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    I disagree. Conspira s aren't big on admitting when they're wrong. Once they get far enough down the rabbit hole of a conspiracy theory, confirmation bias takes over and every piece of evidence that refutes it becomes part of the conspiracy. At this point, TSA will probably never stop spamming this nonsense.
    What piece of evidence have you provided that disputes anything I've put forth? I'll wait.

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    24 hours without an update? TSA get crackin, you got bills to pay, !
    DOJ cover for Saudi assets

    The most perceptive insights on VOAT are focused on Arab-Saudi ownership of the entire city block underneath Comet Pizza and a nearby pizzeria called Besta (not Basta, the Italian word for enough or too much), operated by Abdul Hamade (Abdel Rahmann Hammad), who is also owner of the Boli pizza chain) and Samir Sbitan. Besta, as in bestiality, has for its logo the “Boy Lovers” symbol, a triangular spiral. Are there any sheep out back?


    The entire lot under Besta and Comet is owned, on paper at least, by attorney Andrew J. Kline, a graduate of the Kennedy School at Harvard. To disguise his government work at the Department of Justice, Kline hides behind a front business, the “Veritas” law office located on Dupont Circle and with a field office in Chevy Chase, near Comet Pizza. Further pursuit by online researchers showed the same curly-haired lawyer Kline to be a Bill Clinton appointee in the Department of Justice (DOJ) Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit, when Janet Reno was Attorney General.


    The junior partner at Veritas is Stephen J. Whelan, who worked previously at Metro (the D.C. Transport Agency), an interesting coincidence with the controversy over the old Red Line Tunnel under Connecticut Avenue, mentioned in a John Podesta email.
    Kline’s employment with Justice causes some befuddlement among Pizzagate hunters, as it raises the question of whether Comet Pizza is an FBI honey trap to nab international child-smugglers. My educated guess is no, based on my work in an undercover journalistic probe into the secret activities of the human-trafficking bureau at Justice and the State Department.


    Despite its pretense of stopping people smugglers, the human trafficking program does the exact opposite, organizing and facilitating the transport of, say, North Koreans and Chinese Uyghurs into Thailand and onto the US territory of Saipan. U.S. consular officers provide money and fake passports to “snakeheads” from China and, more recently, Turkish traffickers who transported Mideast and African migrants by boat to Greece and onto Germany since the summer of 2015. The human trafficking officers aid and abet the flow of illegals, and often prevent immigration and Border Patrol from detaining their live cargo.


    Certainly, the Podesta brothers would not be assigned to a honey trap, as that would compromise their intelligence roles. The large property in Chevy Chase has to be part of a political bribery deal between the Arabs and the Clintons, now being protected by the Obama administration.

    IOUs from the UAE


    It is a common practice for foreign-owned properties to be administered by a proxy registered “owner”, like Kline, on behalf of a foreign company like Dhs.CON.N.E.B. Let’s examine this curious company name, with a little help from my past experience in the Gulf States. First, Dhs in this case does not refer to Department of Homeland Security. It stands for Dirhams, the currency of the United Arab Emirates (UAE). CON is short for Construction and N.E.B. stands for National Engineering Bureau LLC (limited liability company).


    This Dubai-owned property group, likely to be financed by the Saudis, has owned the lot for longer than a decade. The primary motive for the property does not appear to be rental income but instead is a vehicle to provide funds to the Clintons. The blog Lux E Tenebris has been so kind as to provide a map of the Dubai-owned lot on either side of Connecticut Avenue.


    The storefronts are occupied by Comet Pizza; Bucks Fishing and Camping restaurant (also owned by Alefantes); Besta Pizza run by Arabs; Politics and Prose bookstore owned by Lissa Muscatine, a senior speechwriter for then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and her husband Bradley Graham with The Washington Post. Across the street is Beyond Borders, a Clinton Foundation-funded NGO involved with promoting the European refugee crisis; and Terasol Bistro, whose website is decorated with the pedophile trapped heart symbol.


    By now, with so many facts vetted and verified, Pizzagate is clearly not fake news, Congressmen, and you’re going to have to face the facts and nothing but the facts.

    High-class Brothels for Small Vices


    Next question: What do the rich Arab investors get in return? As this question spun around in my brain, the image that popped up out of the memory banks was of a naked pros ute standing inside an upright steel coffin, that image being from the cover of of the second edition of Len Deighton’s 1967 potboiler “An Expensive Place to Die”.

