NBA: Could ST be wrong about Klay Thompson

[djohn2oo8]

Anyone who thinks Klaynus could shouler the load as the first option like Kawhi has been doing for years is delusional. End of story. He's had a couple fluke games and has been a role player for the rest of his career.

Who said Klay could be a first option?

[DAF86]

no moron, if a player averages 25 PPG, with bad games in between which all players have, that means he has more good games than bad ones. That's called consistency.

In the example I gave you the guy averages 25 ppg but has as many bad games (0 pts games) as good games (50 pts games).

Granted this is an extreme example but the fact remains, a good ppg average doesn't equal consistency.

[djohn2oo8]

In the example I gave you the guy averages 25 ppg but has as many bad games (0 pts games) as good games (50 pts games).

Granted this is an extreme example but the fact remains, a good ppg average doesn't equal consistency.

lol 50 points is a great game. Okay, so how does a player even have a good PPG? What must they do to have that?

[Clipper Nation]

Who said Klay could be a first option?

You're acting like he's a much better scorer than Kawhi because of a couple fluky games and how he benefits from all the attention his superior teammates get from opposing defenses. If he had to carry the offensive load on a team where he's clearly the best player, there's no way he could produce like Kawhi does. Which means if you strip away all the outside advantages that Klaynus has, he's not the better scorer.

[Clipper Nation]

Klaynus can't even dribble. He's literally Danny Green on steroids, on a stacked team, and people are really comparing him to a first option who has to create his own points.

[DAF86]

lol 50 points is a great game. Okay, so how does a player even have a good PPG? What must they do to have that?

They can either score around their usual average pretty regularly like Kawhi does, or they can go for absurd numbers in some games and then go way below their average in others like Klay does.

[FkLA]

Who said Klay could be a first option?

Then why in the would you call him a better scorer than a bonafide first option of an elite team?

[djohn2oo8]

You're acting like he's a much better scorer than Kawhi because of a couple fluky games and how he benefits from all the attention his superior teammates get from opposing defenses. If he had to carry the offensive load on a team where he's clearly the best player, there's no way he could produce like Kawhi does. Which means if you strip away all the outside advantages that Klaynus has, he's not the better scorer.

No, I've pointed out multiple seasons where Klay was the better 3 point shooter and 2 point shooter, not just one or two games, nobody is talking about first option this or that. Who can score the easiest? Who can get open more effortlessly? No ifs, ands or buts. Straight answer. Plenty of vaginas in here bleeding because in terms of being a pure scorer, it's Klay.

[djohn2oo8]

Then why in the would you call him a better scorer than a bonafide first option of an elite team?

Uh dude, I said he is no playmaker either. You do know just because I called him a better scorer, doesn't mean I think he can be a first option. He just scores easier than Kawhi. And vaginas started to bleed in here over that comment.

[Clipper Nation]

No, I've pointed out multiple seasons where Klay was the better 3 point shooter and 2 point shooter, not just one or two games, nobody is talking about first option this or that. Who can score the easiest? Who can get open more effortlessly? No ifs, ands or buts. Straight answer. Plenty of vaginas in here bleeding because in terms of being a pure scorer, it's Klay.

How can you not understand why a player's spot in the pecking order on their offense matters? Klaynus scores more "easily" because Curry and Durant are getting more attention from defenses than he is. If he was the go-to guy that defenses focus their attention on like Kawhi is, he would not be scoring nearly as easily. Like I said, he can't even dribble. Defenders would be licking their chops to face him without having to worry about Steph and KD.

By your logic, some D-Leaguer who gets called up for a cup of coffee and drops 60 in his only game is a better scorer than Kawhi because "muh points per game." Your argument is stupid because you keep ignoring the context of the stats you're using. A player's role in their offense matters. How they get their points matters. Consistency matters.

[FkLA]

Uh dude, I said he is no playmaker either. You do know just because I called him a better scorer, doesn't mean I think he can be a first option. He just scores easier than Kawhi. And vaginas started to bleed in here over that comment.

Kawhi's playmaking isn't what makes him a bonafide first option. It's his scoring ability.

Yet you think he's less of a scorer than a guy who you don't even believe can be a first option. Your're illogical.

[djohn2oo8]

How can you not understand why a player's spot in the pecking order on their offense matters? Klaynus scores more "easily" because Curry and Durant are getting more attention from defenses than he is. If he was the go-to guy that defenses focus their attention on like Kawhi is, he would not be scoring nearly as easily. Like I said, he can't even dribble. Defenders would be licking their chops to face him without having to worry about Steph and KD.

