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Sure the party that loses will always and moan. But the way libs have shown their ass this time around is unprecedented. lol ing about saving jobs.If Pres Trump didn't save those jobs fire would be spit from every lib in America.
No, we do have some facts. It's a fact that the chairman of the Indiana Economic Development Corp has already confirmed publicly that they have given Carrier a tax break incentive package... And that's what I said, that they gave away tax breaks.
Sure the party that loses will always and moan. But the way libs have shown their ass this time around is unprecedented. lol ing about saving jobs.
Dude, you guys threw a ing fit over Obama giving the Queen of England an ipod.
Yeah, I don't know about that. The GOP pretty much decided to fold its arms and pout about anything that President Obama tried to accomplish before he even took office.
I'm not sure anyone is ing about saving jobs, but there are people raising questions about the means by which those jobs were saved. Saving jobs sounds great and I think it's what virtually everyone wants, but it also can't be true that saving jobs by any means would be okay.lol ing about saving jobs.
Suppose for an instant that what Trump offered in order to keep Carrier in Indy was a promise that it could execute 5 of its employees every year for no reason and without consequence, would saving 1,000 jobs be worth that? Obviously, those aren't the terms of this deal, but if deal was that Trump would rollback of regulations that protect worker safety and the result of that is that every year or so, a Carrier employee is killed on the job through conduct that prior regulations would have prohibited, would that still be worthwhile?
Fox News (The only reliable news source in America) did a story about the Bern living in a Hippie Commune in the 60's. Apparently Bernie was so lazy that the pot smoking hippies kicked him out. He was invited several times on the show to refute the story but he refused. Easy to see why Democrats hate Trump, Trump wants to put people to work….
And for Clinton back when her election seemed a formality.
i'm not upset with him speaking out at all. nor do i think his race disqualifies him from his position. i think going from county sheriff to running DHS is such is ridiculous leapDamn, you seem to share Pop's racial issues with outspoken black men, tbh. You seem mad that Sherriff Clarke won't shut up and get back on the plantation.
Sherriff Clarke is almost LeBron-esque in terms of being an important voice for Black America.
i didn't say he should be quiet, im just sayin he wouldn't be nearly as big a conservative folk hero if he was just a white sheriff criticizing black culture
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Hopefully, Mr. Trump will give more details tonight during his victory tour but don't count on it.
Say what? I could not care less about that .
You claimed it was unprecedented. It's pretty much in line with the way conservatives have whined about everything Obama since 2008.
Like I said ing and moaning is common place for the loser. It's the manner in which it's done which is unprecedented. Protesting and blatant lying and violence from the libs all in the name of peace and racism. Lol the libs are the ones causing havoc because they don't know how to lose with grace.
As for the jobs libs instantly came out and on it without even knowing the terms. It's all speculation to support the hate coming from the left. I've never seen such hypocrisy in my life. lol I'm gonna bust out some windows and beat the outta some poor innocent bystander whom I don't even know their political views all in the name of peace.
Carrier deal was a model of how Trump operates: In secret, with good headlines as the ultimate goal
Donald Trump took the time to rail against them on the campaign trail repeatedly.
"Over the years, I've watched, for years, for 10 years, for 12 years, for 15 years, beyond Obama, and I've watched as politicians talked about stopping companies from leaving our states," Trump said.Trump did talk about “retribution” for companies taking jobs overseas. So it seems the choice, at least implicitly, was “take this giant pile of money to only move half as many jobs to Mexico, or the president-elect will hold a grudge come contracts time.”
"Remember, they'd give the low-interest loans.
Here's a low-interest loan if you stay in Pennsylvania.
Here's a zero-interest loan.
You don't have to pay.
Here's a this.
Here's a tax abatement of any kind you want.
We'll help your employees.
It doesn't work, folks.
That's not what they need. They have money.
They want to go out, they want to move to another country, and
because our politicians are so dumb, they want to sell their product to us and not have any retribution, not have any consequence. So all of that's over."
But John Mutz, a former Indiana lieutenant governor who sits on the [Indiana Economic Development Corporation’s] 12-member board, told POLITICO that Carrier turned down a previous offer from IEDC before the election.
He said he thinks the choice is driven by concerns from Carrier’s parent company, United Technologies, that it could lose a portion of its roughly $6.7 billion in federal contracts.
“This deal is no different than other deals that we put together at the IEDC to retain jobs, but the fact is that the difference is that United Technologies depends on the federal government for lots of business,” Mutz said.
“The major factor that’s changed is we had an election,”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1...28Daily+Kos%29
iow, Trash is still a total LIAR and SELF-PROMOTING FRAUD, GRIFTER
so Pence/Trash are handing out corporate welfare paid for by taxpayers. Probably Indiana will see "pay for" budget cuts that affect a larger number of people than the 1000 jobs saved. But Trash got his PR, that's all that counts, no matter who else pays or gets hurt.
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Whining does not compare to literally attacking and inciting violence.
You're talking about a few dumbasses protesting after the election. I'm talking about your entire movement and the outrage at every little thing Obama did. LOL at the entire rightwing media going nuts over a ing ipod or your party refusing to vote on any supreme court nominee for a year.
Actually, the Supreme Court thing looks brilliant now.
It looks like ignoring their cons utional duty.
A few? Alrighty...
I'm not sure when people actually concerning themselves with the details of deals morphed into "hate," but if that's how you need to justify your dismissiveness of those who disagree with you, that's your prerogative.
My point is that you can either assume the details will be unconcerning, which is what Trump supporters are inclined to do, or you can withhold judgment on whether this was a good deal or not until you know what precisely the quid pro quo is. The latter would seem to be a rational way to assess the situation until the details are known. I'm not a particularly big fan of government operating in the public sphere without some degree of transparency, so until I know more, I'll say that I'm hopeful that the deal with Carrier is a good one for the en y and its employees, and for taxpayers.
It looks like a precedent that Republicans will scream about with great indignity when its their ox that is gored.
Just like when the Democrats start filibustering every thing that comes through the senate. Then they'll use it as justification for ending the filibuster rule, which is what the Democrats should have done in 2009.
I know exactly what those employees are going through. Back in the early 90's, I worked at a factory that manufactured vehicle electronics components. We were all told one day that they were moving production to Mexico.
Lmao at ppl crying about this.
Ye jest cant win with these re s. Do nothing like Obama and you a president. Do something like Trump just did and you are doing too much. This country is doomed
By the time we move those jobs back here, they'll be done by robots.
Robots. Mark my words.
Why are liberals so upset about this deal and not about the $1.7 billion in tax incentives that Jerry Moonbeam Brown gave to the entertainment industry to keep them in Hollywood?
http://www.laweekly.com/news/165-bil...-shame-5089371
And how's that worked out for California? Not great. The tax breaks have not created jobs or boosted pay. Other states who tried similar programs found that unemployment actually went down after they got rid of them. Real estate prices and the cost of living in LA continue to be sky-high because of Hollywood, while California continues to have the worst roads in the nation, a failed school system and a massive poverty epidemic.
http://www.laweekly.com/news/tax-bre...es-say-7280500
At least Trump's deal is helping blue-collar working-class Americans keep their jobs and continue to contribute to society in a meaningful way.
"helping blue-collar working-class Americans keep their jobs"
sooner or later, those jobs go to MX.
Trash ridiculed all these kinds of deals in his campaign, see quote above, now he does one.
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