    Here’s the jacket blurb:

    “A 'clinic' on Paris's Avenue Foch designed to cater lavishly for multiple perversions, staffed by a group of sexually and intellectually high-powered girls and equipped with devices ranging from an Iron Maiden to psychedelic truth-drugs that's the set-up operated by the enigmatic Monsieur Daft. “Naturally, it has a hidden purpose: to compile dossiers of tape and film on influential political clients from East and West. Into this twilight world of decadence and hidden motives come the agents of four world powers. Are they after Datt's pornographic blackmail dossiers? Or is their purpose, altogether more deadly than a trip to the blue movies?”


    Fact being stranger than fiction is something I can attest to after 30 years of investigative journalism. What if your wealthy and powerful target has already tried everything, including Vegas hookers, Dallas lap dancers, Asian massage, Castro Street bath houses, Thai transves es and foxy Euros on Avenue Foch, what else is new? What about sex with a 10-month-old blonde German girl, like the one advertised by Alefantes? Or a boisterous white American boy of 7 who’s just now learning about the wonders of erectile tissue? In a decadent world of cosmetic surgery and boob jobs, innocent children are caviar to the connoisseur.


    For the jaded sheikh or defense minister, who’s seen and done everything, it’s no great thrill to watch naked lads sliding down the handrail of a staircase, a scene of degraded commercialized sex in the male brothel scene from Marcel Proust’s Remembrance of Things Past. Instead of overt sexuality, what if your guests were invited to an informal pizza dinner at your home and discovered “the neighbor’s kids” skinny dipping in the heated pool? What more could you offer as a token of friendship than an invitation to a master bedroom with its own jacuzzi for each of the guests to share with a little companion?


    Welcome to the family, make yourself at home. Help yourself to wine and the pantry and the kids. Oh, phone. Darn, there’s noise from the human rights crowd about Yemen, but another few million on top of the F-18 contract should be enough to handle Congress. We’ll deal with it in the morning. Ain’t she as cute as a doll? Wish I had a daughter like that. Enjoy the late night show, buddy.


    Would the foreign dignitaries spot the hidden camera and microphone? Or are they too tantalized to notice? And that’s why intelligence services are pressing Congress crack down on fake news to protect their dirty little secret. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton agitates for children’s rights. It would be a comedy of hypocrisy if little kids were not being traumatized and dumped into landfills.

    https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1480895

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    James Alefantis funds art auctions and mingles with diplomats:
    http://www.transformerdc.org/special...-benefit-party
    Diplomatic Chairs of the Event Over the Years:

    • The Ambassador of Italy, Armando Varricchio and Mrs. Varricchio - 2016
    • The Ambassador of France, Gérard Araud - 2015
    • Ambassador Björn Lyrvall & Madeleine Lyrvall of the Embassy of Sweden - 2014
    • The Ambassador of Colombia, His Excellency Carlos Urrutia - 2013
    • The Ambassador of Spain, His Excellency Ramón Gil-Casares -2012
    • The Ambassador of Australia, His Excellency The Honorable Kim Beazley, AC & Ms. Susie Annus -2011
    • The Ambassador of Mexico, His Excellency Arturo Sarukhan, and Mrs. Veronica Valencia-Sarukhan -2010
    • The Ambassador of Mexico, His Excellency Arturo Sarukhan, and Mrs. Veronica Valencia-Sarukhan - 2011

    Tony Podesta: http://www.transformerdc.org/special...-benefit-party
    Alefantis helps sponsor the event every year. He pops up in almost every image album.
    There appears to be a lot of political power and money at this event. It is important to see if any of these connections are significant.
    Alefantis and Brock at the 2015 auction: http://www.transformerdc.org/images/uploads/gallery/866/img_0910_(1)__large.jpgJPG
    When looking through the above information I found this connect
    I found a photographer friend of James Alefantis, his name is Max Hirshfeld: http://archive.is/DoFmU Max Hirsheld's bio: http://archive.is/dsBTc http://archive.is/SiEAY
    In Haiti there are over one million orphans. After the earthquake in 2010 thousands of these children were left homeless or were sent to orphanages because their parents could not provide for them. Eighteen months after the earthquake I photographed in three orphanages in both the devastated city of Port-Au-Prince and in the untouched village of Williamson. of the more than 100 children that I photographed the overwhelming majority exhibited the resiliency that has been the hallmark of the Haitian people since declaring independence from France in 1804.
    In the face of devastating events, including the recent widespread outbreak of cholera, the people of Haiti continue to show incredible resolve in the face of almost insurmountable odds.



