NBA: Could ST be wrong about Klay Thompson

[DMC]

Which goes back to the root of why he shouldt even be considered a top 15 player. He only does one thing at an Elite level and thats shooting. He would get exposed without legit playmakers because he cant score out of Iso, he cant dribble, he cant run Pick and Rolls etc.

He's one dimensional player that isnt evem the fourth defender in his team.

Not even a top 20 player.

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To all those that are propping up Klaynus. If you can't see the huge, glaring difference with how one guy gets his points compared to the other I don't know what to tell y'all sons. Y'all just aren't very smart if you can't see it. Basically in the same group as all the re s that glorified Kirby's chucking.

Klay is elite off the ball getting to his spots and as a cutter. I haven't seen this video, but if you watch Bballbreakdowns breakdown of his 60 point game, a lot of his scores came from great cuts to the basket and him being able to get his shot off even with a hand in his face... had nothing to do with KD and Curry. Most of the time he was receiving passes from the big man(Zara).

Only two instances I can remember where having Curry and KD helped him that game and one was an insane one handed pass Curry got to him in transition for three and one where he drove to the basket and Curry/KD gravity made the help come late so he got FTs. Other than that he "created" his own points that game by being an elite shooter and cutter.

Obviously he's not being guarded by the team's best defender, but still impressive nonetheless. I don't remember Kawhi being guarded by the other team's best defender when LeBron and Sefalosha used to guard TP, so whatever.

[apalisoc_9]

Back to Emojis...Dude, you're the first PROVEN fatass on this board. You shouldbt have the will to even laugh.

[DMC]

Back to Emojis...Dude, you're the first PROVEN fatass on this board. You shouldbt have the will to even laugh.

Pinoyta! Watch it fall apart.

[FkLA]

Klay is elite off the ball getting to his spots and as a cutter. I haven't seen this video, but if you watch Bballbreakdowns breakdown of his 60 point game, a lot of his scores came from great cuts to the basket and him being able to get his shot off even with a hand in his face... had nothing to do with KD and Curry. Most of the time he was receiving passes from the big man(Zara).

Only two instances I can remember where having Curry and KD helped him that game and one was an insane one handed pass Curry got to him in transition for three and one where he drove to the basket and Curry/KD gravity made the help come late so he got FTs. Other than that he "created" his own points that game by being an elite shooter and cutter.

Obviously he's not being guarded by the team's best defender, but still impressive nonetheless. I don't remember Kawhi being guarded by the other team's best defender when LeBron and Sefalosha used to guard TP, so whatever.

Does Klay average 60 ppg or something? Does he average 37 pp quarter? He averaged 22 ppg last year. Will probably average around the same this year.

And it's not about direct assists from KD or Steph. It's about the fact that they're the ones initiating the offense. Forcing defenses to collapse, to scramble to help, drawing double teams. That's a big part of being a No. 1...you make easier for your role players. Klaynus doesn't do that. He is one of the role players benefitting from others playmaking. 85% of his FGs are assisted, no other star swingman is over 50%. Let that sink in.

[DMC]

Yeah, Klay just stands around.

[DAF86]

lol ok

wat

Go check all the defensive metrics and get back at me. Durant is top 5 among SF and top 30 overall. Klay doesn't even appear on the top 40 SG (he's behind James Har_en ).

I don't know where this perception of Klay Thompson being anything more than an average defender came but it just isn't truth. Durant on the other hand is very underrated on that end and when engaged he can become a lockdown perimeter defender as well as a terrific rim protector. Anyone that watches games with a couple of functional eyes can realize that Durant >>>>>>>> Thompson on D.

[DMC]

James Harden might be Kawhi ing Leonard if he engages but we know better.

[DAF86]

James Harden might be Kawhi ing Leonard if he engages but we know better.

The thing is that even without engaging KD is still >>>>>> Thompson on D.

[FkLA]

Yeah, Klay just stands around.

Nobody is saying that he literally stays glued to one spot, idiot. Danny Green and Patty Mills run to open spots too.

Also, I can't seem to get an answer. Does Klaynus average 60 ppg? 37 pp quarter?

[FkLA]

DMC: 'Your'e complaining cause Kawhi has to create his own shots.'
FkLA: 'Who says players don't create their own shots in the post?'
DMC: *runs away from the question*

DMC: 'Kawhi is a mediocre offensive player.'
FkLA: 'Who do you consider a scorer? How do you rank them? Why is Klaynus a better scorer if he averages less points?'
DMC: *runs away from the question*

DMC: 'Klaynus blows him away as a No. 1. We've seen it.'
FkLA: When have we seen it? Scoring 60 once is your proof?
DMC: *runs away from the question*

[apalisoc_9]

Go check all the defensive metrics and get back at me. Durant is top 5 among SF and top 30 overall. Klay doesn't even appear on the top 40 SG (he's behind James Har_en ).

I don't know where this perception of Klay Thompson being anything more than an average defender came but it just isn't truth. Durant on the other hand is very underrated on that end and when engaged he can become a lockdown perimeter defender as well as a terrific rim protector. Anyone that watches games with a couple of functional eyes can realize that Durant >>>>>>>> Thompson on D.

