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    Take a good look at the Facebook post of the Ohio State University attacker.
    Sure, there's plenty of that familiar jihadist rhetoric. "America, stop interfering with other countries, especially the Muslim Ummah. We are not weak... By Allah, we will not let you sleep unless you give peace to the Muslims. You will not celebrate or enjoy any holiday."
    But what comes through most is this whining sense of victimhood, that he's forced to commit these atrocious, barbaric attacks on innocent people out of a righteous sense of self-defense to protect his feelings.
    "I am sick and tired of seeing my fellow Muslim brothers and sisters being killed and tortured EVERYWHERE. Seeing my fellow Muslims being tortured, raped and killed in Burma led to a boiling point."
    See, Muslims aren't being killed and tortured everywhere. It would be nice if someone close to him had told him that, and if fewer people helped fuel that rage-inducing falsehood. If he ever bothered to read a book or the news about places like Syria and Iraq, he would have learned that Muslims are mostly being killed and tortured by fellow Muslims. Who does he think are the majority of ISIS victims? Who does he think are blowing up mosques from Iraq to Yemen? Who does he think blew up those Muslims in the hospital in Quetta, Pakistan, or the Syrian refugee camp in Jordan, or set off the car bombs in downtown Kabul, Afghanistan, or the minivan filled with explosives in central Baghdad? It's not Westerners! You don't see American communities churning out waves and waves of gleeful suicide bombers!
    Burma? Burma? If you're so mad about that, buy a plane ticket and go on a rampage over there. What, you think the students at OSU secretly control the levers of power in Naypyidaw? (That's the Myanmar capital, and don't feel bad, I had to look it up, too.)
    He's convinced he and his fellow members of his faith are victims of an aggressive, malevolent West.
    He believes this while attending class at Ohio State University. Nobody's oppressing him. No one's imprisoning him without charges, trial, or appeal. Nobody's trying to kill him. No one's closing his mosque, or banning his faith. He's got a better life with more opportunities, freedom, and material abundance than probably 90-some percent of his fellow Muslims around the world. And he still thinks he's a victim of a malevolent America, and that everyone around him is a legitimate target for retribution.
    He's convinced that every Muslim around him privately agrees with him, but hides their true views from the non-Muslim world around them. He acknowledges that his fellow believers are carrying out "lone wolf attacks" and even taunts, "every single Muslim who disapproves of my actions is a sleeper cell, waiting for a signal. I am warning you, Oh America."
    Is this guy a jihadist? Sure. Even worse, he's a whiny Millennial jihadist, who thinks that everything in life is so uniquely unfair to him, and that he's unjustly victimized everywhere he goes. In an interview with the campus newspaper this summer, he said, "If people look at me, a Muslim praying, I don't know what they're going to think, what's going to happen. But I don't blame them, it's the media that put the picture in their heads."
    What, the unfair picture that any pious Muslim could be sympathetic to terrorists, a ticking time bomb, and full of murderous rage against everyone around him? Yeah, you sure showed us, pal! Allow me to float the theory that some people around this guy warily treated him like he was a nascent jihadist because he acted like a nascent jihadist.
    Accounts from the scene:
    Witnesses said they and dozens of others initially ran toward the car, thinking the driver might be injured in the crash. Student Armand Ghazi had heard the initial screams, so he was one of those who ran to help. But then he saw Artan — whom he described as dazed — jump from the Civic.
    "He seemed like a crazed animal," said Ghazi, a 20-year-old material-sciences engineering major from Cincinnati. "He seemed like he was determined. He seemed like he was there for one reason — to do as much damage as he could."
    Tanner Sereno, a junior studying welding engineering, also saw Artan jump from the car, swinging and slashing wildly with the knife. When another student walked to the car to help, Sereno said, "the attacker tried to grab his backpack and slash the kid from behind."
    Artan took off straight down 19th Avenue, still wielding his blade, but he didn't get far. OSU Police Officer Alan Horujko — a 28-year-old who has been with the department since January 2015 — confronted Artan and shot and killed him there, west of College Road and near an alley, just a minute later at 9:53 a.m.
    You may hear, "well, he didn't kill anyone." Not for lack of trying.
    Of the 11 people who were hurt, two were not transported by paramedics but sought medical care on their own later.
    Of five transported to Wexner, two had stab wounds, two were hit by the car and one had a laceration, Thomas said.
    Two more went to OhioHealth Riverside Methodist Hospital, both hit by the car. One had orthopedic injuries and the other had a skull fracture and appeared to be in stable condition, Thomas said. At OhioHealth Grant Medical Center, two people were treated for lacerations, and another went later with injuries from the car. All are expected to survive.
    It's nice to know we can skip over the "was this workplace violence?" or "what on earth could be his true motive?" questions. One of the most maddening factors of life in the Obama era was that as soon as something like this happened, we were forced to argue that we had just seen an actual jihadist attack, instead of having to rule out every other conceivable motive.

    (from the national review)

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    The same trained professionals that shoot blacks for no reason??
    That's your red herring, don't project it onto me.

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    Did you vet that by visiting a dozen sites?
    what's your list of reliable sources?

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    What???? Maybe don't let ducks use your account.
    Trevor, from GTA V. Surely you have driven into a crowd, jumped out and stabbed people.

    Without the gun stopping him, he could have done real damage.

    If students were armed, maybe his tirade never happens.

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    what's your list of reliable sources?
    I am still waiting for yours.

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    Trevor, from GTA V. Surely you have driven into a crowd, jumped out and stabbed people.

    Without the gun stopping him, he could have done real damage.

    If students were armed, maybe his tirade never happens.
    Yep, now everyone who got cut will have those scars on their body till the day they die.

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    I am still waiting for yours.
    i answered your question the best i could, ie i dont have a pre-selected list

    what's your list?

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    i answered your question the best i could, ie i dont have a pre-selected list

    what's your list?
    Well if I had one I wouldn't need yours. You're the one that scoffed at a source.

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    They all have their slant. Best to just keep hitting links till you find the original quote and make up your own mind.

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    Well if I had one I wouldn't need yours. You're the one that scoffed at a source.
    here's you scoffing at infowars. so what's your list?
    I don't listen to or read Info s.

    I just know that Stein has no reason to want a recount. Hillary wants it, but doesn't want to be seen as someone desperate. Jill loves desperation, she's lost everything she's ever tried to win so she's the face of it.

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    Did they ever figure out a motive in this case?

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    here's you scoffing at infowars. so what's your list?
    There's a difference between saying I don't read it and dismissing your message because you did.

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    There's a difference between saying I don't read it and dismissing your message because you did.
    calling them Info s wasn't you scoffing? oh. so whats your list of trustworthy news sources?

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    calling them Info s wasn't you scoffing? oh. so whats your list of trustworthy news sources?
    Not unless you don't know the definition of "scoff".

    I didn't speak to someone in a dismissive way. I denied reading the site. I can dismiss the site without scoffing at the person who said it. You scoffed at the poster because of the site. Big difference, you should know that context matters.

    I told you I don't have a list. So not only are you lacking the ability to discriminate contexts, you also have ty recall.

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    Not unless you don't know the definition of "scoff".

    I didn't speak to someone in a dismissive way. I denied reading the site. I can dismiss the site without scoffing at the person who said it. You scoffed at the poster because of the site. Big difference, you should know that context matters.

    I told you I don't have a list. So not only are you lacking the ability to discriminate contexts, you also have ty recall.
    so where did you read the news yesterday?

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    so where did you read the news yesterday?
    Here

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