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    Partial transcript from CBS video below.
    CBS INTERVIEWER: Cases like this in which foreign workers complain of being virtual slaves to foreign diplomats here in America are not uncommon. Advocates for the victims say the State Department and Homeland Security are investigating more cases than ever – the problem is diplomatic immunity.”
    MARTINA VANDENBERG, HUMAN TRAFFICKING PRO BONO LEGAL CENTER: “It’s very difficult to prosecute someone who has full diplomatic immunity.”
    CBS INTERVIEWER: Martina Vandenberg of the Human Trafficking Pro Bono Legal Center says the Justice Department can attempt to prosecute traffickers who are diplomats, but after 15 years and dozens of cases she say, that’s only happened twice [prosecution].”
    INTERVIEWER: “You’re saying that the administration needs to make that decision, to prosecute more often?”
    VANDENBERG: “That’s exactly right. This is a little known and little recognized and horrible side of human trafficking here in the United States…Right here in Washington D.C.”
    “Literally ten miles from the White House, people being held in homes, forced to work, paid absolutely nothing, sometimes physically abused, sometimes sexually abused.”
    INTERVIEWER: “The Saudi’s did not respond to our request for comment. Sources confirm the diplomat on this compound has full immunity.”
    End Transcript
    “After a tip to a telephone hotline, agents from the State Department spoke to two Filipino women employed in a compound owned by the Saudi military in McLean, Va., just across the Potomac River from Washington.”
    “The women told agents they are household workers brought to the U.S. legally, but they complained they’ve never been allowed to leave the compound and said they felt like indentured servants. Special agent John Torres, of the Department of Homeland Security, calls it a possible case of human trafficking.” Source: CBS

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    James Alefantis funds art auctions and mingles with diplomats:
    http://www.transformerdc.org/special...-benefit-party
    Diplomatic Chairs of the Event Over the Years:

    • The Ambassador of Italy, Armando Varricchio and Mrs. Varricchio - 2016
    • The Ambassador of France, Gérard Araud - 2015
    • Ambassador Björn Lyrvall & Madeleine Lyrvall of the Embassy of Sweden - 2014
    • The Ambassador of Colombia, His Excellency Carlos Urrutia - 2013
    • The Ambassador of Spain, His Excellency Ramón Gil-Casares -2012
    • The Ambassador of Australia, His Excellency The Honorable Kim Beazley, AC & Ms. Susie Annus -2011
    • The Ambassador of Mexico, His Excellency Arturo Sarukhan, and Mrs. Veronica Valencia-Sarukhan -2010
    • The Ambassador of Mexico, His Excellency Arturo Sarukhan, and Mrs. Veronica Valencia-Sarukhan - 2011

    Tony Podesta: http://www.transformerdc.org/special...-benefit-party
    Alefantis helps sponsor the event every year. He pops up in almost every image album.
    There appears to be a lot of political power and money at this event. It is important to see if any of these connections are significant.
    Alefantis and Brock at the 2015 auction: http://www.transformerdc.org/images/uploads/gallery/866/img_0910_(1)__large.jpgJPG
    When looking through the above information I found this connect
    I found a photographer friend of James Alefantis, his name is Max Hirshfeld: http://archive.is/DoFmU Max Hirsheld's bio: http://archive.is/dsBTc http://archive.is/SiEAY
    In Haiti there are over one million orphans. After the earthquake in 2010 thousands of these children were left homeless or were sent to orphanages because their parents could not provide for them. Eighteen months after the earthquake I photographed in three orphanages in both the devastated city of Port-Au-Prince and in the untouched village of Williamson. of the more than 100 children that I photographed the overwhelming majority exhibited the resiliency that has been the hallmark of the Haitian people since declaring independence from France in 1804.
    In the face of devastating events, including the recent widespread outbreak of cholera, the people of Haiti continue to show incredible resolve in the face of almost insurmountable odds.


    Saudi Arabia Human Trafficking Su ions: Virginia Diplomatic Compound Under Investigation

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3196657.html

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    I ran all the other articles through the way back machine and they showed up in archives, Norwegian story did not.
    Must have been human error on your part. I gave you the Wayback Machine link to that story on the in the post you quoted.

    Here it is again: https://web.archive.org/web/20161121...fe7_story.html

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    Your stubbornness on this very simple and verifiable hoax calls into question your actual belief in any of this, which makes me curious again as to the motivation behind your commitment to making sure every nugget is published here.
    Last edited by Spurminator; 12-12-2016 at 01:07 PM.

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    Benghazi!

    emails!

    PizzaGate!

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    Benghazi!

    emails!

    PizzaGate!
    Vote Recount!!!

