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    Sucks when turd option loses us a series huh?
    Parker dominated Patty House in every stat imaginable in that series, advanced and traditional.

    Patty was real good at clanking wide open game winners though

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    Parker dominated Patty House in every stat imaginable in that series, advanced and traditional.

    Patty was real good at clanking wide open game winners though
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    Spurs perfect on the road. We a bad team.
    Wanna do 200.00 that we don't reach the WCF?

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    Wanna do 200.00 that we don't reach the WCF?
    Top 12 players healthy before playoffs. We make the WCF. I'll take you.

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    Even with Patty House playing a perfect game, our backcourt still got outscored

    This game should only be more cause for concern, not less. I mean, down 13 to the worst team in the West and needed one of Patty's best career games to win it.

    Not looking good...at all.
    I'm just saying, people forget about the games eventually, and look at the whatever-0 record on the road...

    Plus, we were missing about half of our backcourt, tbh, in Tony and Manu... and Patty out of all people really came through.

    If anything, I thought LMA was lame again tonight, tbh... and Pop was ridiculous with the lineup wiggling...

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    I'm gonna go take a shower. Brb.

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    BPM:

    Parker: -0.3

    House: -2.3

    Take the L, bro. Patty was garbage against a real playoff team last season.

    We'll see what happens this season. House is on fire. Hope it continues.

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    Top 12 players healthy before playoffs. We make the WCF. I'll take you.
    Healthy as in healthy enough to play? Meaning, if Kawhi plays on a tweaked ankle or pinky, he's still officially "healthy."

    If so, we got a deal.

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    BPM:

    Parker: -0.3

    House: -2.3

    Take the L, bro. Patty was garbage against a real playoff team last season.

    We'll see what happens this season. House is on fire. Hope it continues.
    You do know offensive defensive rating is a team stat right? Dude was playing with Manu Dworst fathead Diaw.

    I'll give you the impact on. Although I did say porker shooting for turd option is a lose scenario. I'm still right. And we never started patty.

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    Healthy as in healthy enough to play? Meaning, if Kawhi plays on a tweaked ankle or pinky, he's still officially "healthy."

    If so, we got a deal.
    Yeah. We got a deal then. . 2weeks to pay.

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    You do know offensive defensive rating is a team stat right? Dude was playing with Manu Dworst fathead Diaw.

    I'll give you the impact on. Although I did say porker shooting for turd option is a lose scenario. I'm still right. And we never started patty.
    It was. But you still have failed to grasp my point, though.

    I didn't want Parker being the 3rd option last season. I was hoping Manu or Duncan had one last run, but when it was obvious they didn't, I supported rolling the dice on Parker as the 3rd option because no other role player on the team scored in the double digits with any kind of consistency.

    Your lot argued for a "committee," and while that works in theory, it rarely works in practice. Players like knowing a defined offensive pecking order. They like knowing who to go to when 1 and 2 are being over-defended. Committees require too many moving parts.

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    So, to summarize, the Spurs have one of the worst backcourt rotations in the NBA. LMA is soft and is a not a net positive. Gasol is terrible, Kawhi's in a slump and constantly gassed. Pop is the worst coach and should be fired.

    Good thing they're 15-4 despite all this .

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    Good thing they're 15-4 despite all this .
    Even Sean was talking about this last night.

    Dont look at the record. There's maybe a handful of really good to good teams in the NBA. The rest are very marginal to bad, so there's a lot of winnable games.

    I've been following the NBA for a while now , and its impossible to quantify by looking at sheer wins and losses, but I agree with Sean.

    I can't remember a time in the league where there was so many marginal to bad teams across the board. I have to tune out some games on league pass because the play is atrocious.

    Go ahead and hold on to the Spurs' great record like last year if that makes you feel good. Me personally, I'm not content with record garbage and either should Pop or RC -- considering the state of the NBA from a compe ive standpoint. This team has a lot of holes that will be exposed by the other 4 good/great teams in the NBA -- that's what matters.
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    Dont look at the record. Theres maybe a handful of really good to good teams in the NBA. The rest are very marginal to bad, so theres a lot of winnable games.

