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    Fox’s Judge Jeanine has bonkers rant: If you investigate Russian 2016 hacking, you’re against America



    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/watc...e+Raw+Story%29

    War is Peace, Bad is Good, Black is White, Up is Down, Poor is Rich, continuing the fantasy world created by the 2001-2008 Repugs.


    Funny, considering how the left seems to want to go to russia for some reason

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    Classic Obama. ed that Mormon right in his magic underwear.

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    jeanine has a vendetta against hillary ever since her embarrassing run for the senate

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    jeanine has a vendetta against hillary ever since her embarrassing run for the senate
    The judge cut her throat the Saturday after that Tuesday:::


    "She even called you deplorable, irredeemable and not America. If you didn’t support her, you probably hated women and were backward. They tried to convince you a lie wasn’t a lie if it came from her mouth.
    The media-- so corrupt that they shared debate questions with her to give her the edge-- tried to beat you down by repeatedly telling you it was useless to even show up at the polls.
    And even though the president of the United States did his best on the eve of the election to trash him and mock him as a joke and unfit, bringing out out Jay-Z, Springsteen, Beyoncé, Gaga... It didn't matter.
    In spite of it all we all, even though we felt forgotten, alone and beaten down, we all came home because this wasn't an election-- it was a revolution. We came home to where our forefathers in their genius had always planned back to America...
    Back to who we are... Back to the cons ution...
    And yes Mr. soon to be ex-president Obama we can now proudly cling to our guns, our religion...
    And now our new President-elect Donald j trump."

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    The judge cut her throat the Saturday after that Tuesday:::


    "She even called you deplorable, irredeemable and not America. If you didn’t support her, you probably hated women and were backward. They tried to convince you a lie wasn’t a lie if it came from her mouth.
    The media-- so corrupt that they shared debate questions with her to give her the edge-- tried to beat you down by repeatedly telling you it was useless to even show up at the polls.
    And even though the president of the United States did his best on the eve of the election to trash him and mock him as a joke and unfit, bringing out out Jay-Z, Springsteen, Beyoncé, Gaga... It didn't matter.
    In spite of it all we all, even though we felt forgotten, alone and beaten down, we all came home because this wasn't an election-- it was a revolution. We came home to where our forefathers in their genius had always planned back to America...
    Back to who we are... Back to the cons ution...
    And yes Mr. soon to be ex-president Obama we can now proudly cling to our guns, our religion...
    And now our new President-elect Donald j trump."
    32 seconds of stalling silence... the longest 32 seconds of her honor's life.

    first 1:15 is all you need

    http://www.cc.com/video-clips/pxy7av...s-announcement


    she's held a grudge against clinton for years and finally got to throw punches from her protected fox platform. good for her.

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    32 seconds of stalling silence... the longest 32 seconds of her honor's life.

    first 1:15 is all you need

    http://www.cc.com/video-clips/pxy7av...s-announcement


    she's held a grudge against clinton for years and finally got to throw punches from her protected fox platform. good for her.
    & on that Saturday nite she got her good, by God. Lit her in' ass up, 21.

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    Now, I'm goin' to couch. Gonna sleep with visions of sugar Trumps dancin' thru my in' head.

    LMAO! Whipped her in' ass as nite turned to morning,,,8 November 2016.

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    & on that Saturday nite she got her good, by God. Lit her in' ass up, 21.
    anybody can be a critic. it's what all of us do here

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    As Trump again attacks CIA, former intelligence officers expect retaliation against the agency

    Trump's response to the CIA conclusion that the Russian government worked on his behalf to disrupt the American election has been, as usual, to simply deny that intelligence officials know any such thing. Trump is smart; they are dumb. Trump knows Russia's actions and intentions; the entire collected national intelligence infrastructure doesn't. His dysfunctional—and outright delusional—ultra-narcissism is expected to create chaos as Trump and his Flynn-led team steamroll over any presented data that conflicts with their own preferences.

    Foreign policy and past top intelligence figures are already expressing extreme alarm over Trump's rejection of the intelligence he's been handed:

    “To have the president-elect of the United States simply reject the fact-based narrative that the intelligence community puts together because it conflicts with his a priori assumptions — wow,”

    said Michael V. Hayden, who was the director of the N.S.A. and later the C.I.A. under President George W. Bush.

