Interesting stuff since the election...

[pgardn]

Unlike some here, I like "my fair share" to be the lowest possible the law will allow and feel no guilt in doing whatever/investing appropriately to accomplish that.

Yeah, that fair share thing is in quotes for a reason.
Its a very contentious debate in case you have not noticed.

Ask not what your country can do for you...

[rmt]

Yeah, that fair share thing is in quotes for a reason.
Its a very contentious debate in case you have not noticed.

Ask not what your country can do for you...

When my country uses my taxes wisely, responsibly and not wastes them is when I'll think that they deserve more. The rest of us has to live within a budget - why not them?

[pgardn]

When my country uses my taxes wisely, responsibly and not wastes them is when I'll think that they deserve more. The rest of us has to live within a budget - why not them?

Your taxes wisely...

There are others in this country who don't agree on what wise use is.
So we all just pay for what we want... I go with infrastructure over military.

[rmt]

There are some of us who think that the government has no business getting into certain areas (healthcare for one). Now, defense - that's a whole 'nother story - one that our founders intended the government to handle - but some might not even agree with that.

[Wild Cobra]

The stock market isn't going that nuts as a result of Trump. The Dow was in the 18,000s for a lot of last year and this year. In fact, based on the huge tax cuts he's promised, the infrastructure spending and the repatriation tax break... I would have expected it to be quite higher.

The initial bump I think is because investors like the prospects of a Trump presidency over a Hillary residency. If Trump actually gets congress to do things his way, I'll bet the markets will respond even better.

[Th'Pusher]

My life is a little more complicated than yours. I'm in the top tax bracket and buying houses I can deduct interest, taxes, maintenance, improvements, and depreciation meaning I save a load on taxes. Rent pays the out of pocket expenses while I build equity. When I sell in retirement IRS will recover the depreciation but by that time ill be in a lower regular tax bracket and gains will be taxed at capital gains rate.

CC is too rich to invest in the market

[CosmicCowboy]

CC is too rich to invest in the market

Didn't say that, but I do give thought to risk/reward in my investments. Considering the money pouring into REIT's I'm obviously not the only one that likes real estate right now.

[Winehole23]

Deficit spending plus tax cuts: one thing Obama, Bush and Trump all agree on.

One party rule makes for a bigger punch bowl: let the party begin!

[RandomGuy]

Do you think the markets would have responded in this manner regardless of who was elected?

[DarrinS]

Hillary up 1.5M votes, and counting.

We should just let NY and CA select our presidents, tbh.

[pgardn]

There are some of us who think that the government has no business getting into certain areas (healthcare for one). Now, defense - that's a whole 'nother story - one that our founders intended the government to handle - but some might not even agree with that.

So medicare need not even exist...

And once soildiers get their triage quickly and get back on the battlefield, any medical needs after that, just forget that. Only medicine for staying on the battlefield, once you leave, good luck.

Do you think the government has any business funding basic science research?

[DMX7]

There are some of us who think that the government has no business getting into certain areas (healthcare for one). Now, defense - that's a whole 'nother story - one that our founders intended the government to handle - but some might not even agree with that.

It stopped being "defense" a long time ago. The military spending today is as much about our maintaining global sphere on power and influence than it is about our actual defense.

[DMX7]

We should just let NY and CA select our presidents, tbh.

We should let the majority or at least the plurality of people who actually vote pick our presidents. It shouldn't matter what state they live in as long as they live in this country.

[pgardn]

We should let the majority or at least the plurality of people who actually vote pick our presidents. It shouldn't matter what state they live in as long as they live in this country.

I would like like to see a list of all the States and the weighted votes using the electoral college and number of people who voted this year. I bet a vote in Alaska might be worth twice as much as a vote in California.

[DMX7]

I would like like to see a list of all the States and the weighted votes using the electoral college and number of people who voted this year. I bet a vote in Alaska might be worth twice as much as a vote in California.

A vote in Wyoming counts almost 4x as much as a vote in California thanks to the electoral college.

WY: 3 Electoral Votes & 0.6 M People
CA: 55 Electoral Votes & 39.2 M People

CA has 18 times as many electoral votes but 67 times the population as WY.

[CosmicCowboy]

A vote in Wyoming counts almost 4x as much as a vote in California thanks to the electoral college.

WY: 3 Electoral Votes & 0.6 M People
CA: 55 Electoral Votes & 39.2 M People

CA has 18 times as many electoral votes but 67 times the population as WY.

There wouldn't be a USA to start with without the Electoral college.

[pgardn]

A vote in Wyoming counts almost 4x as much as a vote in California thanks to the electoral college.

WY: 3 Electoral Votes & 0.6 M People
CA: 55 Electoral Votes & 39.2 M People

CA has 18 times as many electoral votes but 67 times the population as WY.

I was looking for the number of electoral votes paired with the number of people that actually voted in that state in 2016. It gives a better reflection of how much a vote counted this year. It might be very close to the same numbers you put up but I don't know.

[pgardn]

There wouldn't be a USA to start with without the Electoral college.

This is is not a good reason to keep it imo.

Personally i I think keeping it and getting rid of it both have good arguments. Right now I swing towards the side of not forgetting the large land small population states. They tend to produce a lot of food and mineral wealth.

[CosmicCowboy]

I was looking for the number of electoral votes paired with the number of people that actually voted in that state in 2016. It gives a better reflection of how much a vote counted this year. It might be very close to the same numbers you put up but I don't know.

As far as that goes, votes really only count in a few swing states. Hard Red and Hard Blue your vote doesn't really count.

[pgardn]

As far as that goes, votes really only count in a few swing states. Hard Red and Hard Blue your vote doesn't really count.

Yeah I see that but folks still have to vote to make it hard.

[Bender]

A vote in Wyoming counts almost 4x as much as a vote in California thanks to the electoral college.

WY: 3 Electoral Votes & 0.6 M People
CA: 55 Electoral Votes & 39.2 M People

CA has 18 times as many electoral votes but 67 times the population as WY.

Luckily Wyoming people are smarter than Calif people

[Clipper Nation]

Cry more. Funny how gerrymandering wasn't an issue when the Democrats gerrymandered their way to a 40-year stranglehold on Congress. It only became a big issue when the Republicans pulled their head out of their ass and started beating the Dems at their own game.

[pgardn]

Democrats gerrymandered their way to a 40-year stranglehold on Congress..

Please list the years,of the 40 prior years, the Democrats controlled both chambers in Congress.
Slurping repeat.

40 years... where have I been. Probably not born.

[CosmicCowboy]

Please list the years,of the 40 prior years, the Democrats controlled both chambers in Congress.
Slurping repeat.

40 years... where have I been. Probably not born.

WTF?

What does the US Congress have to do with Gerrymandering? That's all state and census driven.

[Th'Pusher]

WTF?

What does the US Congress have to do with Gerrymandering? That's all state and census driven.

And for which body are the states drawing voting districts?