    Ive been following the NBA for a while now and its impossible to quantify by looking at sheer wins and losses, but I agree with Sean.

    I cant remember a time in the league where there was so many marginal to bad teams across the board. I have to tune out some games on league pass because the play is atrocious.
    I agree. But surely this means our players aren't that bad compared to the rest of the NBA.

    Go ahead and hold on to the Spurs' great record like last year if that makes you feel good. Me personally, Im not content with record garbage and either should Pop or RC considering the state of the NBA from a compe ive standpoint.
    It's a great record for a team with so many new additions and rookies. The execution in crunch time has been very good both offensively and defensively a number of times already. Where they've slipped have been cases of underrating an opponent, being careless, not giving effort, being out of shape, etc., which is not due to a lack of talent.

    The Spurs are like 4th favorite for the le and a tier below the best two teams. Their ceiling is likely the second round realistically. I don't see a point to cliff jump because they're not playing like huge favorites. They're not. They're not going to ring unless some 2011 Mavs happens and Kawhi turns into a 2003 Duncan or 2011 Dirk.

    So, yes, it makes me feel good watching them win games.

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    I agree. But surely this means our players aren't that bad compared to the rest of the NBA.
    That's the problem with the mindset of our society. People always compare to the average or to other people who are lazy, undisciplined or content. Whether it be comparing the average salary for a college graduate vs. non graduate or comparing your life to someone who obviously fell short of their potential. That's why most people end of falling way short of their potential in life -- they've compared their results to the average of society their whole life. Same concept and ideology can be applied with the NBA. " Oh well we aren't that bad compared to the rest of the NBA". all that. Some of us like to compare them to the top two teams in the league and critique them in ways we see they need to improve on in order to get back there.



    It's a great record for a team with so many new additions and rookies. The execution in crunch time has been very good both offensively and defensively a number of times already. Where they've slipped have been cases of underrating an opponent, being careless, not giving effort, being out of shape, etc., which is not due to a lack of talent.

    The Spurs are like 4th favorite for the le and a tier below the best two teams. Their ceiling is likely the second round realistically. I don't see a point to cliff jump because they're not playing like huge favorites. They're not. They're not going to ring unless some 2011 Mavs happens and Kawhi turns into a 2003 Duncan or 2011 Dirk.

    So, yes, it makes me feel good watching them win games.
    They have the same core from last year except instead of Duncan, West, Diaw they have Gasol, Dedmon and Lee. The rest of the core, Kawhi - Aldridge, Green, Parker -- Patty/ Manu and Simmons/ Anderson are the same. It doesn't make me feel great because I see the ingredients during the course of the games that has led to the wins. One piece of advice: Always look in the ingredients before you eat up garbage that tastes good.
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    What comments are you referring to regarding the rest of the team watching the Leonard show?
    Comments to the effect of lack of ball movement/shots and not needing Leonard to think he needs to score 30 every game, among other things. Beyond that, it's little things here and there that give it away, like a wry smile to a "what do you need to do to get (insert player) going?" question.

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    Also consider that the best, somewhat realistic options were Conley, Teague and Hill and they weren't winning a championship with any of them either.
    Injuries aside, Conley has been as good as any point guard not named WestBrick/HarDone. He cooked Choke-P3 in both match-ups even when the Choke-P was the leading MVP candidate & the Cripples were destroying teams.

    Aldridge, Gasol, Parker and Ginobili, have made comments that lead me to believe they're not exactly thrilled watching the Leonard show
    Maybe they should actually hold their own before they open their mouth & complain about ANY of their teammates. (All of them have essentially been outplayed by their backups w/ 15mill Turnobili not being any better than 800K Simmons: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...l#advanced::21 )

    Except it started the season before Aldridge was signed (which you acknowledged by saying '12-'14) and coincided with the offense becoming Leonard oriented.
    You mean the season where everyone was injured & Pop was calling 4-down plays for Tim.

    I love how folks act like Kawhi hijacked the offense like Kirby when in reality Pop put a greater share of the offensive burden on him when Evita/Enrique/Bobo/ ter went out of commission. It's not like Kawhi can't play at an MVP level in a motion offense b/c the 2014 Finals didn't happen.

