Would you want PATFO to sign 32 year old Choke-P3 for the MAX?

[Kawhitstorm]

Not to worry, GM Doc will spend half a billion of Balmer's cash on Paul, Griffin and Re .

They are on their way to being irrelevant like the Jail Blazers.

[Kawhitstorm]

He is still elite, but I would rather give G.Hill half of CP3 max money and hope Dejounte is ready by 2018/2019..

IMO, the Jazz will do everything possible to re-sign Hill & I don't think it would be smart for PATFO to match whatever the Jazz are going to offer unless he agrees to sign for a discount ala Danny.

Patty is probably going to get a ridiculously dumb contract so I say just sign a caretaker vet like Shaun Livingston who could run the bench unit & let him mentor DeJounte who could be promoted to the 3rd string PG role. Just sign a shooter to play w/ Livingston/Simmons, someone like McLemore could be a nice Simmons type project. (He has more potential than Ft Head, tbh)

[apalisoc_9]

no for the super max..


He's clearly lost a step and is no longer able to will a game by his own like he used to in his Hornets/early Clippers years..

As Robz said; he can't consistently penetrate and put defenses on its heels anymore.. Doc now spams high double screens for him to get there and pull-up or PNP with Blake..

He is still elite, but I would rather give G.Hill half of CP3 max money and hope Dejounte is ready by 2018/2019..

I looked at the next two years FA.

20 million and up.
Curry
Paul
Westbrook player option
Holiday
Isiah Thomas
lowry

15-19 Million

Hill
Teague

10-14 Million

Smart
Lou Williams
Bradley

Im sure Im missing a few player options but not a whole lot of options here. Lou willimas is old as dust, and Hill is lile 30.

Thomas will get the max. Lowry is old. Curry is probably unrealistic and westbrook wont come here.

This is why trading for somone like Bledsoe is so important....If they cant get any top 15 player, they should concentrate on depth on add as much top 50 guards as much as possible.

I would really consider giving smart 10-12 Million. Dude can actually create but hes a role player who is going to be a liability due to lack of shooting....So get a scorer to play the scoring role.

[Kawhitstorm]

This is why trading for somone like Bledsoe is so important....If they cant get any top 15 player, they should concentrate on depth on add as much top 50 guards as much as possible.

Dragic is probably more realistic than Bledsoe since Riley probably wants to dump his contract (to go after Blake) & they have Tyler Johnson to takeover his spot. Just send Pau to a team willing to send the Heat an asset & expiring contract(s).

Brandon Knight, not Bledsoe, would be what Pau could fetch since the Suns aren't in a hurry to dump Bledoe's contract as they won't be player in free-agency.

I would really consider giving smart 10-12 Million. Dude can actually create but hes a role player who is going to be a liability due to lack of shooting....So get a scorer to play the scoring role.

Marcus Smart is too dumb to be a starting point guard. He makes face-palm worthy mistakes like Tony Allen. A Smart/Murray backcourt would be a disaster.

[HarlemHeat37]

All-in on George Hill, tbh..he has improved his ball-handling enough to be a competent offensive, starting PG..he can shoot the 3, still a good defensive player that would give the Spurs the best 1-2-3 defensive lineup in the NBA..obviously has the familiarity with the organization, too..

[Splits]

it doesnt matter with Autist Leonard as their go to guy lmao

if they had Steph or Klay or Kobe then they could think about championships

Oh wait, it's Lakerfan

[MultiTroll]

GTFO.
Altho he does fit CIA Pops profile.
30s.
Bloated contract that will hamstring for years.

[Horse]

Don't Do It Pop

no!

[TD 21]

Of course I wouldn't want to have to give him the max, but to even get a meeting with him and his representative(s), offering him that would go without saying.

The downside is obvious, but what's the alternative? Westbrook is a year away and at minimum an extreme long shot, Holiday and Hill are unlikely too and as good as both are, even with one, it would still be a long shot to win a championship.

[kaji157]

I like CP3 a lot, i don´t think he´d ever come here while Tony is still on the team.

I do believe that this season the Spurs should let Manu go, and trade Tony for whatever Backup SG they can get, but they are not going to do those things and i am good with it also.

[timtonymanu]

All-in on George Hill, tbh..he has improved his ball-handling enough to be a competent offensive, starting PG..he can shoot the 3, still a good defensive player that would give the Spurs the best 1-2-3 defensive lineup in the NBA..obviously has the familiarity with the organization, too..

