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    Coboll? Lol this is 2016. They were hired for many of the same jobs, exactly. They need to be giving AMERICANS in the same position the first priority, once they've all been employed then and ONLY then can they be permitted to look outside the U.S. That should be federal law.
    it's not unusual for Fortune 500 companies to still have a mainframe, but that's beside the point. So, specifically what is it that these people are being hired for? Why are you in the exact same roll? Why is the company hiring a mixture of resident and h1b visa contractors to fulfill demand?

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    it's not unusual for Fortune 500 companies to still have a mainframe, but that's beside the point. So, specifically what is it that these people are being hired for? Why are you in the exact same roll? Why is the company hiring a mixture of resident and h1b visa contractors to fulfill demand?
    same reason the NBA brings in a bunch of eurotrash at the expense of a lot of talented black american basketball players out of college who never make the NBA, but that trend is kind of dying down. It's called free and open global compe ion. Americans need to be federally protected against this practice in the private sector.

    Trump needs to crack down hard on the private sector and impose some stiff regulations such as this and limiting the salary of certain people in companies, most specifically the top 0.01% of people in the company. The CEO might be doing more and more important work than me, but he doesn't deserve $13 million every year compared to my modest five-figure salary -- that's a roughly 260:1 ratio and there's no way in he does 260 times more work than I do. Maybe 20, and that's pushing it.

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    same reason the NBA brings in a bunch of eurotrash at the expense of a lot of talented black american basketball players out of college who never make the NBA, but that trend is kind of dying down. It's called free and open global compe ion. Americans need to be federally protected against this practice in the private sector.
    So you're In favor of giving less qualified people jobs based on thier nationality? And you think there should be federal laws preventing the private sector from hiring the most qualified people in favor of American citizens?

    Wow. Ok. We disagree on a lot of . But .

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    So you're In favor of giving less qualified people jobs based on thier nationality? And you think there should be federal laws preventing the private sector from hiring the most qualified people in favor of American citizens?
    On U.S. soil? Absolutely. The alternative is unpatriotic and globalistic (puke). Socialism as a portion of the economic and regulatory system, to a certain degree, is only sustainable if it is patriotic and centric on protecting its own at the expense of the foreign weak which we keep weak and that is good. Thus, only a nationalist form of socialism can be good. Globalist socialism is the axis of evil.

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    Hopefully Sheriff Clark sends Burqa-Boo to Guantanamo.
    lol that would be the most abysmally qualified nomination for anything i've ever heard of. sheriff clark is famous in right wing circles literally because he's a black cop who criticizes black people/blm. if clark were a white sheriff from milwaukee sayin the exact same thing he wouldn't be nearly as celebrated

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    Only 1.8 million jobs to go...

    “If (Trump) is successful in doing that 804 more times, then he will meet the record number of manufacturing jobs” created during Obama’s eight years in office.

    Earnest went further, saying that the roughly 800,000 jobs he cited were new jobs created under Obama’s watch. He said the president protected “more than a million” additional manufacturing jobs in the Midwest with his bailout of the auto industry.

    “The one difference would be the president-elect is talking about protecting jobs,” he said. “The metric I’m using is actually creating jobs.”
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...r-announcement

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    If you worked in IT for a major fortune 100 or better corporation as I do, and you had to hold your breath and cough all day at the office as I do due to the rotten-curry sewage stench emanating from those filthy, brusque, uncultured, ethnocentric curry s that occupy 70% of the cubicle space in the office instead of rightful and competent Americans BORN IN THE USA, perhaps you'd understand me better instead of parroting.
    I worked as an engineer in the corporate environment for a decade. The Indians I worked with were clean and polite. OTOH, the Americans that I saw coming out of college were both en led and ill prepared yet complained while lacking introspection. Something I see in you.

    I never worried about them taking my job and I have never had issue finding employment since I was recruited out of UT. Sorry that you struggle in a meritocracy.

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    Coboll? Lol this is 2016. They were hired for many of the same jobs, exactly. They need to be giving AMERICANS in the same position the first priority, once they've all been employed then and ONLY then can they be permitted to look outside the U.S. That should be federal law, punishable by prison time for the CEO, firing of all executives and publicization of the business.
    This is pretty ignorant coming from someone who tried telling me like it is as if you had a clue.

    If you know COBOL, CICS, and similar mainframe languages you will make big bucks in many a fortune 500 company who still use mainframes due to the massive costs associated with migrations.

    If you know how to code in C#, Java, HTML, and the like you should have zero issues finding a job in the DFW metroplex. Frankly, if you cannot then the issue is you.

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    I provided context. It is .000007% of total employment. He is the POTUS, not the mayor of Indianapolis.
    You realize we've been at war over about 3000 deaths? There are 300 million in the US. That's .00001%

    Call me when it matters.

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    lol that would be the most abysmally qualified nomination for anything i've ever heard of. sheriff clark is famous in right wing circles literally because he's a black cop who criticizes black people/blm. if clark were a white sheriff from milwaukee sayin the exact same thing he wouldn't be nearly as celebrated
    Don Lemon called..

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    So you're In favor of giving less qualified people jobs based on thier nationality? And you think there should be federal laws preventing the private sector from hiring the most qualified people in favor of American citizens?

    Wow. Ok. We disagree on a lot of . But .
    When companies suckle at the federal teat then they get the "when you live under my roof" speech and that's going to include hiring Americans to save the taxpayer money when the "too big to fail" event happens again.

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    Gotta love Trump. Totally an inspired individual.

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    I provided context. It is .000007% of total employment. He is the POTUS, not the mayor of Indianapolis.
    Actually, he is doing this and he is not even on the job, yet. A little even perspective might be warranted.