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    What piece of evidence have you provided that disputes anything I've put forth? I'll wait.
    You still haven't presented any evidence. All you've posted is a bunch of dirt on complete strangers that you've automatically assumed the worst of. As I've continued to say throughout this thread, no sane person is going to believe this without legitimate evidence and/or credible accusers. In the absence of any of that, Pizzagate really isn't any different than the Duke lacrosse scandal or Jackie in the Rolling Stone.

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    Must have been human error on your part. I gave you the Wayback Machine link to that story on the in the post you quoted.

    Here it is again: https://web.archive.org/web/20161121...fe7_story.html
    It is entirely possible it was an error on my part. I tried again and it said I'd have to pay a fee since my five free searches are used up.

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    You still haven't presented any evidence. All you've posted is a bunch of dirt on complete strangers that you've automatically assumed the worst of. As I've continued to say throughout this thread, no sane person is going to believe this without legitimate evidence and/or credible accusers. In the absence of any of that, Pizzagate really isn't any different than the Duke lacrosse scandal or Jackie in the Rolling Stone.
    I've provided a ton of cir stantial evidence, none of which you've refuted.

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    Important to note that some of the e-mails on Wikileaks are only released in part. When exploring those, it's essential to open the tab 'view original PDF' to realize what's been cut.
    A) December 1st, 2009:
    Marty Torrey e-mails HRC with the news Dave Stone has passed away, and they discuss it. View original PDF, scroll all the way to the bottom and follow the exchange of 4 e-mails. The first one, on November 25th from Marty to HRC, is a big paragraph fully censored, only the subject can be seen - Dave Stone. HRC replies "I am so saddened by this tragic loss..." and then comes another huge paragraph fully censored. On December 1st, Marty replies to HRC and adds a CC, and again the paragraph is fully censored. So we have three very important exchanges of information regarding Dave Stone that we have no idea what they're about. At least 3 big paragraphs are omitted. All we know is he died and they commented extensively on it. This first set of e-mails is important because it leaves us with 2 guarantees: Dave Stone got out of the picture in 2009, and there was something very secretive about him. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/16177


    B) April 8th, 2010:
    Marty Torrey e-mails HRC wanting to help with the human trafficking effort. You can read this e-mail from two perspectives: that he’s talking about fighting against human trafficking, or he’s talking about helping to grow human trafficking. All of the following e-mails below will have to be read using these two perspectives – are they talking about a legitimate effort to reduce it, or are they talking straightforward in plain view about how to grow it? This second set of e-mails is important because it’s where two people are first mentioned: Jim Blom, who was Dave Stone’s former partner, and is now the new partner of Marty Torrey; and Simon Stringer, the software guy. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/268


    C) April 15th, 2010:
    This is where it gets interesting. Marty e-mails HRC saying he and Jim Blom are setting up a company to “help in the human trafficking effort.” Again you can read this from both perspectives, the totally legitimate one or the wtf one. HRC replies adding Kris M Balderston to the conversation. Marty replies to both Kris and HRC giving a background introduction to his new partner Jim Blom. This introduction has a key sentence I want you to focus on:

    “Jim (James F.)Blom is Dave's former business partner in Alacrity Homeland Group. Lives in San Francisco w/ wife and 2 kids. American, but well healed due to long family history in Norwegian shipping companies. Grandfather was pals with Onassis. You get the picture.” https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/216

    Now let’s pause and be fully skeptical: suppose I’m totally mistaken and all those e-mails are about a legitimate effort to help fight human trafficking:

    “American, but well healed” – So you’re trying to win a contract with the U.S. State Department, you’re talking to U.S. Government Officials, and you bluntly offend the Americans this way? Wtf? From a business or political point of view, this doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. Let's keep in mind this is 2010 and HRC was the U.S. Secretary of State (fourth most important cabinet member according to wikipedia), so she gets addressed with those words, to which she only replies "Pls keep me updated on this project."
    “long family history in Norwegian shipping companies” – From the legitimate perspective why is this relevant? From the wtf perspective and after this weekend, it surely stands out.
    “Grandfather was pals with Onassis” – From the legitimate perspective why is this relevant? If you’re trying to win a contract with the U.S. State Department to help fight human trafficking, why does it matter that his grandfather was close friends with a Greek billionaire? From the wtf perspective it gives us another name to put a question mark on.

    D) June 29th, 2010:
    When you open the original PDF, you’ll see it’s a heavilly censored e-mail exchange regarding Afghanistan that doesn’t leave much room for interpretation. However, this last set of e-mails is important because of two things: the e-mail signature at the very bottom is partially omitted, but it shows a UK address and a website – becatech.com. Secondly, it connects Marty Torrey and Simon Stringer to Afghanistan. So why in are Afghanistan Special Ops, a UK company, and the guys from the human trafficking effort, all together on a highly censored e-mail conversation? https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/29906


    Please take your time to read everything carefully, the words used, and make your own conclusions.