Durant is basically playing Center for them

[DMC]

Nobody is saying that he literally stays glued to one spot, idiot. Danny Green and Patty Mills run to open spots too.

Also, I can't seem to get an answer. Does Klaynus average 60 ppg? 37 pp quarter?

Did Kobe average 81ppg? Did Gervin average 33 a quarter?

Don't be a bigger bag than you already are, Paco.

[DMC]

DMC: 'Your'e complaining cause Kawhi has to create his own shots.'
FkLA: 'Who says players don't create their own shots in the post?'
DMC: *runs away from the question*

DMC: 'Kawhi is a mediocre offensive player.'
FkLA: 'Who do you consider a scorer? How do you rank them? Why is Klaynus a better scorer if he averages less points?'
DMC: *runs away from the question*

DMC: 'Klaynus blows him away as a No. 1. We've seen it.'
FkLA: When have we seen it? Scoring 60 once is your proof?
DMC: *runs away from the question*

When has KL ever scored even 40?

Usain Bolt doesn't average his top speed. You just didn't get good engineering training to think top = average.

[DMC]

The thing is that even without engaging KD is still >>>>>> Thompson on D.

You're an idiot. Even without engaging.

Goddamn I have plowed the fields on this ing farm. Plowed them I say.

[FkLA]

Did Kobe average 81ppg? Did Gervin average 33 a quarter?

Don't be a bigger bag than you already are, Paco.

Oh, you mean that guys averaged more than 30 ppg several times in their careers and didn't depend on others to get them shots?

Yeah, lets compare them to a guy who hasn't averaged 23 ppg once and who has 85% of his FGs assisted.

When has KL ever scored even 40?

Usain Bolt doesn't average his top speed. You just didn't get good engineering training to think top = average.

Wow, so you literally are using one 60 point outburst as your argument. Jesus you are dumb.

So Klaynus' once a year outburst is more explosive than Kawhi's. Who gives a ? He also has a lot more games than Kawhi were he looks pedestrian on the offensive end. Bolt averages times that destroys the compe ion in the 100m/200m. Klaynus averages 22 ppg. Stop with the re ed comparisons.

[whitemamba]

You're an idiot. Even without engaging.

Goddamn I have plowed the fields on this ing farm. Plowed them I say.

Sup DMC? Or should I say WarrenG...

[DMC]

Sup DMC? Or should I say WarrenG...

Can a player play?

[FkLA]

You're an idiot. Even without engaging.

Goddamn I have plowed the fields on this ing farm. Plowed them I say.

You're really revealing yourself as a huge idiot in this thread. I actually never realized how dumb you are. I figured you were just being too much of a loud, pompous asshole to take an L but nah you're just dumb.

He literally told you to go look at any defensive metric. What he meant was that he might not be a shutdown defender night in and night out (bc he's not always engaged enough to be one), but his defensive efforts are still better than Klaynus'. The numbers show that.

[DMC]

You're really revealing yourself as a huge idiot in this thread. I actually never realized how dumb you are. I figured you were just being too much of a loud, pompous asshole to take an L but nah you're just dumb.

He literally told you to go look at any defensive metric. What he meant was that he might not be a shutdown defender night in and night out (bc he's not always engaged enough to be one), but his defensive efforts are still better than Klaynus'. The numbers show that.

The wall can't come fast enough.

es keep knocking at my gotdamn door.. keep coming back for it. Go away ho.

[FkLA]

The wall can't come fast enough.

es keep knocking at my gotdamn door.. keep coming back for it. Go away ho.

Dunning–Kruger Effect

a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive incapacity, on the part of those with low ability, to recognize their inep ude and evaluate their competence accurately

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DMC taking Ls ITT tbh

[apalisoc_9]

DMC taking Ls ITT tbh

He's the only legit guy in the website that has proven to be a giant fatso..I think he's taken more L in life.

[djohn2oo8]

No you dumbass. Cobsistancy is what makes an offense.

When you are a 24ppg guy with less than half of your points unassisted, it means you work to get your points. Not to mention he actually runs the pick and roll for his team with virtually limited gravity from his teamates.

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Really think you don't understand what makes a scorer. Kawhi can't score as easily as Klay, that's why Kawhi's FG% has gone down from last year with more attempts so far this year...And if we look at it, Klay is a better scorer.

3pt %
Klay: 39% ( BTW, Klay has shot better from 3 every season except one, nothing to do with assists. Klay is just a better shooter.)
Kawhi: 38%

Advantage Klay, and for their careers it's Klay as well.

2Pt FG% 2016

Klay: 55%
Kawhi: 49%

This year, advantage Klay. Kawhi's 2pt % has gone down with more shot attempts from last year. Again, Kawhi can't score as easily.

Overall FG%

Klay: 48%
Kawhi: 46% (down from last year with more shot attempts, while Klay's % has gone up with more shot attempts)

Klay is the better scorer

[DMC]

He's the only legit guy in the website that has proven to be a giant fatso..I think he's taken more L in life.

Be@ners and Pinoys hoping to be Americans fluffing each other.