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    Winter starts December 21? Wtf

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    What if the homeless guy owned the home you are renting?

    So you guys are OK with corporate eminent domain...
    The Indians don't own the land. It's not on the reservation. Eminent domain is not involved.

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    I just hope that nobody gets hurt…I was sad that old guy hiding under neath blue tarp,
    at frozen unoccupied bird sanctuary, with his Henry Big Boy Lever Action “Lavoy Fini ” got shot…



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    are you one of those "the redskins should change their name" pricks?
    Of course they should change the name. But I dont lose sleep over it.

    But standing rock? yeah thats a battle to fight. And my s will fight to the end. This is nothing by the end of the campaign the corporations will be begging for forgivenes.

    Long live mother earth.

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    if the redskins change their name, i'll burn that reservation to the ground. ****

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    North Dakota Oil Pipeline Spills An Estimated 176,000 Gallons

    The leak is about 150 miles from the Standing Rock protests against the Dakota Access pipeline.

    About 150 miles from where thousands have protested for months that the Dakota Access pipeline could threaten a Sioux tribe’s water supply, a pipeline in the western part of North Dakota has spilled more than 130,000 gallons of oil into a creek, state officials said.

    In all, the Belle Fourche pipeline lost 4,200 barrels of crude oil, or more than 176,000 gallons, before operators shut it down, according to state Department of Health spokeswoman Jennifer Skjod. Most of the oil flowed into the Ash Coulee Creek near Belfield, Skjod said.


    It’s unclear what caused the break, according to Wendy Owen, a spokeswoman for Wyoming-based True Companies, which owns the pipeline. A landowner discovered the leak Dec. 5.

    The company uses monitoring technology designed to detect leaks, but it possibly failed because of “the intermittent nature of the flow” of oil through the pipeline

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...in%20HuffPost&

    The NAs are such silly ers. They have nothing to worry about, the risks of pipeline spills are strictly theoretical, academic. And anyway, head said "modern technology" eliminates risk

    "possibly" failed?



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    The Redskins should change their name just out of embarrassment, nothing to do with my people.

