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    Without Duncan, Popovich would have retired ringless 10 years ago. All the "Spurs philosophy" and friendly system would never have worked with any other superstar other than TD.

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    - Manu > Parker; but it's Ginobili who benefited more from playing with Prime Duncan (2003-2007) than Parker whose prime (2008-2013) began when TD's decline kicked in. Before you take a dim view of the "TP-led Spurs teams", you should acknowledge that reality. In fact, Parker's prime is starting to get severely underrated because of his last ugly two seasons..
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    - Manu > Parker; but it's Ginobili who benefited more from playing with Prime Duncan (2003-2007) than Parker whose prime (2008-2013) began when TD's decline kicked in. Before you take a dim view of the "TP-led Spurs teams", you should acknowledge that reality. In fact, Parker's prime is starting to get severely underrated because of his last ugly two seasons..
    I was probably the biggest Tony Parker homer from 2010 to 2012..Shame Rapist stole his First team honours in 2012.

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    an opinion that you hold and you might get flak for, but u just happen to believe in regardless

    Opinions with trolling intent isn't the aim of the thread..there is a difference between unpopular and infamous..
    make up your mind

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    Manu is the best player ever from a completeness standpoint.

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    an opinion that you hold and you might get flak for, but u just happen to believe in regardless



    make up your mind
    In his particular case, it is fine if he wants to bring a heap of derision on his own head with that take instead of piquing the interest/curiosity of other posters unless you happen to be the only other poster finding that laughably trollish statement intriguing and engagable..

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    I was probably the biggest Tony Parker homer from 2010 to 2012..Shame Rapist stole his First team honours in 2012.
    I won't deny that TP was a some kind of playoff under-performer, but man his supporting cast in those years (2009-2011) was an embarrassment outside post-prime TD(shot knees+ankle issues)& Manu ..If the Spurs had prime Parker transferred to 2003-2007 we almost certainly three-peat at least once in that period..

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    - Kawhi has an acute case of tunnel vision-- not for selfish reasons-- that might hinder his development into an above average playmaker-- this is an issue that's maybe related to innate instincts and can't be improved by mechanical repe ion. I hope he proves us wrong on this, too..

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    Kyle Anderson is a really good player

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    Signing RJ was the right decision

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    All things considered—Duncan falloff and subsequent retirement; Splitter terminal physical breakdown; Cojo ( ty start to the season) and Baynes not improving beyond marginal role players; and Belinelli stinking up the joint ever since— Softridge is still more worth it than not, tbh.

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    "Mills is trash"-- RD2191

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    - Stephen Jackson is the most criminally overrated Spur player for his overall contribution to the team..

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    Although he's not the same Parker still puts the pieces in place making the team go. Due to injury we never saw Drob at his very best.

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    - Bruce Bowen is overrated by Spurs fans..great defensive player, no doubt, but played in an era where his offensive flaws were never going to be exposed..also benefited greatly from having prime Tim Duncan and prime Alonzo Mourning behind him to protect the rim

    - LaMarcus Aldridge wasn't worth it

    - dabom is one of the 5 most intelligent posters in ST history..this one should be obvious, but a lot of people can't admit it, for whatever reason

    - Apo is one of the biggest draws in the history of the internet..his name is mentioned more than any poster I've ever seen, not just on ST, but anywhere

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    Jeff Ayres was not a horrible player; he was just a mediocre one on a team full of really good players.

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    - Bruce Bowen is overrated by Spurs fans..great defensive player, no doubt, but played in an era where his offensive flaws were never going to be exposed..also benefited greatly from having prime Tim Duncan and prime Alonzo Mourning behind him to protect the rim

    - LaMarcus Aldridge wasn't worth it

    - dabom is one of the 5 most intelligent posters in ST history..this one should be obvious, but a lot of people can't admit it, for whatever reason

    - Apo is one of the biggest draws in the history of the internet..his name is mentioned more than any poster I've ever seen, not just on ST, but anywhere
    Obviously, Bowen is overrated. I think every Spurs fan knows that by now.

    LMA wasn't worth what, exactly? This isn't like KD and Barnes/Bogut/Ezeli. The Spurs might only miss Joseph, and even he isn't having a good year. Trading Prime Tiago would have been a loss. Trading busted up Tiago was a blessing.

    I agree about Kawhitstorm, though not in history. Dude's one of the best right now, though.

    True, he does work. But he goes blue every once in a while, and I can't get a bead on when it's going to happen.

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    I won't deny that TP was a some kind of playoff under-performer, but man his supporting cast in those years (2009-2011) was an embarrassment outside post-prime TD(shot knees+ankle issues)& Manu ..If the Spurs had prime Parker transferred to 2003-2007 we almost certainly three-peat at least once in that period..
    Since when is 2009-2011 the Tony Parker's lead Spurs period?

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    LMA wasn't worth what, exactly? This isn't like KD and Barnes/Bogut/Ezeli. The Spurs might only miss Joseph, and even he isn't having a good year. Trading Prime Tiago would have been a loss. Trading busted up Tiago was a blessing.
    Yeah as I mentioned in my post: Looked at from all different angles, whether it's individual players or singular issues that have arisen ever since we signed him, nothing makes me regret the move even though I have grown to dislike his style of play. Heck, even Marc Gasol vs LMA-- should it have come down to that choice-- we are looking good on that front, too.

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    - Kawhi has an acute case of tunnel vision-- not for selfish reasons-- that might hinder his development into an above average playmaker-- this is an issue that's maybe related to innate instincts and can't be improved by mechanical repe ion. I hope he proves us wrong on this, too..
    Agreed. Thus why Kawhiso outside of closing out games is not winning basketball.

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    Tim Duncan never repeated




    Kobe did









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    All things considered—Duncan falloff and subsequent retirement; Splitter terminal physical breakdown; Cojo ( ty start to the season) and Baynes not improving beyond marginal role players; and Belinelli stinking up the joint ever since— Softridge is still more worth it than not, tbh.
    Agreed too. You are on fire spursistan!

    I'd add that Boris looks done as a player. Lee + Pau = much better than Diaw and DWorst.

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    Obviously, Bowen is overrated. I think every Spurs fan knows that by now.

    LMA wasn't worth what, exactly? This isn't like KD and Barnes/Bogut/Ezeli. The Spurs might only miss Joseph, and even he isn't having a good year. Trading Prime Tiago would have been a loss. Trading busted up Tiago was a blessing.

    I agree about Kawhitstorm, though not in history. Dude's one of the best right now, though.

    True, he does work. But he goes blue every once in a while, and I can't get a bead on when it's going to happen.
    We need some map or table to identify who's who on this ALT situation.

    When Harlem says dabom is intelligent, I think Harlem = dabom.

    Now you're interchanging dabom with Kawhistorm.


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    Agreed. Thus why Kawhiso outside of closing out games is not winning basketball.
    I'd add offensive droughts to the instances when Kawhiso is good.

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