By your logic, some D-Leaguer who gets called up for a cup of coffee and drops 60 in his only game is a better scorer than Kawhi because "muh points per game." Your argument is stupid because you keep ignoring the context of the stats you're using. A player's role in their offense matters. How they get their points matters. Consistency matters.

Klay scores more easily because he actually moves without the ball and has a quick release. He was doing that before Durant got there, so it's disingenuous to say Durant getting attention caused that.

[djohn2oo8]

Kawhi's playmaking isn't what makes him a bonafide first option. It's his scoring ability.

Yet you think he's less of a scorer than a guy who you don't even believe can be a first option. Your're illogical.

You are bleeding over the fact one guy scores more effortlessly than another. That's unbelievable.

[Clipper Nation]

Klay scores more easily because he actually moves without the ball and has a quick release. He was doing that before Durant got there, so it's disingenuous to say Durant getting attention caused that.

Even without KD, he still had Curry sucking up most of the attention next to him. Meanwhile, Kawhi IS the "Curry" of the Spurs (in terms of defensive attention, not shooting).

You're literally arguing that Klaynus is the better scorer because he plays like a role player on a stacked team, while ignoring that Kawhi doesn't have that luxury. Kawhi has to create for himself while carrying bags like Porker and LaMarsha.

[FkLA]

You are bleeding over the fact one guy scores more effortlessly than another. That's unbelievable.

[313]

Bringing up inconsistencies like Kawhi hasn't had wildly inconsistent stretches this season seriously

Kawhi is the number 1 option so he's obviously still going to get his points on a bad night(greenlight to shoot as much as he wants, usually shoots game ending FTs, etc), while Klay will have to defer to Steph and KD if he doesn't have it, and he doesn't get to pad his ppg with game ending Fts tbh.

[313]

Let's see how they fared in the biggest game of the series:

>biggest game of the series
>doesn't post the elimination game where KD on Kawhi and the Spurs organization

[djohn2oo8]

Even without KD, he still had Curry sucking up most of the attention next to him. Meanwhile, Kawhi IS the "Curry" of the Spurs (in terms of defensive attention, not shooting).

You're literally arguing that Klaynus is the better scorer because he plays like a role player on a stacked team, while ignoring that Kawhi doesn't have that luxury. Kawhi has to create for himself while carrying bags like Porker and LaMarsha.

Is Klay not a better shooter? Yes or no? Just a quick question.

[djohn2oo8]

>biggest game of the series
>doesn't post the elimination game where KD on Kawhi and the Spurs organization

[Clipper Nation]

Is Klay not a better shooter? Yes or no? Just a quick question.

[FkLA]

Bringing up inconsistencies like Kawhi hasn't had wildly inconsistent stretches this season seriously

Kawhi is the number 1 option so he's obviously still going to get his points on a bad night(greenlight to shoot as much as he wants, usually shoots game ending FTs, etc), while Klay will have to defer to Steph and KD if he doesn't have it, and he doesn't get to pad his ppg with game ending Fts tbh.

Here tell me if their inconsistencies are even comparable:

Kawhi- 24.7 PPG on 47/40/91
Klaynus- 21.5 PPG on 47/38/89

Kawhi- 7 30+ pt games, 21 20+ pt games, held under 20 pts three times, held at or under 15 pts once, season low is 14 pts
Klaynus- 2 30+ pts games, 14 20+ pt games, held under 20 pts eleven times, held at or under 15 pts eight times, season low is 8 pts

Now get your Enrique loving ass the out.

[djohn2oo8]

Bringing up inconsistencies like Kawhi hasn't had wildly inconsistent stretches this season seriously

Kawhi is the number 1 option so he's obviously still going to get his points on a bad night(greenlight to shoot as much as he wants, usually shoots game ending FTs, etc), while Klay will have to defer to Steph and KD if he doesn't have it, and he doesn't get to pad his ppg with game ending Fts tbh.

yup

[djohn2oo8]

yes or no?

[Clipper Nation]

yes or no?

[313]

Laughing at Kawhi > Aldridge. That has to be one of the worst moments of ST's history, tbh.

Kawhi's best playoff series that we won 17.8 ppg ( should rename it the "glorified over achiever/didn't get completely on by LeBron" award) (should've been Tim's 4th FMVP as well)