Still see Hill coming back, tbh. Spurs organization/camaraderie >> $$$/Jazz organization. Only thing is they would have to say goodbye to Patty in the process.

[DPG21920]

Hill seemingly having trouble staying healthy this year..

[Kawhitstorm]

The downside is obvious, but what's the alternative? Westbrook is a year away and at minimum an extreme long shot, Holiday and Hill are unlikely too and as good as both are, even with one, it would still be a long shot to win a championship.

Signing Choke-P to a MAX contract would AT LEAST require dumping Danny's contract & letting Dedmon walk (assuming Pau opts-in). Patty would also most likely not be re-signed since the team would be getting knee deep in luxury tax territory. The team would essentially turn into a poor-man's version the Cripples:

Pau
LMA
Kawhi
Simmons (assuming he doesn't get a Solomon Hill type contract:)
Choke-P

Lee (Assuming he takes the room exception)
Bertans
Kyle
Murray
Porker



If Pau opts-in, PATFO should try everything possible to dump him on a team looking for a one year rental. Hopefully, the Celtics strike out in free-agency & don't see Smart as part of their future so the PATFO could use them to acquire someone like Dragic whom the Heat were trying to move if WestBrick was available.

Dragic at this point of his career most likely will refuse to play for a ty team like the Kings & all of the legit playoff teams already have PGs that are at least in Dragic's tier (Dragic already complained about playing off the ball so the Rockets/Bucks are out of the equation) so the compe ion shouldn't be stiff.

I would offer Pau(Celtics)+Kyle/Murray(Heat) for Dragic & let Patty walk. Use the cap space to re-sign Dedmon (Simmons has Bird Rights) & a cheap off-guard like McLemore who can play w/ Porker. Fill up the roster by offering Lee the Room Exception & bringing in a backup PF/C for the minimum Tiago ter

When Porker comes off the books in 2018, I would sign Seth Curry to be Patty 2.0

[Kawhitstorm]

Hill seemingly having trouble staying healthy this year..

It's just bone related acute injuries similar to what Kawhi used to pick up the per-2014. It's not ligament or tendon related like Conley.

[alpha_HaZE]

They should if they can, CP3 is one of the best defenders in his position. That would be a huge upgrade! He can guard both Curry and Durant, and that by itself justifies giving him the max. Also I am pretty sure he can take full advantage of the leaping abilities of Kawhi, Dedmon, and Simms.

[cd98]

If I were Spurs I'd pay cap space to Dedmond.

[TD 21]

Signing Choke-P to a MAX contract would AT LEAST require dumping Danny's contract & letting Dedmon walk (assuming Pau opts-in). Patty would also most likely not be re-signed since the team would be getting knee deep in luxury tax territory. The team would essentially turn into a poor-man's version the Cripples:

They would obviously dump Parker (a pick might have to be attached), in this scenario.

Paul is more than likely re-signing, but it's either make a long shot push for him and go all in on the present or blow it up, kick the can down the road a few years and hope to peak again when Leonard is in his late 20's. Right now, they're caught in between and the longer is continues, the less chance of contending again while he's in his prime.

[TheDoctor]

20p/20a/5r/3s tonite.

Damn

[Kawhitstorm]

20p/20a/5r/3s tonite.

Damn

....yeah against a D-League roster than Austin Rivers/Mo Speights are torching.

Where was he against the Duds?

[gambit1990]

first player in nba history to put up 20 points, 20 assists, and 0 turnovers.

[Kawhitstorm]

first player in nba history to put up 20 points, 20 assists, and 0 turnovers.

....against a D-League roster. (The Pelicans line-up w/o Davis/Jrue is worse than the Sixers w/o Embiid)

In any case, Ramon Session/Brandon Jennings have had 20/20 games against teams w/ NBA level rosters but they had 2 turnovers

[TheDoctor]

....yeah against a D-League roster than Austin Rivers/Mo Speights are torching.

Where was he against the Duds?

Yeah because our PGs would have had a line like that vs that same team

[T Park]

not sure if this thread is serious or not.....

[TheGreatYacht]

Yeah because our PGs would have had a line like that vs that same team

Obviously not. They don't play enough minutes and the open shooters don't make shots

[SAGirl]

Probably not. Too old, again presenting issues of an aging core or supporting case for Kawhi...