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    He's not a true PG but Clarkson would've been a nice piece to add. Would've at least added a competent penetrator.
    RFA and like almost all of them that teams are actually interested in retaining, wasn't attainable.

    Even if he was, he wasn't vaulting them back into contention. Few players in the league could have and there was no way to acquire them.

    If you just didn't want Gasol for whatever reason(s), like 'Tres, that's fine, but let's not pretend as if they missed out on something bigger and better.

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    RFA and like almost all of them that teams are actually interested in retaining, wasn't attainable.

    Even if he was, he wasn't vaulting them back into contention. Few players in the league could have and there was no way to acquire them.

    If you just didn't want Gasol for whatever reason(s), like 'Tres, that's fine, but let's not pretend as if they missed out on something bigger and better.
    They'd of had a better chance with Clarkson, and if they threw Gasol money at him they could've had him. Gasol is a net negative with the SL and isn't worth the $15mil he got to come off the bench for 20 mins a night.

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    Thats what happens when you don't put in the work in the offseason.

    If he was a winner, if he had heart or if he had a desire to be a champion he'd put in the work. He doesn't though, he never has and never will be a champion unless he coat tails someone elses' hard work.
    In fairness to LA, his effort does varry depending on who he's playing with in the frontcourt. His effort defensively last two games was terrific with Dedmon playing a large sum of minutes with him. Mayne The Gasol signing is getting into his head.

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    They'd of had a better chance with Clarkson, and if they threw Gasol money at him they could've had him. Gasol is a net negative with the SL and isn't worth the $15mil he got to come off the bench for 20 mins a night.
    No, they couldn't have. The Lakers weren't letting him go over $4M, the likes of which was relatively meaningless considering they're re-building (mean, it's not like it was going to cost them another player of value).

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    In fairness to LA, his effort does varry depending on who he's playing with in the frontcourt. His effort defensively last two games was terrific with Dedmon playing a large sum of minutes with him. Mayne The Gasol signing is getting into his head.
    Don't give me in fairness to LA. Don't give me that crap.

    He should be better than he is. He has all the tools that just need sharpening in the offseason, but he has failed to do so the last two offseasons because he doesn't have heart, doesn't have the work ethic and he's not a winner.

    If he was a winner, he'd be putting in the work in the offseason instead of coming into training camp out of shape. Pop just called him out a week ago by saying he's still getting in shape. Pathetic for a supposed " leader".

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    He's not a true PG but Clarkson would've been a nice piece to add. Would've at least added a competent penetrator.
    Clarkson is one of those guys who pounds the air out of the ball until he gets an open lane ala "Dribble-Dribble" Tony.

    Fournier would have been a nice replacement for Manu but he's now stuck in a ty franchise.

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    Don't give me in fairness to LA. Don't give me that crap.

    He should be better than he is. He has all the tools that just need sharpening in the offseason, but he has failed to do so the last two offseasons because he doesn't have heart, doesn't have the work ethic and he's not a winner.

    If he was a winner, he'd be putting in the work in the offseason instead of coming into training camp out of shape. Pop just called him out a week ago by saying he's still getting in shape. Pathetic for a supposed " leader".
    This. He hasn't gotten close to a championship his whole career, much less a WCF. He doesn't have the accolades to coast in an NBA season or mail it in. Even Bobo "shaped up" for a 2014 run.

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    No, they couldn't have. The Lakers weren't letting him go over $4M, the likes of which was relatively meaningless considering they're re-building (mean, it's not like it was going to cost them another player of value).
    Should've at least made the effort regardless. The fact they went after a player that can't stay on the court even against the likes of the Bulls before even trying to solidify a position of need is appalling.

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    Clarkson is one of those guys who pounds the air out of the ball until he gets an open lane ala "Dribble-Dribble" Tony.

    Fournier would have been a nice replacement for Manu but he's now stuck in a ty franchise.
    MVParker was the same way but the offense still flowed well. As long as Clarkson provided a new element to the offense he'd of been worth it.

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    ^^

    Even if the Spurs wanted to trade Aldridge, there's no realistic move they could make that would net anywhere near equal value IMO..not to mention the question of whether they would trade for a PG that would send TP to the bench..I don't believe either is realistic, tbh..

    The Spurs are going to wait until 2018 and start fresh at the PG position IMO..

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    MVParker was the same way but the offense still flowed well. As long as Clarkson provided a new element to the offense he'd of been worth it.
    MVPorker attacked off the loop play & only really dribbled-dribbled when he was running a 2-man game w/ Timmay. Clarkson on the other hand dribbles until he has a lane *which sometime never appears* so he could get HIMSELF a bucket instead of dribble-drive & kick. That's the reason Lou has the ball on the 2nd unit & Clarkson only gets to handle it when they are trying to get him to attack.

    Austin Rivers, Clarkson & Brandon Knight are cut from the same stone.

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    Even if the Spurs wanted to trade Aldridge, there's no realistic move they could make that would net anywhere near equal value IMO.
    I'm not sure how Millsap for Softridge isn't equal value at this point when you consider BOTH sides of the court.