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    Comments to the effect of lack of ball movement/shots and not needing Leonard to think he needs to score 30 every game, among other things. Beyond that, it's little things here and there that give it away, like a wry smile to a "what do you need to do to get (insert player) going?" question.
    -Porker was also unhappy when Danny was hitting 3s & taking his shine b/c *SURPRISE* players have egos.

    -Softridge left the Blazers b/c his ego couldn't handle playing second fiddle to Lillard

    -Pau left the Lakers then turned down the Spurs b/c he still wanted to be featured in the offense.

    -Manure is a senile old man who STILL wants to be a dynamic playmaker instead of a spotup shooter

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    parker is a much bigger problem than green.

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    Injuries aside, Conley has been as good as any point guard not named WestBrick/HarDone. He cooked Choke-P3 in both match-ups even when the Choke-P was the leading MVP candidate & the Cripples were destroying teams.



    Maybe they should actually hold their own before they open their mouth & complain about ANY of their teammates. (All of them have essentially been outplayed by their backups w/ 15mill Turnobili not being any better than 800K Simmons: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...l#advanced::21 )



    You mean the season where everyone was injured & Pop was calling 4-down plays for Tim.

    I love how folks act like Kawhi hijacked the offense like Kirby when in reality Pop put a greater share of the offensive burden on him when Evita/Enrique/Bobo/ ter went out of commission. It's not like Kawhi can't play at an MVP level in a motion offense b/c the 2014 Finals didn't happen.
    Exactly. Why does a quadro of player with an average of 36 year old demand so much individual gra ude before actually going along with Pops idea.

    These guys arent 20 something star players that deserve coddling. They've played poorly and in no way or form should they be asking for more than just their current roles and responsibilities.

    They're ruining the team chemstiry.

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    Exactly. Why does a quadro of player with an average of 36 year old demand so much individual gra ude before actually going along with Pops idea.

    These guys arent 20 something star players that deserve coddling. They've played poorly and in no way or form should they be asking for more than just their current roles and responsibilities.

    They're ruining the team chemstiry.
    Pop might have to send a couple of them home ala Stephen Jackson.

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    Injuries aside, Conley has been as good as any point guard not named WestBrick/HarDone. He cooked Choke-P3 in both match-ups even when the Choke-P was the leading MVP candidate & the Cripples were destroying teams.



    Maybe they should actually hold their own before they open their mouth & complain about ANY of their teammates. (All of them have essentially been outplayed by their backups w/ 15mill Turnobili not being any better than 800K Simmons: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...l#advanced::21 )



    You mean the season where everyone was injured & Pop was calling 4-down plays for Tim.

    I love how folks act like Kawhi hijacked the offense like Kirby when in reality Pop put a greater share of the offensive burden on him when Evita/Enrique/Bobo/ ter went out of commission. It's not like Kawhi can't play at an MVP level in a motion offense b/c the 2014 Finals didn't happen.

    I know, but Conley was more than likely playing at an unsustainable level (though possible, like Parker, he all of a sudden reached a new level a decade into his career, it's also highly unlikely) and is frail.

    I don't think it's so much complaining as a realization that they're not going to reach their potential that way.

    Yeah, the same Tim who carried Leonard's supposed top five player ass in the playoffs.

    I'm not saying Leonard hijacked the offense on his own volition or is inherently selfish, but the aesthetics started to go by the wayside that season, which coincided with him becoming the featured player.

    MVP level for 3 games, with little creative responsibility, against a team not geared to stop him.


    Leonard is the GOAT and has no flaws.

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    MVP level for 3 games, with little creative responsibility, against a team not geared to stop him.


    You know what teams don't when they don't have the personnel to guard a guy 1-on-1, it's called double-teams.....just ask Doc.

    L.A. coach Doc Rivers sent a double-team at Leonard almost every time he touched the ball on the block.

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    You know what teams don't when they don't have the personnel to guard a guy 1-on-1, it's called double-teams.....just ask Doc.
    We were talking about the '14 Finals.

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    Thank God for our frontline. The backcourt rotation got outscored by 9, and they used one more player

    That said, Patty continues to be solid and Manu had his one good game of the week.

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