Spurs @ Wizards (17/82) (6 PM Central/12:00 GMT) Sponsored By TARP Games

[ElNono]

Besides the point I am fine w/ Manu being back and making whatever money. Just feel it's really dishonest to act like he's earning it this year.

No need for the excuses - he's earned the money and SA paid what the market dictated. Doesn't mean he's "worth" it and that is the type of intellectual dishonesty that drives the Manu/TP wedge.

Nobody I know made the claim he's worth that money, AFAIK

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm just glad he gave us a discount to stay a Spur for life, tbh... He didn't need to, but goes to show he's all about the team

[spursistan]

Man Murray shot is ugly and broken AF.. is two years removed from getting even spot minutes in rotation..

[Kawhitstorm]

Murray rewarded the fans for the support they showed throughout the game.

[DPG21920]

Not shooting a 3 when you're down 12 to settle for a long 2. Burke

[TheGreatYacht]

Pop and Kawhi recruiting Wall.....

hopefully he can follow in TP's shoes

[r0drig0lac]

easy win

[DarrinS]

W

[DPG21920]

Nobody I know made the claim he's worth that money, AFAIK

Well apparently the "market" said it's a good deal. It can't be a good deal if a player is not worth it.

[Kawhitstorm]

Man I hate the way Murray has to crouch when he's dribbling. I wish they would just make him a 2 guard.

He's going to be a combo guard, dude is turnover prone to ever be a point guard.

[Kawhitstorm]

Pop and Kawhi recruiting Wall.....

hopefully he can follow in TP's shoes

TGY w/ the inside scoop:

[spurraider21]

Well apparently the "market" said it's a good deal. It can't be a good deal if a player is not worth it.

not true. market sets the prices, not necessarily a player's worth. doesn't determine what's a good deal. the market made gordon hayward a max player, it doesnt make him worth the max, etc

[Kawhitstorm]

Man Murray shot is ugly and broken AF.. is two years removed from getting even spot minutes in rotation..

If Kawhi was a computer that needed a software upgrade then Murray is a sleek computer case.

[DPG21920]

not true. market sets the prices, not necessarily a player's worth. doesn't determine what's a good deal.

Sure - but that's not what he said. He said the market said it's a good deal. That's different.

[sasaint]

Man I hate the way Murray has to crouch when he's dribbling. I wish they would just make him a 2 guard.

I wasn't familiar with him at all before the Spurs drafted him. He is just so raw in every aspect of the game. For him to become a decent 2, Chip would have to perform a serious miracle. Maybe there is less to fix for him to become a PG...?

[ElNono]

Well apparently the "market" said it's a good deal. It can't be a good deal if a player is not worth it.

No. The market set the price. Whether it's worth it or not depends on what value you assign to it. The Spurs were pretty clear as far as what value they were looking for in Manu, and has little to do with mpg or ppg, etc.

Now you and I are not the Spurs and are free to use a different barometer...

[loveforthegame]

Impressive road trip.

[ElNono]

Sure - but that's not what he said. He said the market said it's a good deal. That's different.

You're conflating good deal with a players worth. The fact that another team offered 17M and the Spurs paid 14M is a good deal. Whether he's worth 14M (or 17M) is a completely different story.

[Kawhitstorm]

I wasn't familiar with him at all before the Spurs drafted him. He is just so raw in every aspect of the game. For him to become a decent 2, Chip would have to perform a serious miracle. Maybe there is less to fix for him to become a PG...?

He was drafted based on his athleticism & length along w/ his ability to handle the ball better than most guys his size. He might just end up being a rich man's version of Simmons once his body fills out which would make him a solid rotation player.

[sasaint]

If Parker could play like this all season, he would be worth his contract. Hopefully he continues.

Seems like I have thought that after almost every one of his games. I am rather optimistic about Tony this season.

[r0drig0lac]

Jamychal green going ham in miami

[DPG21920]

You're conflating good deal with a players worth. The fact that another team offered 17M and the Spurs paid 14M is a good deal. Whether he's worth 14M (or 17M) is a completely different story.

No-no, nono. You know what you did. Only after called on it did you start in with the market value stuff. You even started listing value things (leadership, etc..) that has nothing to do with the market price.

[Robz4000]

ElNono in damage control for The Client.

[sasaint]

He was drafted based on his athleticism & length along w/ his ability to handle the ball better than most guys his size. He might just end up being a rich man's version of Simmons once his body fills out.

At this point, that would exceed my expectations - especially with the growth we are seeing in Simmons' game. I'm pretty bullish on Simmons at this point.

[Robz4000]

Impressive road trip.

Agreed. Said going into it I expected them to go 2-1 or 1-2, but that if they went 3-0 it'd be a sign they're improving. Happy with what I've seen.