    Millsap essentially does everything David Lee does well in addition to his range & elite defense. Pau would also be a lesser defensive liability when Danny/Kawhi/Millsap are on the floor since they are all great help defenders when they're locked-in.
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    Honestly, Millsap has.looked so bad this year too...so thats a bug question mark. Unless, Atlanta is willing to help San Antonio like maybe Get Malcom Delaney for Kyle Anderso or any guard for that matter.

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    I'm not sure how Millsap for Softridge isn't equal value at this point when you consider BOTH sides of the court.

    Millsap essentially does everything David Lee does well in addition to his range & elite defense. Pau would also be a lesser defensive liability when Danny/Kawhi/Millsap are on the floor.
    I agree, but I was thinking more of a PG package..

    I don't see how acquiring Millsap(even though I'm a big fan of his) fixes the lack of a dynamic PG..

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    Millsap-Malcom Delaney

    For Kyle-Softridge-Lapro

    Involve boston or some other team for another Guard.

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    Honestly, Millsap has.looked so bad this year too...so thats a bug question mark. Unless, Atlanta is willing to help San Antonio like maybe Get Malcom Delaney for Kyle Anderso or any guard for that matter.
    He has been fine on defense & on offense it has to do w/ teams packing the paint when he's on the floor w/ Dwert/Schroder so he had no driving lanes which greatly affects him since he's a face-up guy. (Bazemore is shooting 29%)

    If he played w/ Pau/Patty/Kawhi/Danny, he would have plenty of driving lanes. He would also get WIDE OPEN looks on spotups since defenders would have to rotate on Kawhi's drive from the perimeter as Pau's man can't camp in the paint like they do w/ Dwert. Also, Millsap absolutely destroys mismatches by taking them straight to the rim instead of shooting soft fadeaways.

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    you made me spit my coffee out

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    you made me spit my coffee out
    I was trying t remeber who the lady is from....



    Now i get it


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    I agree, but I was thinking more of a PG package..

    I don't see how acquiring Millsap(even though I'm a big fan of his) fixes the lack of a dynamic PG..
    If you have a Millsap/Kawhi/Danny/Dedmon lineup, you can at least count on a stingy defense EVERY NIGHT while you can't count on Softridge's shot to show up. I would throw Patty in the lineup & play more uptempo like the 2nd unit while utilizing Millsap's ability to bring up the ball ala D-Lee. Basically, get stops or force turnovers then run. Danny/Patty would get a lot of those transition 3s they feasted on during the "Beautiful Game" era. The only thing Patty is also good at pressuring ball handlers so might as well make good use of it w/ Dedmon/Millsap covering his back.

    If the other team goes small, Millsap can still play the 4 spot & allow Dedmon to stay on the floor since he can guard the Iggy's of the world. I would also post-up Millsap & run the offense through him ala Diaw. The TOSB Bench line-up would be painful to watch though:

    Pau
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    Evita
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    ...but Simmons/Bertans in transition:
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    If you have a Millsap/Kawhi/Danny/Dedmon lineup, you can at least count on a stingy defense EVERY NIGHT while you can't count on Softridge's shot to show up. I would throw Patty in the lineup & play more uptempo like the 2nd unit while utilizing Millsap's ability to bring up the ball ala D-Lee. Basically, get stops or force turnovers then run. Danny/Patty would get a lot of those transition 3s they feasted on during the "Beautiful Game" era. The only thing Patty is also good at pressuring ball handlers so might as well make good use of it w/ Dedmon/Millsap covering his back.

    If the other team goes small, Millsap can still play the 4 spot & allow Dedmon to stay on the floor since he can guard the Iggy's of the world. I would also post-up Millsap & run the offense through him ala Diaw. The TOSB Bench line-up would be painful to watch though:

    Pau
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    Evita
    Enirique



    ...but Simmons/Bertans in transition:
    reguardless of whether we trade LMA or not, I think that that is an option against GSW. Dedmon is an absolute monster on the glass and him and Aldridge would force GSW to have KD, Green, and Iggy stay back and crash the glass and keep them from getting out in transition

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    Should've at least made the effort regardless. The fact they went after a player that can't stay on the court even against the likes of the Bulls before even trying to solidify a position of need is appalling.
    Fair enough, but all I'm saying is, effort wasn't going to yield results in this case.

    I was on board with continuing on this path because it's almost impossible to get to this level in the NBA (look at the current top five teams, they all needed significant luck), but it's now clear they've slipped to much to even think they'd have a puncher's chance. Might as well start a re-load/build right now and hope to peak again while Leonard is still in his prime, rather than risk wasting it all.

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    MaNu4Tres was sure that the Spurs were trying to trade LMA. I wonder if his "reliable" sources have any more info.
    You couldn't be more wrong.

    I never said Spurs were trying to trade him.

    Here you go, you and a few others need this.


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    Not sure what's going on with this guy getting rested left and right but if his body is starting to deteriorate (talk about knee issues), let his ageing shows while he's wearing a different uniform..

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    Not sure what's going on with this guy getting rested left and right but if his body is starting to deteriorate (talk about knee issues), let his ageing shows while he's wearing a different uniform..
    A jump shooting big, you"d hope he'd age like Dirk who just NOw finally hit the wall. But you could be right

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