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    That last shot was with one foot inside the 3P line. If he took that at the buzzer, because that's all they could get, it would be one thing. He either makes it, or they go to OT. But to take a low-percentage shot with that much time left on the game clock, so that even if he makes it, they still have a chance to tie or win? That's not a good basketball decision. The shot went in, and that's what clutch is all about, I guess. But it's still a really bad basketball decision.

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    Tiny sample size alert......but it

    Spurs forward Kawhi Leonard has now made 3 of his last 4 potential go-ahead shots in the final 10 seconds of the 4th quarter or overtime, including Friday against the Wizards. Leonard is 4-of-8 on those shots for his career. The NBA field-goal percentage on those shots over the last 5 seasons is 25%.

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    That last shot was with one foot inside the 3P line. If he took that at the buzzer, because that's all they could get, it would be one thing. He either makes it, or they go to OT. But to take a low-percentage shot with that much time left on the game clock, so that even if he makes it, they still have a chance to tie or win? That's not a good basketball decision. The shot went in, and that's what clutch is all about, I guess. But it's still a really bad basketball decision.
    Well, it's on pop then. I guarantee that was the play that was drawn up.

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    That last shot was with one foot inside the 3P line. If he took that at the buzzer, because that's all they could get, it would be one thing. He either makes it, or they go to OT. But to take a low-percentage shot with that much time left on the game clock, so that even if he makes it, they still have a chance to tie or win? That's not a good basketball decision. The shot went in, and that's what clutch is all about, I guess. But it's still a really bad basketball decision.

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    That last shot was with one foot inside the 3P line. If he took that at the buzzer, because that's all they could get, it would be one thing. He either makes it, or they go to OT. But to take a low-percentage shot with that much time left on the game clock, so that even if he makes it, they still have a chance to tie or win? That's not a good basketball decision. The shot went in, and that's what clutch is all about, I guess. But it's still a really bad basketball decision.
    He took the shot b/c he got what he wanted: a clean look at his sweet spot. Had he held the ball then he would have been taking a contested 20 footer w/ a defender draped all over him.

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    He took the shot b/c he got what he wanted: a clean look at his sweet spot. Had he held the ball then he would have been taking a contested 20 footer w/ a defender draped all over him.

    If he takes a shot at the buzzer, even if it's a contested 20-footer, the worst that could happen is OT. Road teams, especially weak road teams, look to go for the 3P to win - and Beal/Wall hadn't missed a 3-pointer between them. I'd much rather have the game come down to an OT at home, than a single shot.

    It was a bad basketball decision to take that shot. The Spurs were fortunate.

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    If he takes a shot at the buzzer, even if it's a contested 20-footer, the worst that could happen is OT. Road teams, especially weak road teams, look to go for the 3P to win - and Beal/Wall hadn't missed a 3-pointer between them. I'd much rather have the game come down to an OT at home, than a single shot.

    It was a bad basketball decision to take that shot. The Spurs were fortunate.
    DPOY was confident his team could get ONE stop which is why he took the best shot possible.

    There is no telling what might happen in OT since it's a 5 minute period & Wall was getting into the paint at will.

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    Career clutch Stats (Finals 4 minutes + OT):

    Carmelo: http://bkref.com/tiny/oq5B6

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    Kawhi: http://bkref.com/tiny/av4pb

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    That last shot was with one foot inside the 3P line. If he took that at the buzzer, because that's all they could get, it would be one thing. He either makes it, or they go to OT. But to take a low-percentage shot with that much time left on the game clock, so that even if he makes it, they still have a chance to tie or win? That's not a good basketball decision. The shot went in, and that's what clutch is all about, I guess. But it's still a really bad basketball decision.
    The thread isn't led "Kawhi "Carmelo" Leonard is the smartest regular season player."

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    Career clutch Stats (Finals 4 minutes + OT):

    Carmelo: http://bkref.com/tiny/oq5B6

    vs.

    Kawhi: http://bkref.com/tiny/av4pb
    Their postseason accomplishments as the no. 1 option are right on par with each other also.