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    The activists bearing freezing temperatures to protest the Dakota Access Pipeline seem to have won a victory in North Dakota last week after the Obama administration rejected a crucial permit needed to complete the controversial project. But while members of the Standing Rock Sioux and their supporters have protested the construction of the pipeline slated to run just a half-mile beyond their border, other tribes have peacefully courted deals for pipelines that run through the middle of their reservations. This stark contrast illustrates the importance of tribal jurisdiction and the detrimental effects of federal policies that limit development opportunities on many tribal lands. In most cases, federal policies discourage developers from doing business on Native American reservations in the first place, in effect denying tribes the opportunity to benefit from energy projects such as the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL). In some cases, however, tribes have succeeded in developing their own energy resources for the benefit of tribal members and their communities. The Three Affiliated Tribes (the Mandan, the Hidatsa, and the Sahnish) of the Fort Berthold Reservation, for example, which sits just 150 miles north of the Standing Rock Sioux, have more than 4,000 miles of pipelines crossing their reservation, contributing to the hundreds of million dollars the tribes earn from energy-development activities each year. In Colorado, the Southern Ute tribe controls 1,600 oil and natural-gas wells, including several pipelines, in addition to operating their own energy company that develops oil and gas throughout the western U.S. The tribe’s success in the energy sector has allowed it to maintain “a higher long-term credit rating than Wells Fargo & Co.,” according to a Bloomberg Markets story published in October. Where pipelines cross tribal lands, tribes have some say in weighing the benefits and costs of energy development, and they reap direct benefits if they choose to say yes to the projects. Revenues from oil and gas development and related infrastructure provide much-needed income for tribal members and their communities. Energy-development activities on tribal lands generated more than $850 million for Native Americans last year, according to the Department of the Interior; the funds are often used to develop infrastructure, provide health care and education, and support community programs on tribal lands. In the case of the Standing Rock Sioux, the tribe didn’t have the chance to benefit from the DAPL project because the pipeline company, Energy Transfer Partners, opted to route the project around the tribe’s reservation instead of trying to negotiate a pipeline agreement directly with the tribe. This should come as no surprise. Developers routinely avoid doing business with tribes because federal regulations make it so burdensome. J. W. McCartney, a pipeline industry expert, advised companies, as far back as 1982, to simply “go around Indian lands” because these regulations can be “too costly and time consuming” to even bother trying to strike a deal with tribes. Developers routinely avoid doing business with tribes because federal regulations make it so burdensome. The Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) is involved in nearly every aspect of energy development on Indians lands, including reviewing and approving pipeline agreements and rights-of-way approvals, and the process is notoriously inefficient. A 2015 Government Accountability Office (GAO) report observed that “the added complexity of the federal process stops many developers from pursuing Indian oil and gas resources for development” and that the process “can involve significantly more steps than the development of private or state resources, increase development costs, and add to the timeline for development.” The GAO report noted further that in 2014, the Southern Ute tribe reported that the BIA’s review of several of its pipeline rights-of-way agreements took as long as eight years. A simple review of a wind-energy lease on the Rosebud Sioux Reservation in South Dakota took a year and a half for the BIA to review. According to the developer, the delay made the project lose its agreement with the local utility, resulting in a loss of revenue for the company and the tribe. The Trump administration may change much of this status quo if it gives tribes more jurisdiction over their own lands and natural resources, as recently reported by Reuters and others. Trump’s newly formed Native American Affairs Coalition wants to free tribal resources from what they described to Reuters as “a suffocating federal bureaucracy.” As Markwayne Mullin, a U.S. representative from Oklahoma and a Cherokee tribe member who is co-chairing Trump’s coalition, put it in a press release on December 5: “It is time to end the overreaching paternalism that has held American Indians back from being the drivers of their own destiny.” MORE DAKOTA ACCESS PIPELINE It’s no surprise that Indians want jurisdiction over the resources that belong to them, including the reservation land through which pipelines run. All Indian lands are held in trust by the federal government, which is responsible for managing the lands for the benefit of Native Americans. But, by all accounts, the federal government has failed to live up to this responsibility, and Native Americans remain one of the most impoverished — and the most regulated — communities in the United States. Ultimately, the Obama administration suc bed to the protester’s pressure at Standing Rock. But the administration didn’t address a more fundamental question: Why shouldn’t Native Americans have the same rights to their own resources that all other Americans have? The pipeline’s future now lies with the next administration. Trump’s work with the Native American Affairs Coalition provides some hope that his administration will clarify tribal rights and give Native Americans the autonomy — and the economic opportunities — they deserve.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...al-regulations

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    see what happens when you let them live?

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    North Dakota Oil Pipeline Spills An Estimated 176,000 Gallons

    The leak is about 150 miles from the Standing Rock protests against the Dakota Access pipeline.

    About 150 miles from where thousands have protested for months that the Dakota Access pipeline could threaten a Sioux tribe’s water supply, a pipeline in the western part of North Dakota has spilled more than 130,000 gallons of oil into a creek, state officials said.

    In all, the Belle Fourche pipeline lost 4,200 barrels of crude oil, or more than 176,000 gallons, before operators shut it down, according to state Department of Health spokeswoman Jennifer Skjod. Most of the oil flowed into the Ash Coulee Creek near Belfield, Skjod said.


    It’s unclear what caused the break, according to Wendy Owen, a spokeswoman for Wyoming-based True Companies, which owns the pipeline. A landowner discovered the leak Dec. 5.

    The company uses monitoring technology designed to detect leaks, but it possibly failed because of “the intermittent nature of the flow” of oil through the pipeline

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...in%20HuffPost&

    The NAs are such silly ers. They have nothing to worry about, the risks of pipeline spills are strictly theoretical, academic. And anyway, head said "modern technology" eliminates risk

    "possibly" failed?