    Trump dismissing the intelligence presented to him is one thing. When Trump actually becomes President Trump, however, some former officers expect retaliation against those agency for their Russian assessments.

    Former intelligence officers told the Guardian they considered retaliation by Trump to be all but a certainty after he is sworn into office next month.

    Trump still has several appointments to make at the highest levels of the intelligence apparatus, picks which are likely to be bellwethers for the new president’s at udes toward the agencies.

    “There is not just smoke here. There is a blazing 10-alarm fire, the sirens are wailing, the Russians provided the lighter fluid, and Trump is standing half-burnt and holding a match,”

    said Glenn Carle, a retired CIA officer and interrogator.


    The facts hurt, Trump won’t like the truth, and

    he will without question seek to

    destroy those individuals or organizations that say or do anything that he thinks harm his precious grandiosity.”


    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1...28Daily+Kos%29

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    It wasn't Bushs' report, it was the CIA's report. You ain't passing the buck here. No.
    Yes it was the CIA's report, and it didn't mention Iraq possessing WMD. It was Bush's handlers who added that bit. Now the world knows, and it doesn't matter if a senile old Suns fan denies it.

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    But didn't you know?

    They also think its Bush's fault that Katrina hit.

    Bush is to blame for everything. They must think he's an evil God!
    This has nothing to do with people's opinion of Bush. The facts are this: the CIA published a report which didn't mention that Iraq had WMDs. The administration added this falsehood and used the amended report to start a war that has led to the deaths of thousands of American and allied soldiers, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of dead, injured and displaced Iraqis.

    Whether that makes Bush a simpleton or a liar is irrelevant.

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    The facts are this: the CIA published a report which didn't mention that Iraq had WMDs.
    Maybe not the published report, but the reports Bush received daily did. There was a CIA insider that published a book saying it was included in reports to Bush. I guess if you don't want to believe, that's your option.

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    Maybe not the published report, but the reports Bush received daily did. There was a CIA insider that published a book saying it was included in reports to Bush. I guess if you don't want to believe, that's your option.
    The original CIA report is declassified and available for all to view.

    If Bush received altered versions, it means Cheney or someone else in the admin was involved in the deception. If Bush knew about the deception and went along because he could use the altered report excuse to cover his ass, he is a war criminal. If he genuinely didn't know, he is incompetent. Ultimately Bush is the CiC and he is accountable for making the biggest mistake since the Vietnam war.

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    which i guess makes that a poor comparison to bring up in the first place
    You inferred it when you said it would be enough to have the evidence excluded. That only works in a court of law. Now go ahead and say "I didn't say I didn't".

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    The original CIA report is declassified and available for all to view.

    If Bush received altered versions, it means Cheney or someone else in the admin was involved in the deception. If Bush knew about the deception and went along because he could use the altered report excuse to cover his ass, he is a war criminal. If he genuinely didn't know, he is incompetent. Ultimately Bush is the CiC and he is accountable for making the biggest mistake since the Vietnam war.
    Biggest mistake? So allowing terrorists to set up shop on your soil including getting flight training under your watch doesn't cons ute "incompetence"? All this while you're busy defending yourself because you were have an adulterous affair with an intern in the oval office while your wife slept a few doors down? Bigger than that? Bigger than killing women and children in Waco on live TV? The war in the middle east was ongoing, it was started when Saddam invaded Kuwait. It didn't end there. There were resolutions on top of resolutions and the fact anyone needed WMDs to enforce them is embarrassing.

    The biggest mistake was not toppling Saddam the 1st time around. That would have thwarted all of it.

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    Biggest mistake? So allowing terrorists to set up shop on your soil including getting flight training under your watch doesn't cons ute "incompetence"? All this while you're busy defending yourself because you were have an adulterous affair with an intern in the oval office while your wife slept a few doors down? Bigger than that? Bigger than killing women and children in Waco on live TV? The war in the middle east was ongoing, it was started when Saddam invaded Kuwait. It didn't end there. There were resolutions on top of resolutions and the fact anyone needed WMDs to enforce them is embarrassing.