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    The thread isn't led "Kawhi "Carmelo" Leonard is the smartest regular season player."

    LOL... fair enough. I got nothing to say to that.

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    DPOY was confident his team could get ONE stop which is why he took the best shot possible.

    There is no telling what might happen in OT since it's a 5 minute period & Wall was getting into the paint at will.
    When you say most clutch regular season player, do you mean this week? Last 5 games? on a roster that features Softridge and Gashole as the second and third best options on the team? You didn't finish your sentence.

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    When you say most clutch regular season player, do you mean this week? Last 5 games? on a roster that features Softridge and Gashole as the second and third best options on the team? You didn't finish your sentence.
    Someone can think what Kawhi does is even greater having those two players who don't make his life easier and don't draw that much attention in the last seconds.

    For this regular seasos and his career.

    Spurs forward Kawhi Leonard has now made 3 of his last 4 potential go-ahead shots in the final 10 seconds of the 4th quarter or overtime, including Friday against the Wizards. Leonard is 4-of-8 on those shots for his career. The NBA field-goal percentage on those shots over the last 5 seasons is 25%.
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    I'd much rather have the game come down to an OT at home, than a single shot.
    Really?? I'd rather see Kawhi take a clean shot instead of losing in OT. It seems that you forget that this is the same team who lost to Orlando at home.

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    If he takes a shot at the buzzer, even if it's a contested 20-footer, the worst that could happen is OT. Road teams, especially weak road teams, look to go for the 3P to win - and Beal/Wall hadn't missed a 3-pointer between them. I'd much rather have the game come down to an OT at home, than a single shot.

    It was a bad basketball decision to take that shot. The Spurs were fortunate.
    This is simple and accurate. He left too much time on the clock. Giving the other team an opportunity to win is never the best option. Great shot, but doesnt change it was a bad decision to shoot so early.

    When given the choice of the other team having a shot to win or not, it should be an easy call. Not sure why people are trying to argue against you.

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    Not sure why people are trying to argue against you.
    Because he said "I'd much rather have the game come down to an OT at home, than a single shot."

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    Lol It doesn't surprise me who made this thread.. tbh.. and he couldn't be more clueless.

    There's no such thing as a clutch player. There's no such thing as a " clutch gene". Such a big myth that average fans eat up.

    Players are who they are. Great players will have the ball in the hands late in the games, and in the long run (with a large sample size), the averages will be right around the season averages ( players are who they are). The percentages regress to the mean as the sample size increases. There's confidence, but there's not clutch. And every NBA player that's in the game late has confidence with the aspects they do well. Whether it be Steve Kerr shooting a 3, or Tony Parker driving in the lane. They've done it their whole career, and in the long run, they will miss some and make some, right around their averages if you're just patient enough to see the sample size grow.

    Is Skip Bayless the OP?

    How or why do people still believe clutch is a thing?

    There's several articles that will make you feel stupid if you are like Skip Bayless and believe in clutch or a clutch gene. Please read any of these links.. these are just a few examples.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...ce-and-for-all

    https://cornerthree.net/2014/03/10/does-clutch-exist/

    http://www.sbnation.com/2014/1/8/528...d-random-chaos
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    Never seen more annoying people blaming the best player on the team for making a big shot...than these guys here.

    'But but I'd rather PLAY OT instead of him making that shot'

    'But but he is NOT clutch, players are what they are'


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    Never seen more annoying people blaming the best player on the team for making a big shot...than these guys here.

    'But but I'd rather PLAY OT instead of him making that shot'

    'But but he is NOT clutch, players are what they are'

    There is no such thing as a clutch player. If you think there is, then you have selective memory and only remember makes late in the game.

    Keep watching Skip Bayless.

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    There is no such thing as a clutch player. If you think there is, then you have selective memory and only remember makes late in the game.

    Keep watching Skip Bayless.
    Yeah...I wonder why for some strange reason people remember the shots make late in the game....

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