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    How about this....Clinton won, by a large majority, the counties whom GOPers would classify as 'makers', while Trump won counties that are 'takers'...

    Says a lot about the current state of our country huh?
    Trump won the states and counties that grow our food, produce our energy, and manufacture our goods (or at least used to, before the left went to work on killing manufacturing in this country). Hillary won the urban centers that mostly consume things.

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    That study is full of or Clinton would have won in a landslide.
    Not really. The s that voted for Trump now realize the GOP wants to get rid of their health insurance.

    Suckers.

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    I know you libs are trying to tell yourselves whatever will help you sleep at night after a crushing defeat, but whining about who won the popular vote is pointless and stupid. Both candidates campaigned to win the electoral vote, and Trump won. Plain and simple. If Trump had campaigned to win the popular vote, who's to say that he wouldn't have won that too? But it would've been a completely different campaign strategy than the one he used. It's great news and all that your candidate won the popular. The bad news is that the other candidate didn't even try to win the popular vote. So you're gloating about the final score of a game that never happened.
    It is neither pointless nor stupid.

    It points out the mandate of the American people is thin for any grand sweeping changes.

    I don't for a second doubt that if it had gone the other way you would be saying how important the popular vote is.

    I am fine with the electoral college, Trump won.

    BUT that win comes with a pretty hefty caveat, no matter how much you want it to be otherwise.

    The fact is more people voted for Hillary, period.

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    Not really. The s that voted for Trump now realize the GOP wants to get rid of their health insurance.

    Suckers.
    How could they not know that? Trump constantly campaigned on repealing Obamacare.

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    Did anyone here vote for Trump not knowing he was going to repeal Obamacare if the GOP won the senate? I really doubt it.

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    And Hillary had it, in the bag. Up 5 with like seconds remaining. Don't even bother going to the polls they told us. They were stringing her ropes, there was no way Trump could win, no way the Spurs could lose. They were selling Spurs wampum on the TV, Hillary's magazine on the stands.

    Manoshevitz.

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    That electoral college thingy

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    Trump won the states and counties that grow our food, produce our energy, and manufacture our goods (or at least used to, before the left went to work on killing manufacturing in this country). Hillary won the urban centers that mostly consume things.
    Urban centers produce quite a bit that rural people consume.

    Like food stamps taxes, medicaid taxes, and farm subsidies.

    Sorry, the flow of tax dollars is from cities to rural areas, especially in terms of en lements.

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    I am fine with the electoral college, Trump won.
    I'm not fine with the electoral college, it flies in the face of the idea that votes should matter and count equally, the same as having a senate does. The fact you can lose an election when you got 2% more votes than the other guy shows how absurd the electoral college is. It's not like this was a small margin like 2000 when Gore barely won the popular vote and Bush barely won the electoral vote. Clinton pretty decisively won the popular vote and Trump pretty decisively the electoral vote. That the two could be so strongly divorced shows pretty clearly how unrepresentative our elections are.

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    Instead Ohio and Florida get to.
    Until Texas turns with the inevitable tide of demographics, that this election won't do anything to stem.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpo...ed-in-2-charts

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...uld-finish-gop

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    And Hillary had it, in the bag. Up 5 with like seconds remaining. Don't even bother going to the polls they told us. They were stringing her ropes, there was no way Trump could win, no way the Spurs could lose. They were selling Spurs wampum on the TV, Hillary's magazine on the stands.

    Manoshevitz.
    ing Clinton, what a piece of . She acted like the ing election was over two weeks before. She was so overconfident and started going after Arizona and Georgia to try to landslide an election she hadn't won. And then Trump doesn't even have the decency to lock her up.

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    Until Texas turns with the inevitable tide of demographics, that this election won't do anything to stem.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpo...ed-in-2-charts

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...uld-finish-gop
    Why is this looked at as some kind of inevitability? Latinos don't vote straight Democrat like blacks do.

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    Until Texas turns with the inevitable tide of demographics, that this election won't do anything to stem.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpo...ed-in-2-charts

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...uld-finish-gop
    Must suck having to replace the electorate with a new one because the current one hates your party.

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    ing Clinton, what a piece of . She acted like the ing election was over two weeks before. She was so overconfident and started going after Arizona and Georgia to try to landslide an election she hadn't won. And then Trump doesn't even have the decency to lock her up.
    She wanted that House so bad she could taste it. Go in there and plant her big fat ass.

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    Must suck having to replace the electorate with a new one because the current one hates your party.
    Fair cop, actually.

    Democrats need to do better among whites.

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    The fact is more people voted for Hillary, period.