    The biggest mistake was not toppling Saddam the 1st time around. That would have thwarted all of it.
    Yes, the Iraq war was by far the biggest, most unjustifiable mistake since 'Nam because the US had all the information they needed to avoid that mistake. 9-11 was far less in the administration's control, and it is debatable as to whether it was preventable. Blaming Bill Clinton for 9-11 might sound really convincing when discussed by a Fox News panel, but doesn't hold up in the real world. Richard Clarke has discussed the difference between the Clinton and Bush admins regarding terrorism.

    Yes, Clinton didn't have a comprehensive plan to defeat Al-Qaeda. However Clinton was the one who called Bin Laden "the biggest security problem facing the US" and created a specific CIA unit focused on him. Ironically the GOP Congress accused him of trying to use Al-Qaeda as a diversion from the blowjob issue. Unbelievably, Bush told the 9-11 commission that he didn't remember Clinton mentioning AQ in his exit interview. Condi Rice downgraded the counter-terrorism coordinator's position. Bush received warning after warning about AQ and OBL but didn't change a thing until the planes hit the tower.

    There is plenty of blame to go around, but while 9-11 was an inability to put safeguards in place, Iraq was a complete self-goal. And if you want to go back to removing Saddam the 1st time, maybe we should go back to when the US funded and armed Saddam in the first place.

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    You inferred it when you said it would be enough to have the evidence excluded. That only works in a court of law. Now go ahead and say "I didn't say I didn't".
    mavsfan brought up the comparison, not me. a criminal defendant doesn't complain about an illegal search to win in the court of public opinion. the comparison fails

    Yep. it's like a criminal complaining about an illegal search.

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    How did we find out both the CIA and the British got Saddams bragging dead wrong? And that they in a way exaggerated each other's reports in a dangerous feedback?


    Oh.

    THE MEDIA.

    What a bunch of conservative dumb cucks...
    Conservatives have above replacement level birth rates, we still our women unlike you perverted little cuckold creeps. Go whack it in the corner while Jamal plows your wife and Malcom x plays in the background
    Well this explains nothing and at the same time quite a lot.

    Good answer.
    You took that one head on.

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    The investigation of Russian skewing the election has to be done quickly, because Trash, Pompeo, and Sessions will shut it down 21 Jan.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 12-12-2016 at 11:12 AM.

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    The investigation of Russian skewing the election has to be done quickly, because Trash and Sessions will shut it down 21 Jan.
    & it will be too. This ain't like usual . This is special .

    What the Repugs have to recognize & most importantly realize is that Trump will be watching like when he watched CC kinda sidestep & kinda duck when he needed him to side him as it was coming to an end.

    Trump is like Kobe:::"I don't forget anything."

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    UNEXPECTED RUSSIAN TRAFFIC E IN WISCONSIN RAISES EYEBROWS

    Officials in a tiny county in Northern Wisconsin have noticed a very strange pattern of Internet traffic coming into their servers coming from Russia and its former republic, Kyrgyzstan. The visits and the timing raise the possibility that an attempt was afoot to seek ways into voting systems.

    Wisconsin is one of the states where Donald Trump experienced an unexpected victory on November 8. Federal officials are alleging that Russian hackers took an interest in the election and appear to have selectively hacked and leaked information harmful to Trump’s opponent, Hillary Clinton — though no hard evidence has emerged of hacks directly related to vote counts.


    Servers in Bayfield County and in the city of Ashland (which straddles Bayfield and Ashland counties) are mystified by the e in traffic, which began on March 15. “It has been pretty much sustained from March on, all the way through the election period,” cyber security consultant EricEllason told the Ashland Daily Press.


    The traffic from Eastern Europe was 20 to 30 times higher than might be expected. The hits from the tiny, remote Kyrgyzstan began at the same time as the Russian visits. No comparable traffic came from other countries, including large countries that might reasonably be assumed to have a comparable interest in the county, were the county to be noticeably in the public eye at that time — which it was not.


    The potential probing was discovered by Ellason, who does contract work for the city of Ashland. When he asked if others had a similar experience, it turned out that Bayfield County (total population approximately 15,000) had as well.


