2.5 million votes and counting

[baseline bum]

that wasn't the deal when all the states signed on, many of them wouldn't have joined the union just to have California dictate to them. The system gives the smaller states a voice. Like I said, I'll fight to leave before those psychopaths in California run my life

Letting California votes count equates to California dictating to them.

Many of the states wouldn't have joined the union had they known the union would take their slaves away also.

[Clipper Nation]

California's votes do count. It's not like they're all ignored or thrown out. They also get more electoral votes than any other state. What they don't get to do is dominate what's supposed to be a 50-state political process damn near all by themselves.

[Axl Rose]

California's votes do count. It's not like they're all ignored or thrown out. They also get more electoral votes than any other state. What they don't get to do is dominate what's supposed to be a 50-state political process damn near all by themselves.

This. Just ignore the communist sympathizer, his takes and opinions should only be regarded as satire

[DMC]

thought California wanted to leave usa
if they did I bet trump would have won the popular vote by millions
California another country littary

I was in Canada all week, nary a one of them showed up and here I was ready with coffee enemas and lypo.

[baseline bum]

This. Just ignore the communist sympathizer, his takes and opinions should only be regarded as satire

Your boy agrees the electoral college is a piece of

[ducks]

It might be but trump would have ran different if he had to win popular vote
Did not and he heavenly campaigned in 15 states

[Mitch]

Your boy agrees the electoral college is a piece of

He's technically right: It's a disaster for democracy, The US is a cons utional republic

[Axl Rose]

He's technically right: It's a disaster for democracy, The US is a cons utional republic

This, why do liberals have such a hard time with this

[boutons_deux]

so for you rightwingnutjob kicking Trash fellators, there's a conflict, incompatibility between democracy and a cons utional republic?

[Axl Rose]

They're two different systems dumb

[baseline bum]

He's technically right: It's a disaster for democracy, The US is a cons utional republic

This, why do liberals have such a hard time with this

lol that spin

[Axl Rose]

It's not spin you just don't understand the basic differences between the two systems. We're not and have never been governed by a mob rule popular vote, I thought liberals were supposed to be educated. Liberal arts doesn't require basic government courses anymore or what

[boutons_deux]

We're not and have never been governed by a mob rule popular vote

The FFs foresaw, had seen?, the power of demagogues to con people and grab power.

The electoral college was supposed provide more "sage" electors, less susceptible to demagoguery, to prevent a demagogue like Don The Con from grabbing power. That's why there's no Cons utional requirement binding electors to voters.

Nice try, but obviously a lying, cheating, fraudulent, racist, bigoted, xenophobic, misogynistic, crooked, lying demagogue grabbed the WH anyway. And it's all on you assholes.

[baseline bum]

It's not spin you just don't understand the basic differences between the two systems. We're not and have never been governed by a mob rule popular vote, I thought liberals were supposed to be educated. Liberal arts doesn't require basic government courses anymore or what

Doubling down on your spin

Your boy ed about the electoral college.

[Axl Rose]

Doubling down on your spin

Your boy ed about the electoral college.

Trump isn't a demagogue who can do or say no wrong, he also wasn't a politician in 2012. Doesn't change anything about what we were just discussing before you shifted the discussion to trumps personal 2012 opinion. The popular vote doesn't and has never meant in our cons utional republic

[baseline bum]

Trump isn't a demagogue who can do or say no wrong, he also wasn't a politician in 2012. Doesn't change anything about what we were just discussing before you shifted the discussion to trumps personal 2012 opinion. The popular vote doesn't and has never meant in our cons utional republic

I agree with Trump that the electoral college is a piece of .

[Axl Rose]

I agree with Trump that the electoral college is a piece of .

Well then move to a country with a liberal democracy

[baseline bum]

Well then move to a country with a liberal democracy

Because I agree with the president?

[Mitch]

lol that spin

not understanding the difference between democracy and republic

[baseline bum]

not understanding the difference between democracy and republic

I understand it. LOL trying to claim that's what Trump meant.

[johnsmith]

This might be my favorite thread ever in this forum.....lol!

[Mitch]

I understand it. LOL trying to claim that's what Trump meant.

Thinking a billionare who trolled the media like it's a past time means something else.

[mavsfan1000]

Obamacare is such a ripoff.

[mavsfan1000]

Trump will make Insurance great again.

[spurraider21]

California's votes do count. It's not like they're all ignored or thrown out. They also get more electoral votes than any other state. What they don't get to do is dominate what's supposed to be a 50-state political process damn near all by themselves.

an individual's vote in ohio is way more important than an individual's vote in california. individual vote in stronghold states are virtually meaningless. that's not unique to blue states.