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I already proposed a trade where Sofridge goes to Boston & Bledsoe/Len/Tucker to the Spurs (waive Leprosy/Forbes) while the Suns acquire Smart/Kyle+1st rd pick(s) from Boston: (threw in Amir's expiring for salary matching purposes)
I wouldn't mind seeing Kyle Anderson go... and apart from a crazy trade that involves LA, I don't see anything else happening.
Kyle is the odd man out, we could trade him for an early second round pick.
I already proposed a trade where Sofridge goes to Boston & Bledsoe/Len/Tucker to the Spurs (waive Leprosy/Forbes) while the Suns acquire Smart/Kyle+1st rd pick(s) from Boston: (threw in Amir's expiring for salary matching purposes)
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Brandon Knight is a terrible playmaker for a POINT GUARD that was supposed to be a STARTER. If he was a starting 2-guard then he would be an above average playmaker like Avery Bradley compared to guys like Klay.
Claiming a starting point guards playmaking abilities are better than a wingplayer makes no sense b/c they are judged in relative to players who play the same position. Draymond Green is an above average shooter for PF/C but he would be Andre Roberson status if he was a wing player.
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pending on if chandler can still play.
if chandler can still play i'd take parker + lma for just booker + chandler. the math doesn't work out though.
if it did i'd have no problem with starting booker at PG.
Fat Head has negative trade value:
Jaylen Brown plays the same position as Kawhi.
This year's Spurs have very few trade assets. Realistically, the only tradable contracts ( with positive value ) are Danny's and Patty's and both would leave big holes that would have to be filled. It's unlikely they'd look to trade either, even if they don't think they'd want to pay Patty Tyler Johnson money. They're not moving Gasol, Aldridge or Parker.
It's possible they make a smaller trade, with Jonathon's contract being the most likely, if they don't plan to keep him. Something like Simmons to Philly for Holmes/Thompson/Covington could work but it won't move the needle.
It's interesting whether they'd want to keep their 1st round pick since they already have quite a lot of rookies and have Milutinov in the pipeline too. If they plan to use cap space, in case Gasol opts out, they may not want that contract on the books. On the other hand, decent players on rookie contracts help a lot with the cap management going forward and the 2018 summer projects to be very interesting for the Spurs.
The most likely move, of course, would be waiving Forbes or Lapro or both and adding a buyout vet after the trade deadline.
Anderson and Simmons for Hezonja
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jerzq2t
If we want to go in an entirely different direction
Hezonja has been terrible. He is getting benched by a team that is not that good and invested a high lottery draft pick on him. He's not shooting better than Simmons and doesn't add what either player does on defense or BBIQ. It is a terrible sign that he's not playing for a team with a losing recrod. It's true that he's 21 but he's not better than either player right now and he's shooting 17% from 3 TBH.
Hezonja has some talent, but he also has the Spanoulis syndrome. He thinks he is a lot better than he actually is and playing in the NBA gave him a hint of the cruel reality.
If he doesn't change his mentality, I don't think there's a place for him in SA or anywhere else in the NBA.
In reality that ^ is the only possible move I can see and it's unpredictable right now who could be made available.
I'd love to have Booker, dude is a baller.
pending on if chandler can still play.
This.
Plus it doesn't look like the coach or front office really trust him anymore, at this point they're just desperately trying to get something out of him because he was such a huge investment (just look at some of the names taken after him), but Fournier is a lot better and readier and he's just 1 or 2 years older so he's probably the guy they wanna build around
And it'a a shame, because Mario indeed has talent
Suns would laugh their asses off and hang up immediately at that trade imo
pending on if chandler can still play.
He's stuck on a team that doesn't know how to develop players. Can you name me one guy they've actually developed? He's got much more upside than either Kyle of Jonathan and he's still young enough to reach his potential. I doubt Orlando would give him up for KA and Simmons but, it's the kind of move that helps us long term without giving up on this season ala trading LA.
These trade proposals man.
It's all good though, fans are supposed to have fun. We've all been there.
Is it good ? Is it fair enough for both teams ?
i don't disagree with that.
would've proposed lma + parker for just chandler + booker. math doesn't work out though.
So Knight went from being supposedly too valuable to be a headliner in an Aldridge package to terrible, because that's what Harlem said?
Bledsoe is definitely better, but he's also 2-3 years older, has bad knees and is more reliant on athleticism. If the Spurs medical staff is confident he'll hold up for a while physically, I'd still prefer him, but from the Suns perspective, since this would be a win now move, they'd probably prefer to hang on to their best player, despite on and off rumors of both sides unhappiness with one another.
Whether he'd be a deal breaker for the Spurs or not, would probably depend on how highly they think of whichever of Bender or Chriss they'd be getting, since Knight and Len are more known commodities. If he's in it though, I think Len is out and it becomes just him and one of Bender or Chriss.
Who cares about context though? It's all about whatever is happening in the moment.
Knight has been terrible this season, but it's not difficult to ascertain why: 3rd organization in which he's quickly went from building block to afterthought and probably first time in his life he's been a bench player for an extended period.
Get him in this environment and there's no reason to think he can't get back to the player he was 2 seasons ago, which was solid.
Why are you twissting my words my man. Many Valuable trading assets are terrible players in truth. It's his contract and the fact that hes under 25 that makes him valuable..doesnt excuse him for being a turnover machine.So Knight went from being supposedly too valuable to be a headliner in an Aldridge package to terrible, because that's what Harlem said?
Bledsoe is definitely better, but he's also 2-3 years older, has bad knees and is more reliant on athleticism. If the Spurs medical staff is confident he'll hold up for a while physically, I'd still prefer him, but from the Suns perspective, since this would be a win now move, they'd probably prefer to hang on to their best player, despite on and off rumors of both sides unhappiness with one another.
Whether he'd be a deal breaker for the Spurs or not, would probably depend on how highly they think of whichever of Bender or Chriss they'd be getting, since Knight and Len are more known commodities. If he's in it though, I think Len is out and it becomes just him and one of Bender or Chriss.
Who cares about context though? It's all about whatever is happening in the moment.
Knight has been terrible this season, but it's not difficult to ascertain why: 3rd organization in which he's quickly went from building block to afterthought and probably first time in his life he's been a bench player for an extended period.
Get him in this environment and there's no reason to think he can't get back to the player he was 2 seasons ago, which was solid.
Vucevic.
Oladipo.
Vucevic was good when he got there, his development happened in Philly before the tear down. Oladipo underachieved in Orlando.
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