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    Interesting timing with all that is being dug up from the past these days


    1987 (November) – The US Army received allegations of child abuse at fifteen of its day care centers and several elementary schools. There were also at least two other cases at Air Force day care centers, and another one at a center run by the US Navy. In addition to these, a special team of experts were sent to Panama to help determine if as many as ten children at a Department of Defense elementary school were molested and possibly infected with AIDS. Another case also emerged in a US-run facility in West Germany. These cases occurred at some of the most esteemed military bases in the country, including Fort Dix, Fort Leavenworth, Fort Jackson, and West Point. In the West Point case alone, by the end of the year, fifty children were interviewed by investigators. There were reports of satanic acts, animal sacrifices, and cult-like behavior among the abusers. An investigation led by former US Attorney Rudolph Giuliani produced no federal grand jury indictments. His investigation concluded that only one or two children were abused, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary

    http://exposinginfragard.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-case-against-michael-aquino-satanic.html?m=1


    (CNN)Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani will not serve in Donald Trump's incoming administration, the President-elect announced Friday.
    The transition team released a statement Friday saying Giuliani removed himself from consideration for a position last month, a description contradicted by CNN reporting that the New Yorker was told he would not get the secretary of state position this week.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/09/politi...ost/index.html

    To add to this anyone else find it odd there hasn't been a single peep from Trump on pizzagate? (i ing hate the "gate" trend)

    He can't seem to keep his Twitter quiet about anything else, he's tweeted his thoughts on far crazier conspiracies.

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    Im honestly confused.
    Dont be. He's trying to equate things that have been proven to be true to things that have no chance of being proven true.

    bottom line don't ever pay a retainer for his services, you'll be guilty regardless.

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    Im honestly confused.
    Anybody can make up a conspiracy theory and say "you cant prove it wrong." That's now how news works. Once you have actual evidence, sources, etc, it becomes a credible story.

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    Dont be. He's trying to equate things that have been proven to be true to things that have no chance of being proven true.

    bottom line don't ever pay a retainer for his services, you'll be guilty regardless.
    what was i referring to that has "been proven to be true"... and can anybody on this forum have a less original "insult" than lol ur gna be a bad lawyer

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    Anybody can make up a conspiracy theory and say "you cant prove it wrong." That's now how news works. Once you have actual evidence, sources, etc, it becomes a credible story.
    I agree. I think legitimately well researched and original news angles are a dead and soon to be lost art.

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    Anybody can make up a conspiracy theory and say "you cant prove it wrong." That's now how news works. Once you have actual evidence, sources, etc, it becomes a credible story.
    Concerning pizzagate no one has said you can't prove me wrong. Trying to equate this to Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't work.

    People just want an honest honest look into it, which hasn't happened by any mainstream media unless you are counting Inquisitr. MSM called it debunked based on what? Not having a basement? Even though he does right across the streeet at his other restaurant. But the basement doesn't even matter.

    There is a huge pile of cir stantial evidence that needs to be addressed. Hard to prove anything at this point sure, but don't think cir stantial evidence has never lead to a conviction. You dismiss all of this without doing due diligence and it's understandable, I don't want this to be true either.

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    what was i referring to that has "been proven to be true"... and can anybody on this forum have a less original "insult" than lol ur gna be a bad lawyer
    conspiracy theories have been proven to be true over time.

    And that wasn't an insult tbh, just my opinion from watching you try and argue here, you suck.

    I once thought I had a chance at the PGA tour. Now I'm just a scratch golfer that realizes I never put in the time.

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    conspiracy theories have been proven to be true over time.

    And that wasn't an insult tbh, just my opinion from watching you try and argue here, you suck.

    I once thought I had a chance at the PGA tour. Now I'm just a scratch golfer that realizes I never put in the time.
    i'm saying once they have evidence and facts behind them, they cease to be conspiracy theories. i'm not denying that some stories were once conspiracy theories. but i'm saying based on the sheer volume of them, and the ease of creating a conspiracy theory, its re ed to waste our time dwelling on them UNTIL that point where there are evidence and facts behind them

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    Concerning pizzagate no one has said you can't prove me wrong. Trying to equate this to Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't work.

    People just want an honest honest look into it, which hasn't happened by any mainstream media unless you are counting Inquisitr. MSM called it debunked based on what? Not having a basement? Even though he does right across the streeet at his other restaurant. But the basement doesn't even matter.

    There is a huge pile of cir stantial evidence that needs to be addressed. Hard to prove anything at this point sure, but don't think cir stantial evidence has never lead to a conviction. You dismiss all of this without doing due diligence and it's understandable, I don't want this to be true either.
    the burden is on the person making the claim. there is nothing compelling to back the claims behind pizzagate, and you've even been dodgy when asked what your claims are besides "there's something going on." what do you think podesta should be indicted for? clinton?