    That's great. Happy for ya. But like I said before, you're gloating about the final score of a game that was never played.

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    ing Clinton, what a piece of . She acted like the ing election was over two weeks before. She was so overconfident and started going after Arizona and Georgia to try to landslide an election she hadn't won. And then Trump doesn't even have the decency to lock her up.

    This is partially the media's doing dude. Every poll had her up, supposedly she was tied, or up in states like FL and OH. Polls had her supposedly winning , MI,WI and PA with ease. Prior to the election according to media, pollsters, etc, there was absolutely no way Trump could win. He needed to much stuff to fall into place. The media, and obviously Hillary and her campaign failed to take into account the millions of Bernie supporters who either voted 3rd party or just stayed home. I do blame Hillary for running a pretty lazy/lackluster campaign, but the media had their hand in this too. And for whatever reason I had a REALLY bad feeling going into election night. I didn't even bother to watch any of the coverage in 2012, I knew it was in the bag for Obama. This time around all the emails, DNC cheating of Bernie supposedly, Podesta,Comney,the out right hatred of Hillary, I just had a weird feeling that it would be close. I still didn't think he would flip 3 blue states. Not even in my worst case scenario electoral map models did I have that happen.

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    This is partially the media's doing dude. Every poll had her up, supposedly she was tied, or up in states like FL and OH. Polls had her supposedly winning , MI,WI and PA with ease. Prior to the election according to media, pollsters, etc, there was absolutely no way Trump could win. He needed to much stuff to fall into place. The media, and obviously Hillary and her campaign failed to take into account the millions of Bernie supporters who either voted 3rd party or just stayed home. I do blame Hillary for running a pretty lazy/lackluster campaign, but the media had their hand in this too. And for whatever reason I had a REALLY bad feeling going into election night. I didn't even bother to watch any of the coverage in 2012, I knew it was in the bag for Obama. This time around all the emails, DNC cheating of Bernie supposedly, Podesta,Comney,the out right hatred of Hillary, I just had a weird feeling that it would be close. I still didn't think he would flip 3 blue states. Not even in my worst case scenario electoral map models did I have that happen.
    When averaged the polls were only like 2 points off, that's pretty standard in a presidential election. The media was stupid because they kept acting like Trump had to win a sequence of independent coinflips to win the presidency when the states were very much correlated. Nate Silver kept arguing this over and over when talking about how fragile Clinton's leads were, how a two point swing could doom her, and that's what happened. I'll chalk it up to the media being ignorant as to when random variables are independent or not.

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    Yeah that got extremely complacent in states like PA and Michigan.

    Unbelievably so, seem as how Bernie beat the out of her in Michigan. You would think she'd get the message the first time.

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    I'm not fine with the electoral college, it flies in the face of the idea that votes should matter and count equally, the same as having a senate does. The fact you can lose an election when you got 2% more votes than the other guy shows how absurd the electoral college is. It's not like this was a small margin like 2000 when Gore barely won the popular vote and Bush barely won the electoral vote. Clinton pretty decisively won the popular vote and Trump pretty decisively the electoral vote. That the two could be so strongly divorced shows pretty clearly how unrepresentative our elections are.
    that wasn't the deal when all the states signed on, many of them wouldn't have joined the union just to have California dictate to them. The system gives the smaller states a voice. Like I said, I'll fight to leave before those psychopaths in California run my life

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    This is partially the media's doing dude. Every poll had her up, supposedly she was tied, or up in states like FL and OH. Polls had her supposedly winning , MI,WI and PA with ease. Prior to the election according to media, pollsters, etc, there was absolutely no way Trump could win. He needed to much stuff to fall into place. The media, and obviously Hillary and her campaign failed to take into account the millions of Bernie supporters who either voted 3rd party or just stayed home. I do blame Hillary for running a pretty lazy/lackluster campaign, but the media had their hand in this too. And for whatever reason I had a REALLY bad feeling going into election night. I didn't even bother to watch any of the coverage in 2012, I knew it was in the bag for Obama. This time around all the emails, DNC cheating of Bernie supposedly, Podesta,Comney,the out right hatred of Hillary, I just had a weird feeling that it would be close. I still didn't think he would flip 3 blue states. Not even in my worst case scenario electoral map models did I have that happen.
    Dont be stupid, she knew what her own internal polling numbers said

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    sucks to be Hillary, finally.
    she SUCKS AS A PERSON and A ELECTED OFFICIAL

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    thought California wanted to leave usa
    if they did I bet trump would have won the popular vote by millions
    California another country littary

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    Let those pinko s leave

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