    The e involved approximately 20 to 30 different users — and has continued beyond the election.


    Paul Houck, Bayfield County’s director of information technology, had previously noticed a e from China.

    The surge from Russia and Kyrgyzstan also hit the website of the Chamber of Commerce of Madeline Island, a tiny spot in Lake Superior that is also in Bayfield County.

    http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/12/12/une...ises-eyebrows/



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    "The FBI briefers think in terms of criminal standards — can we prove this in court," one of the officials said. "The CIA briefers weigh the preponderance of intelligence and then make judgment calls to help policymakers make informed decisions. High confidence for them means 'we're pretty damn sure.' It doesn't mean they can prove it in court."

    The FBI is not sold on the idea that Russia had a particular aim in its meddling. "There's no question that [the Russians'] efforts went one way, but it's not clear that they have a specific goal or mix of related goals," said one U.S. official.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...?client=safari

    I think I'll stick with the "prove it in court" guys' conclusions, not the theories spread by the Obama-appointed "we're pretty damn sure" guys.

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    "The FBI briefers think in terms of criminal standards — can we prove this in court," one of the officials said. "The CIA briefers weigh the preponderance of intelligence and then make judgment calls to help policymakers make informed decisions. High confidence for them means 'we're pretty damn sure.' It doesn't mean they can prove it in court."

    The FBI is not sold on the idea that Russia had a particular aim in its meddling. "There's no question that [the Russians'] efforts went one way, but it's not clear that they have a specific goal or mix of related goals," said one U.S. official.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...?client=safari

    I think I'll stick with the "prove it in court" guys' conclusions, not the theories spread by the Obama-appointed "we're pretty damn sure" guys.
    The prove it in court guys concluded there was Russian meddling. President elect Donald was on TV yesterday denying that reality.

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    Nope. You're Lying, Trump

    This is long ago history for a lot of people. But as long as Trump is raising the issue, let's revisit it.

    Donald Trump says the US Intelligence Community got it wrong about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.

    So, he reasons, it's probably getting it wrong now about Russia tampering in the US election. This is not what happened fifteen years ago. What did happen is actually highly instructive of what we should be wary of after January 20th.


    Going back into the Clinton years and before it was assumed in the US intelligence community that Saddam Hussein's Iraq had some continuing chemical weapons program. Post invasion we learned that was wrong. But chemical weapons, as hideous as they are, were never enough to spur the fears the Bush administration used to justify the invasion of Iraq. They needed much more.

    They needed ties to terrorism and an Iraqi nuclear weapons program or biological weapons program.


    The US intelligence agencies saw little evidence for either - especially an active nuclear weapons program or ties to international terrorism, particularly ties to 9/11 which Bush administration officials were eager to find.


    So there was a year long process in which the Bush administration pressured the CIA and other intelligence agencies to come up with evidence. To some degree, the CIA did do that, but never as much as the White House and key appointees at the Pentagon wanted. But through the roughly 18 months between the 9/11 attacks and the invasion of Iraq there was a running war within the US government. Indeed, CIA and other intelligence agency officials ran an on-going effort to prevent the President and other high level administration officials from publicly disclosing misleading or erroneous claims about US intelligence. One of the biggest fights was over statements about intelligence about nuclear weapons - uranium, certain high tolerance parts which could be used for nuclear weapons.


    This is at best a qualified defense of the CIA. To a real extent, they gave in to the Bush administration.

    What we are seeing now is people being upset with President Obama (with some reason) for not sufficiently pushing or sounding the alarm about what the intelligence agencies were finding. In other words, perhaps erring on the other side of the equation.

    Even more importantly, once President Trump is in office and his extremely partisan CIA nominee, Mike Pompeo, you can guess how aggressively they will look to get to the bottom of Russian state subversion of the 2016 election.

    Trump's claims about the US intelligence community and weapons of mass destruction is about as solid as his oft-repeated claim that he opposed the US invasion of Iraq.


    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...+%28TPMNews%29

    So, Trash LIES again,
    and again, and again, and again, and again, and again.

    And you Trash supporters don't GAF.



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