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    the burden is on the person making the claim. there is nothing compelling to back the claims behind pizzagate, and you've even been dodgy when asked what your claims are besides "there's something going on." what do you think podesta should be indicted for? clinton?
    The claim is there is a lot of cir stantial evidence pointing to it. These aren't fake connections people are finding, speaking of being dodgy.

    And to your other post---
    its re ed to waste our time dwelling on them UNTIL that point where there are evidence and facts behind them


    You are too quick to dismiss cir stantial evidence, if everyone thought like you we'd all just wait for victims to come forward. Which is what occurs with victims of pedophilia according to ClipperNation

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    the burden is on the person making the claim. there is nothing compelling to back the claims behind pizzagate, and you've even been dodgy when asked what your claims are besides "there's something going on." what do you think podesta should be indicted for? clinton?
    Any compelling evidence to dismiss the claim?

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    Any compelling evidence to dismiss the claim?
    claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. this is why there is no compelling evidence to dismiss the flying spaghetti monster

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    cir stantial evidence can be incredibly powerful, its not synonymous with "weak evidence."

    picture a murder scene. woman dead with blood all around her. single gunshot wound. near the scene you have a gun that had been shot recently, with the same caliber bullet that killed the woman. husband's fingerprint and hair can be found on the gun. a trace of the wife's blood was found on the husbands shirt he wore that day. they find that she filed for divorce earlier that day.

    besides the body of the dead woman, everything else there is cir stantial. it's still compelling evidence

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    cir stantial evidence can be incredibly powerful, its not synonymous with "weak evidence."

    picture a murder scene. woman dead with blood all around her. single gunshot wound. near the scene you have a gun that had been shot recently, with the same caliber bullet that killed the woman. husband's fingerprint and hair can be found on the gun. a trace of the wife's blood was found on the husbands shirt he wore that day. they find that she filed for divorce earlier that day.

    besides the body of the dead woman, everything else there is cir stantial. it's still compelling evidence
    Yet, the burden is on the accuser (the prosecutor) to prove the criminal case... that the husband did shoot the gun and that was actually the murder weapon. And for that he needs actual evidence: a ballistics report, a gun shot residue test, etc.

    Cir stantial evidence might be enough for a civil trial, but when we're talking criminal cases, you normally need more than 'connecting the dots'.

    If the bar for criminal cases would be that low, OJ Simpson and Zimmerman would probably been found guilty...

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    Also, because it's repeated ad nauseam in this thread:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

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    Yet, the burden is on the accuser (the prosecutor) to prove the criminal case... that the husband did shoot the gun and that was actually the murder weapon. And for that he needs actual evidence: a ballistics report, a gun shot residue test, etc.

    Cir stantial evidence might be enough for a civil trial, but when we're talking criminal cases, you normally need more than 'connecting the dots'.

    If the bar for criminal cases would be that low, OJ Simpson and Zimmerman would probably been found guilty...
    yeah, i wasn't suggesting that the evidence i put out there would garner a conviction. but those are pretty strong pieces evidence that can't just be brushed off as weak because they're cir stantial

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    Experiment doesn't hold up with archive.org
    I don't understand what you mean, what does Internet Archive have to do with it?

    WaPo, ABC, etc. are obviously auto-publishing AP "Big Story" articles verbatim on their site and removing them after a certain period of time. They're doing this with all of them, not just your friends' cherry-picked Norwegian pedophile story.

    You can run this experiment with many similar AP articles. You won't because you don't care about reality.

    Anyway, here's the Norwegian pedo article on Archive.org:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20161121...fe7_story.html
    Last edited by Spurminator; 12-10-2016 at 11:57 AM.

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    Charlie Strong must be a part of this intricate pedophile ring that leads all the way up to the Clintons, I can see no other reason that this article would be in Google results and now gone from the site.

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    She's mocking us TSA


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    why is there no date on that tweet? or just a link to the tweet

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    why is there no date on that tweet? or just a link to the tweet
    Even if this is photoshopped, is eating Pizza of any kind banned now?

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    24 hours without an update? TSA get crackin, you got bills to pay, !

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    there will be a point where he owns up to it being bull but will play the "you were all waay to quick to dismiss it when there was some smoke" card

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    I don't understand what you mean, what does Internet Archive have to do with it?

    WaPo, ABC, etc. are obviously auto-publishing AP "Big Story" articles verbatim on their site and removing them after a certain period of time. They're doing this with all of them, not just your friends' cherry-picked Norwegian pedophile story.

    You can run this experiment with many similar AP articles. You won't because you don't care about reality.

    Anyway, here's the Norwegian pedo article on Archive.org:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20161121...fe7_story.html
    I ran all the other articles through the way back machine and they showed up in archives, Norwegian story did not.

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    there will be a point where he owns up to it being bull but will play the "you were all waay to quick to dismiss it when there was some smoke" card
    I disagree. Conspira s aren't big on admitting when they're wrong. Once they get far enough down the rabbit hole of a conspiracy theory, confirmation bias takes over and every piece of evidence that refutes it becomes part of the conspiracy. At this point, TSA will probably never stop spamming this nonsense.

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