RG getting his intellectually dishonest game on!
I actually generally agreed with your point. The intake is moved outside of what is likely to be in any affected area of a spill from the pipeline.
As for moving the goalposts, that is not accurate.
I am merely exploring what damage to water tables is possible from a large hydrocarbon spill, which is entirely relevant. You don't like it because the consideration of groundwater wells wasn't something that fits into your narrative.
That is called confirmation bias, by the way.
Again, I would agree to a point. There are a few radical environmentalists that oppose a lot of things for stupid reasons.
This however, doesn't make moderates wrong when it comes to pushing for more renewables in our energy mix.
We should be shifting to renewables to avoid the negative externalities of fossil fuel burning.
I guess. You will note that my question about eating a fish caught in that river went unanswered. Why do you think that is?RG getting his intellectually dishonest game on!
Too oily?
Glad you agree that the protesters are lying about their drinking water.
"Moderates" aren't the type of peoole going to Standing Rock and throwing a big hissyfit, let's be real now. Sane environmentalists would realize that we don't live in an oil-free utopia, and they'd support pipelines as a safer way of transporting the oil we need than any of the alternatives.
Hakuna Matata and all that
Long live standing rock and its holy protectors.
Yet yall seem to want them to run the healthcare system.
3500 holy US veterans have just arrived at standing rock
Ready to leave it all on the line for the protection of the protestors
Amazing stuff
This is historic. Long live standing rock and its holy protectors
How Did Police From All Over the Country End Up at Standing Rock?
A Clinton-era directive used mainly for natural disaster relief has drawn in law enforcement from faraway states.
Police departments from 24 counties and 16 cities in 10 different states (including North Dakota) have poured into Standing Rock,
It's rare for police forces to cross state lines to handle problems in neighboring places, much less travel more than 1,500 miles to respond to protests, as the St. Charles Parish (Louisiana) Sheriff's Department has.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/12/standing-rock-police-militarized-emergency-management-assistance-compact-north-dakota
One girl lost an arm from a grenade shot by the goons.
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We won
The celebration ceremony will be magnificent
Looks like these crybabies and shameless liars got their way. Now the reservation gets stuck with the LESS safe and LESS environmentally friendly option of transporting all that oil by train even longer.
Does Soros own the train routes?
Actually, Warren Buffett does:Does Soros own the train routes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNSF_Railway
And that's the real reason why the left opposes pipelines - in order to prop up the railroad company that one of their biggest multibillionaire donors owns.
A tiny central North Dakota town has been evacuated after the derailment of an oil train.
The incident displaced residents of Heimdal, sheriff's officials told local media. The accident involved a BNSF Railway train with 109 cars, five of which were burning. Six to seven cars derailed and the cause of the event is unknown, according to officials.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/05/06/north...n-derails.html
Nice job, liberals! This is what North Dakota residents will have to keep dealing with because of your crybaby fit. Now all the protesters can go back to their cushy suburban lives and Warren Buffett can count his money while small-town North Dakotans live in fear of losing everything.
Yeah. I teed that one up for you. I'm surprised you hadn't mentioned it yet.
Signs Of A Creepy Government Conspiracy At Standing Rock
We met carload after carload of those volunteers, and the critical supplies they brought to camp, like firewood and things to wipe your butt with that isn't firewood. Talking to these people, we heard variations of the phrase "I wouldn't be here if it weren't for Facebook." Which is both awe-inspiring and cartoonishly surreal. And now, keeping in mind everything I've told you so far, here's where things get crazy. Like, "too far-fetched for a movie" crazy ...
Modern mobile communications were instrumental to the most formidable protest and revolutionary movements of this century so far, from Egypt's Tahrir uprisings to Greece's Movement of the Squares. Governments always have weapons -- the people only have each other, and occasionally Molotov tails. That's why the Egyptian government tried to fight the protests in 2011 by cutting off the entire nation's internet access, and why Turkey's new sorta-dictator Recep Tayyip Erdogan attempted to block Twitter access in his country.
So maybe it's not surprising that someone is trying to kick Standing Rock off the internet.
(And yes, we've got evidence to back us up. None of this is loopy conspiracy talk.)
We first encountered the idea through hearsay, via a man we met at the big camp, in a large tent filled with U.S. military veterans. He'd been a 25 Bravo in the Army -- an information technology specialist. He was the first to allege that the planes flying over were equipped with what he called "scramblers," which "fed white noise into the cell signals" to interfere with internet access at Standing Rock and "keep information from getting out."
"The moment you hit this camp from the highway, the signal goes to [nothing]." He added that, "People are reporting their cellphones are turning on, their [apps] are turning on, their battery is draining." In any other situation, we'd have been prepared to write this off as the world's lamest campfire story. It's the kind of story you'd expect to be followed up with "totally real" pictures of Bigfoot or something. But ...
We ran into similar strange rumors across camp for the next couple of days. People from every corner, whether they had been on site for days or for months, would talk about their cellphone signals cutting out just as drones circled above. Mobiles would switch themselves off and on again -- not in pocket but in hand. Camera apps were opened out of nowhere, and batteries would drain by enormous percentages, killing the phones in minutes, rather than the steady decline of any device pinging back and forth searching for a signal. There were even reports of people's Gmail accounts being hacked.
use special planes to steal data and block internet access at Standing Rock?
In a word, "yes." In eight words, "Oh ing , the government has internet-stealing Cessnas!"
We brought all this -- the cell-blocking and reports of weird phone activity -- up to Marc Rogers, a security expert and white-hat hacker who, among other things, advises the show Mr. Robot. He wasn't sure what was going on at Standing Rock, but noted a device called a "Stingray" might be the culprit.
http://www.cracked.com/personal-expe...onspiracy.html
America is ed and un able. The militarized police state goons, working for BigCorp, will everybody on command.
^ Bou s showing his support for Warren Buffett, the epitome of "BigCorp."
so what does that say about the energy-invested brothers actively funding the gop as they for some odd unrelated reasons are desperately trying to undermine and discredit scientific consensus?
You weren't complaining when the government was doing similar at the Malhuer reserve.
Symbolic Victory for the lame-duck Obama administration....
...but what took so long?
Bou s and Buffett, shoulder to shoulder.
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