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    Your stubbornness on this very simple and verifiable hoax calls into question your actual belief in any of this, which makes me curious again as to the motivation behind your commitment to making sure every nugget is published here.

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    It is entirely possible it was an error on my part. I tried again and it said I'd have to pay a fee since my five free searches are used up.
    You can probably write that off as a business expense. Just make sure Dmitry approves it first.

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    Majestic Ape-Neutered Noel---video from a routine performer at Comet Pizza

    Check out the still shots
















    "I can read chinese.
    The drawings with the chinese character depict scenes from the rape of Nanking, in which two hundred thousand women and children were raped and murdered by the japanese. It was one of the war crimes in ww2"

































    All pictures here

    https://sli.mg/a/LbQfxH

    background on the picture of "Baba"

    Molestation victim, Afshin, describes how he was molested

    Molestation victim, Hans, describes how he was molested

    Molestation victim, Jed, describes how he was molested

    Molestation victim, Jens, describes how he was molested

    Molestation victim, Keith, describes how he was molested

    A former Student of Sathya Sai Baba's university describes how Sathya Sai molested his friends

    Read about the molestations of young boys in the Sathya Sai Baba university hostel

    Another article discussin the molestations of boys by Sathya Sai Baba.

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    Your stubbornness on this very simple and verifiable hoax calls into question your actual belief in any of this, which makes me curious again as to the motivation behind your commitment to making sure every nugget is published here.
    I'll call this a hoax if you call the Holocaust a hoax because the Holocaust has about the same amount of evidence as this

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    I'll call this a hoax if you call the Holocaust a hoax because the Holocaust has about the same amount of evidence as this
    the holocaust actually has victims who have given their accounts of what happened, for starters

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    It is entirely possible it was an error on my part. I tried again and it said I'd have to pay a fee since my five free searches are used up.
    Must have been another human error because there is no limit on free searches on the Wayback Machine. Or you're just lying.

    Anyway here is a screenshot.


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    Must have been another human error because there is no limit on free searches on the Wayback Machine. Or you're just lying.

    Anyway here is a screenshot.

    Yes it was human error. This popped up on my screen when I tried to click your link, same thing that popped up for me the last time I tried to search it. I assumed it was for the archive site. I just clicked the link and realized I have to pay to read WaPo articles.




    What are your thoughts on the Majestic Ape screen grabs? Just another coincidence that they contain pictures of child rape and torture? The one I found most interesting was the picture of the naked guy laying down with blood on the bottom of his feet and ass crack. Tony Podesta's favorite Serbian artist had red on the feet and asses of the girls on their knees in that tiled bathroom painting.

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    the holocaust actually has victims who have given their accounts of what happened, for starters
    How long did it take for Dutroux victims to speak out? How long before Sandusky victims spoke out?

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    How long did it take for Dutroux victims to speak out? How long before Sandusky victims spoke out?
    were prosecutors aware of dutroux's victims before pressing charges? right... it started from missing person reports after the girls were abducted.

    what about sandusky? oh yeah, the sandusky investigations STARTED when one of his victims reported what happened

    who are the victims of comet pizza and spirit cooking?

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    were prosecutors aware of dutroux's victims before pressing charges? right... it started from missing person reports after the girls were abducted.

    what about sandusky? oh yeah, the sandusky investigations STARTED when one of his victims reported what happened

    who are the victims of comet pizza and spirit cooking?
    You failed to answer the questions. Did the victims come forward immediately after being raped and molested? Because you'll fail to answer the questions again I'll answer for you. The victims did not come forward immediately.

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    You failed to answer the questions. Did the victims come forward immediately after being raped and molested? Because you'll fail to answer the questions again I'll answer for you. The victims did not come forward immediately.
    the importance isn't having all the victims come forward in concert. the importance is knowing there actually was a victim in the first place to warrant investigation

    its like starting a murder investigation before even knowing anybody is killed or even missing

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    the importance isn't having all the victims come forward in concert. the importance is knowing there actually was a victim in the first place to warrant investigation

    its like starting a murder investigation before even knowing anybody is killed or even missing
    Victims oftentimes don't come forward in child rape and pedophilia.


    And your last statement is just re ed. If a bloody dress was found in the woods, or a bloody knife was found on the ground and there were blood splatters nearby there wouldn't be an investigation?

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