    The ironic part of this is that the pipeline appears to be above ground at the spill site. Shifting soils due to freeze/thaw cycles seem to be the implied cause, which would not be the case in a completely buried pipeline.

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    why not, cooler girl?

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    A 30-inch gas pipeline exploded and burned, in Estill County, Kentucky, on the evening of January 2.

    The rupture created a crater approximately 86 feet long by 22 feet wide, and expelled a number of pieces of pipe as far as 800 feet from the rupture center.

    Flames were reported reaching over 1,000 feet high.

    Residents up to a mile away from the failure were evacuated. There were no injuries.

    The cause was overstress from land movement

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_the_United_States_in _the_21st_century

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    http://www.laweekly.com/news/japanes...ession-2530574



    Since we have two irrelevant responses here i figured i'd add a third.

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    Dakota Access company seeks to block pipeline study

    The company building the Dakota Access oil pipeline wants a federal judge to block the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers from launching a full environmental study of the $3.8 billion pipeline's disputed crossing of a Missouri River reservoir in North Dakota.

    Texas-based Energy Transfer Partners asked U.S. District Judge James Boasberg on Tuesday to stop the Corps from publishing a notice in the Federal Register on Wednesday announcing the study. ETP wants any further study put on hold until Boasberg, in Washington, D.C., rules on whether ETP already has the necessary permission to lay pipe under Lake Oahe—the reservoir that's the water source for the Standing Rock Sioux tribe.

    ETP wants to block further study so that the decision on the permitting, which is likely weeks away, will be "free from the risk that its ruling will be frustrated or thwarted by new governmental actions." The Corps did not immediately respond to ETP's request.


    https://phys.org/news/2017-01-dakota...-pipeline.html

    I have no doubt Trash's Sky People will let ETP have all its pipelines, which includes on in LA, which is already owned, and polluted, by BigOil.


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    oops

    An inconvenient spill: Pipeline burst provides perfect reminder of why DAPL shouldn't be built


    the oil spill on the Ocean Man First Nation appears to have been contained in a natural basin, limiting the damage. There’s absolutely no guarantee that the Standing Rock Sioux would be equally lucky should the DAPL pipeline burst on their traditional land or under Lake Oahe.

    Since 2006, the United States alone has averaged more than 300 pipeline spills a year, and technology to predict and monitor leaks is notoriously unreliable.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/0...28Daily+Kos%29

    Yellowstone river, two of them:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_River_oil_spill





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    Lol. Too bad. It's being built. And all the crying in the world isn't going to stand in the way of progress. Once that pipeline is built you'll literally be on the wrong side of history.

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    ANOTHER Oil Pipeline Leak Just Spilled 50,400 Gallons Into Yellowstone River, Proving Native Protesters Right

    A Montana pipeline burst sent as much as 50,400 gallons of oil gushing into the Yellowstone River, prompting the governor to declare a state of emergency.

    Residents in nearby cities were told not to drink the tap water, which some said smelled like diesel.

    The massive oil spill happened when the 12-inch pipeline, which crosses the Yellowstone River, ruptured Saturday about 5 miles upstream from Glendive,

    http://alternativemediasyndicate.com...testers-right/

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    THE INFILTRATOR

    How an Undercover Oil Industry Mercenary Tricked Pipeline Opponents Into Believing He Was One of Them

    A former Marine working for the private security firm TigerSwan infiltrated an array of anti-Dakota Access pipeline groups at Standing Rock and beyond.

    https://theintercept.com/2018/12/30/...standing-rock/

    The fascist, predatory, corrupt Capitalist American Empire is using its overseas warriors to attack domestic dissenters.





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    Pipeline Protesters Could Face 20 Years in Prison Under Bill in Texas House


    https://www.texasobserver.org/pipeli...n-texas-house/

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