NBA: Could ST be wrong about Klay Thompson

[djohn2oo8]

'star swingmen' was just to describe the list, you big dummy

DMC has some solid basketball minds backing him, tbh.

The stat is % of assisted FGs. Klay gets 81% of his FGs assisted. Kawhi 44%.

And Harden is assisted 11%. So what's your point?

[Robz4000]

And Harden is assisted 11%. So what's your point?

Harden is Houston's offensive engine and one of the best scorers in the game; Kawhi is a tier below. Thompson is a spot-up shooter.

[DAF86]

oh please. If Durant was a better defender he would have had 8 les by now.

These type of re ed arguments make you feel sad for engaging on discussions with these guys. I feel ashamed, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

So he's a better shooter; we've acknowledged as such. Being an elite shooter =! being an elite scorer. Matt Bonner could make wide open shots at a high rate, didn't make him an elite scorer.

1. Wait what? That depends on how many shots you are shooting and how often you make them. Thompson is an elite scorer.
2. Matt Bonner shot 2 threes a game. Not 9 like Thompson . Terrible comparison

[Kawhitstorm]

And Harden is assisted 11%. So what's your point?

....89% of the rest comes from the refs.

DeRozan and Harden spend summer study sessions in Los Angeles, where they examine every little opportunity to earn a whistle

[djohn2oo8]

....89% of the rest comes from the refs.

Is that not scoring?

[Robz4000]

1. Wait what?
2. Matt Bonner shot 2 threes a game. Not 9 like Thompson

Scoring is the ability to get points in a variety of ways; shooting is an aspect of scoring. Thompson is one of the greatest shooters this game has seen, but doesn't have the ability to put the ball on the court and take a defender off the dribble, use footwork to generate separation for an open look, get to the line regularly, etc.

Matt Bonner could make his shots regularly like Thompson. Never brought total attempts into the discussion; was just using your logic to make a point.

[Kawhitstorm]

1. Wait what? That depends on how many shots you are shooting and how often you make them. Thompson is an elite scorer.
2. Matt Bonner shot 2 threes a game. Not 9 like Thompson . Terrible comparison

Kawhi has the top mark for TS% among active players: http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._active_p.html

Choke Thompson is in the Jefferson territory w/ the same amount of FGAs

[DAF86]

Getting to the line is a skill, tbh. Kawhi is working on it but still hasn't totally master it.

[Kawhitstorm]

Is that not scoring?

That sure worked for DeFrozen/HarDone in the postseason.

Why won't the refs bail me out when I'm hunting down fouls:

[DAF86]

If the Spurs had drafted Thompson instead of Kawhi like they planned, they wouldn't have got to b2b finals in '13 and '14 and they would be a middle of the pack team right now. If GS had Kawhi instead of Thompson they would be standing b2b defending champions right now.

[Kawhitstorm]

Getting to the line is a skill, tbh. Kawhi is working on it but still hasn't totally master it.

Except refs aren't going to call a foul for minor contacts in the postseason if players aren't in a normal shooting motion, Delly would have fouled out in the 1st quarter if he checked MVP Curry like he did in the '15 Finals.

Last time I remember Kawhi getting to the line consistently was when he schooled Waiters w/ pump-fakes which is actually a normal shooting motion.

[Daniel Sedin]

what a crock of with these posts... damage control ahead

[Robz4000]

what a crock of with these posts... damage control ahead

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[Henrik Sedin]

what a crock of with these posts... damage control ahead

good call. Robz4000 one step ahead of ya

[DAF86]

Really think you don't understand what makes a scorer. Kawhi can't score as easily as Klay, that's why Kawhi's FG% has gone down from last year with more attempts so far this year...And if we look at it, Klay is a better scorer.

3pt %
Klay: 39% ( BTW, Klay has shot better from 3 every season except one, nothing to do with assists. Klay is just a better shooter.)
Kawhi: 38%

Advantage Klay, and for their careers it's Klay as well.

2Pt FG% 2016

Klay: 55%
Kawhi: 49%

This year, advantage Klay. Kawhi's 2pt % has gone down with more shot attempts from last year. Again, Kawhi can't score as easily.

Overall FG%

Klay: 48%
Kawhi: 46% (down from last year with more shot attempts, while Klay's % has gone up with more shot attempts)

Klay is the better scorer

FG% really? That's your argument?

Did you know that Durant is a career 48% shooter but is shooting 57% with the Warriors? A 10% improvement just for joining the Warriors.

[Mikeanaro]

If kiwi had that mentality he'd be the MVP. Stop hiding behind the truth u ing wish he was like that.

Not really, that kind of mentality ruins the team play, I prefer Lawhalecus stepping up his game than Kiwi getting accolades.

[FkLA]

And Harden is assisted 11%. So what's your point?

Harden is a phenomenal offensive player, little buddy. Better than both Kawhi and Klaynus on that end. He has nothing to do with this conversation.

[OrEmuN]

Really think you don't understand what makes a scorer. Kawhi can't score as easily as Klay, that's why Kawhi's FG% has gone down from last year with more attempts so far this year...And if we look at it, Klay is a better scorer.

3pt %
Klay: 39% ( BTW, Klay has shot better from 3 every season except one, nothing to do with assists. Klay is just a better shooter.)
Kawhi: 38%

Advantage Klay, and for their careers it's Klay as well.

2Pt FG% 2016

Klay: 55%
Kawhi: 49%

This year, advantage Klay. Kawhi's 2pt % has gone down with more shot attempts from last year. Again, Kawhi can't score as easily.

Overall FG%

Klay: 48%
Kawhi: 46% (down from last year with more shot attempts, while Klay's % has gone up with more shot attempts)

Klay is the better scorer

Making up fake stats eh?

Career FG%
Kawhi - 49.5%
Klay - 45.1%


Sources: NBA.com & Basketball Ref

[DMC]

After 1 quarter, GS has only 3 points. Everything else was assisted and we know those aren't scores.

[DMC]

Scoring is the ability to get points in a variety of ways; shooting is an aspect of scoring. Thompson is one of the greatest shooters this game has seen, but doesn't have the ability to put the ball on the court and take a defender off the dribble, use footwork to generate separation for an open look, get to the line regularly, etc.

Matt Bonner could make his shots regularly like Thompson. Never brought total attempts into the discussion; was just using your logic to make a point.

Scoring is when you shoot and it goes in and it's counted as points on the board. The other definition conveniently invented by people who don't play ball isn't recognized by the scoreboard as being any different.

[spurraider21]

Dunning–Kruger Effect

a cognitive bias in which low-ability individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability as much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive incapacity, on the part of those with low ability, to recognize their inep ude and evaluate their competence accurately

ugh this is the same you spewed when everybody told you manziel was a predictable bust

[FkLA]

After 1 quarter, GS has only 3 points. Everything else was assisted and we know those aren't scores.

Your fat hands must've been sweating with anticipation to release that sick burn at the end of the quarter, tbh.

[FkLA]

ugh this is the same you spewed when everybody told you manziel was a predictable bust

tbf Football's problems were off the field and a source close to him tells me he's on the comeback trail.

[DMC]

Your fat hands must've been sweating with anticipation to release that sick burn at the end of the quarter, tbh.

I've got you on a string. Rent free up in that watermelon head of yours.