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    Bernie Sanders: Carrier just showed corporations how to beat Donald Trump

    President-elect Donald Trump will reportedly announce a deal with United Technologies, the corporation that owns Carrier, that

    keeps less than 1,000 of the 2100 jobs in America that were previously scheduled to be transferred to Mexico.

    Let’s be clear: It is not good enough to save some of these jobs. Trump made a promise that he would save all of these jobs, and we cannot rest until an ironclad contract is signed to ensure that all of these workers are able to continue working in Indiana without having their pay or benefits slashed.

    In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs,

    Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought.

    Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.”

    He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States.

    Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut.

    Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?


    In essence, United Technologies took Trump hostage and won.

    And that should send a shock wave of fear through all workers across the country.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.7cfd737f9d78


    UT extorted tax cut, etc from Trash. aka, The Fart of The Deal



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    Here’s What You Really Need To Know About Trump’s Carrier Deal

    Just for the record, the biggest supplier of working-class and middle class jobs in Indianapolis is not Carrier—or any other heavy manufacturing company. The top ten are Eli Lilly, Indiana University, Purdue University, St. Vincent Hospital, St. Francis Hospital, CNA Financial Group, Methodist Hospital, the Peyton Manning Children's Hospital, Roche Diagnostics, and FedEx.

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...-class-indiana



    Damn, no wonder healthcare costs so much in this country. It employs most of the people!

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    Damn, no wonder healthcare costs so much in this country. It employs most of the people!
    Disease, real or fabricated, is huge driver, like 25% of GDP, of the US economy. America The Beautiful.

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    Bernie Sanders: Carrier just showed corporations how to beat Donald Trump

    President-elect Donald Trump will reportedly announce a deal with United Technologies, the corporation that owns Carrier, that

    keeps less than 1,000 of the 2100 jobs in America that were previously scheduled to be transferred to Mexico.

    Let’s be clear: It is not good enough to save some of these jobs. Trump made a promise that he would save all of these jobs, and we cannot rest until an ironclad contract is signed to ensure that all of these workers are able to continue working in Indiana without having their pay or benefits slashed.

    In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs,

    Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought.

    Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.”

    He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States.

    Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut.

    Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?


    In essence, United Technologies took Trump hostage and won.

    And that should send a shock wave of fear through all workers across the country.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.7cfd737f9d78


    UT extorted tax cut, etc from Trash. aka, The Fart of The Deal


    The Bezos Post making up again. No details have been published.

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    Leave it to Bernie to complain about jobs staying in America. He's just mad that this means less people will be on the government teat.

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    When companies suckle at the federal teat then they get the "when you live under my roof" speech and that's going to include hiring Americans to save the taxpayer money when the "too big to fail" event happens again.
    The conversation wasn't couched in the context of companies receiving government contracts as I have no problem with the Feds attaching strings when doling out tax payer cash.

    But thanks for butting in with your low value and impertinent take.
    Last edited by Th'Pusher; 12-01-2016 at 11:57 AM.

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    The libs will never concede or acknowledge anything positive regarding this administration. They have completely closed the book before it's even been written. It's not unity or correct or reliable or positive unless it's one of them. Get used to it. Even twitter is banning right wing point of views. They're extremely hypocritical and to ignorant to even understand the double standards. It's unreal.
    This will differ from the Republican view of the last 8 years how, exactly?

    President Obama could pronounce the Republican Party the greatest organization in the history of America, and Congressional Republicans would fall all over themselves trying to find some way to say that he was wrong.

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    lol that would be the most abysmally qualified nomination for anything i've ever heard of. sheriff clark is famous in right wing circles literally because he's a black cop who criticizes black people/blm. if clark were a white sheriff from milwaukee sayin the exact same thing he wouldn't be nearly as celebrated
    Damn, you seem to share Pop's racial issues with outspoken black men, tbh. You seem mad that Sherriff Clarke won't shut up and get back on the plantation.

    Sherriff Clarke is almost LeBron-esque in terms of being an important voice for Black America.

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    You realize we've been at war over about 3000 deaths? There are 300 million in the US. That's .00001%

    Call me when it matters.
    False equivalence.

    Call me when you learn logic.

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    The Bezos Post making up again. No details have been published.
    They may be too embarrassed to make public the exact details... and if the deal were so great Trump would already be boasting about how he hardly gave up anything to get it done, but it's really simple... Trump said he would keep jobs in the US by threatening to tax their imports or by actually doing so. He didn't take that approach with Carrier. It's clear that they just gave Carrier tax breaks which is the exact opposite of what he said he would do. And to top it off, it's already been confirmed by Carrier that they're not even keeping all the jobs here.

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    They may be too embarrassed to make public the exact details... and if the deal were so great Trump would already be boasting about how he hardly gave up anything to get it done, but it's really simple... Trump said he would keep jobs in the US by threatening to tax their imports or by actually doing so. He didn't take that approach with Carrier. It's clear that they just gave Carrier tax breaks which is the exact opposite of what he said he would do. And to top it off, it's already been confirmed by Carrier that they're not even keeping all the jobs here.
    Seriously?

    "we don't have any facts so it has to be bad"

    That sounds like the kind of vacuous statement that Boutons would make.

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    Seriously?

    "we don't have any facts so it has to be bad"

    That sounds like the kind of vacuous statement that Boutons would make.
    Trash/Pence very probably spent taxpayer $Ms to save 1000 jobs, could repeat those tax expenditures every year. The jobs will probably end up dying or being exported eventually after UT benefits enough from the deal and then quietly close the factory anyway.

    And probably the deal with come with "no admission of guilt" and the terms will be secret.

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