootin all "won", too.

    In your typical ignorance of history of "winners", you have no idea what kind of "winning" can bring.

    Trash, with his Repug establishment policies, will bring TONS of on USA.

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    Nobody respects women more than Mr. Trump. Nobody...
    Certainly not other women.

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    Hitler, Mussolini, Chavez, Pootin all "won", too.

    In your typical ignorance of history of "winners", you have no idea what kind of "winning" can bring.

    Trash, with his Repug establishment policies, will bring TONS of on USA.
    But he won. There's not going to be another presidential election for 4 years, so you're only ing.

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    But he won. There's not going to be another presidential election for 4 years, so you're only ing.
    goddam, you're ing stupid.

    The end of "winning" justifies the all means, and justifies all the horrible stuff to follow

    goddam, you're ing stupid.

    ing against Trash and Repug establishment? It's any reasonable, sane, smart person's duty.

    Trash and his hate must not be normalized.

    goddam, you're ing stupid.

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    goddam, you're ing stupid.

    The end of "winning" justifies the all means, and justifies all the horrible stuff to follow

    goddam, you're ing stupid.

    ing against Trash and Repug establishment? It's any reasonable, sane, smart person's duty.

    Trash and his hate must not be normalized.

    goddam, you're ing stupid.
    rent free

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    I refer to the articles above and I think it is possible. Trump is a show man. He is shrewd. He can turn face and heel with ease. His track records is not very reliable, in my opinion. I thought he declared bankrupt before some years back. In many countries, a bankrupt status will have raised red flags on their potential political candidates, but in USA, I guess anything is possible. Bill clinton is a laughingstock for the rest of his life because he did morally wrong things in office. Hillary was described as being sophisticated at that time. The americans must have forgotten about it since it was some time ago. I propose that all leaders in this world must have high integrity. and are not weed smokers. and it is the responsibility of voters to discern the good guys from the bad guys. But it isn't easy, as they are often too skillful in their presentation, supported by some political machinery from behind. Anyway Americans have to be vigilant, and nip the bud if he turns rogue. He could be impreached at some stage into his term. I mean there is a possibility, if his past records is too spotty to cover up.

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    The whining will be endless.

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    If only there was some way to package and sell all this salt....

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    goddam, you're ing stupid, have no idea what "rent free" means.

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    Note to Boo.....

    Your kunt lost!


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Note to Boo.....

    Your kunt lost!
    That KUNT is living rent free in your head, kicker

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    That KUNT is living rent free in your head, kicker
    That disgraced kunt is living on the trash heap of history.

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