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  1. #76
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    when Wilson's team fails it's his fault. When Andrew Tannehill's team fails it's everyone else's fault.
    Pretty much. And Luck is probably one of the most overrated QBS of all time

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    when Wilson's team fails it's his fault. When Andrew Tannehill's team fails it's everyone else's fault.
    Wilson's team has an elite head coach, one of the greatest defenses in NFL history, Team Leader Rawls, Jimmy Graham, and Doug Baldwin (the best slot receiver in the league).

    Luck's team has T.Y. Hilton, the corpses of Frank Gore and Adam Vinatieri, and....?

    The fact that Struggle is still a pedestrian game manager who s the bed in the playoffs and can't function with even just one player missing from his historically-stacked secondary is downright pathetic. He would be out of the league already if he got drafted to this Colts team, with a loser coach and no O-line or defense.

    People are easier on Luck because we see the garbage he's had to work with his whole career. It's downright criminal how badly the Colts have failed to put a real team around him. And one of the biggest reasons why Struggle is so polarizing is because people like you and Crickets pretend he's better than actual franchise quarterbacks while ignoring the insanely stacked team that carries him every week.

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    Seriously, Struggle Wilson nuthuggers are the Kobe fans of the NFL. They all over objectively better players while their mancrush's stacked teams win in spite of them.

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    you don't need a great defense to win the AFC South

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    Just because the Texans have sunk tons of picks and money into their defense and continue to be a joke doesn't mean you can realistically expect Luck to get by with the garbage fire Indy calls a defense. And the O-line is an even bigger issue than the defense. Only Cleveland has given up more sacks this year than the Colts. Luck's already played behind 35 different O-line combinations in his career, all of them ty. I'm not saying he needs a perfect O-line like the Cowboys or Raiders, but you can't keep putting him out there behind a bunch of turnstiles and letting him get flattened.

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    losing to the Texans. That same team with Matt Hasselbeck beat the Texans last year.

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    Jacoby Brissett destroyed the Texans

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    Seriously, Struggle Wilson nuthuggers are the Kobe fans of the NFL. They all over objectively better players while their mancrush's stacked teams win in spite of them.
    Do you understand PASSING STATS....at all? So the fact he led the NFL with a 110.1 passer ratings was because of the defense? The fact he has done things never seen before by any five season QB is because of the defense.

    You ever see the guy the play? So how come all those articles/videos agree with me and not you?

    So he was the 5th ranked QB in the NFL last season by the players was because of his defense?

    Dude, anyone telling us that Derek Anderson is better than Cam Newton obviously knows about football. And everytime I read you it becomes more clear that you don't understand the game at all.

    Where is his Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, GRONK?

    I think I'll go with what those who understand football say about Wilson, nort some freak who calls everyone a got and thinks Derek Anderson is better than Cam Newton and the great Peyton Manning sucks,

    Clipper Nation, you're an idiot, ok?

    I post that long list of all the historical things the young guy has done and you totally ignore all of it. You totally ignore reality. ya wander around in a fantasy land little fella, we all see it.

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    This is a pedestrian game manager, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~




    What ya do midget is totally ignore those articals and these videos, you won't watch this one, so ya stay ignorant as to just what it really going on with this great young QB.

    Google...the great Russell Wilson
    Youtube...Russell Wilson is fantastic

    (You won't, ya like stupid)

    So why do soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many who know football totally disagree with your Anderson is better than ass.

    His fellow NFLers ranked him....

    2013...22
    2014....20
    2015...17

    ...as best players in the NFL.

    None of them hang on a messageboard calling everyone a got, ok stupid?

    Chirp for us dummy, ok?
    Last edited by Avante; 12-13-2016 at 03:51 PM.

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    Avante, you should write up another fictional interview with Wilson.....that's always a sure fire sign of a guy that is enjoying his retirement.....ya know, by spending all day every day on the Internet getting on by a bunch of people you will never meet while pretending to be big and tough and accusing others of hiding.

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    Do you understand PASSING STATS....at all? So the fact he led the NFL with a 110.1 passer ratings was because of the defense?
    No, you don't understand passing stats. I've already explained to you in detail multiple times why passer rating is a flawed stat that overrates game managers like Struggle Wilson. You just aren't interested in understanding why others aren't nearly as impressed by him as you are. You just spam the same old over and over again and then declare victory when everyone else decides they have better things to do with their time than argue with a brick wall.

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    No, you don't understand passing stats. I've already explained to you in detail multiple times why passer rating is a flawed stat that overrates game managers like Struggle Wilson. You just aren't interested in understanding why others aren't nearly as impressed by him as you are. You just spam the same old over and over again and then declare victory when everyone else decides they have better things to do with their time than argue with a brick wall.
    If ya watched the videos, read the articles you'd see that yes others are as impressed with him as I am.

    Dude, his fellow players see him among the top 25 (22, 20, 17) players in the league. What about that don't you get?

    And you are 100% wrong about passer rating, which doesn't surprise me.

    Dude, you can't even figure out there is a reason Derek Anderson sits on a bench, ok? Calling the great Peyton Manning names......why? Bragging on the very average Joe Flacco, hahaha~~~~

    Sorry little fella but all I see from you is a little punk who don't know about game, ok?

    Tune in Thursday night and listen to how many times Jon Gruden (who know far more about the game than you do) brags on Russell Wilson, ok?

    I can hear him already....this Russell Wilson is incredible.

    A guy who brags on Derek Anderson has no business talking football at all.

    Gruden on Wilson...

    And though most questioned the selection of Wilson in the third round of that draft, ESPN’s Jon Gruden was one of the few voices who lauded the pick. At the time it seemed the team was set at quarterback, but Gruden was one of the first to predict the rookie from Wisconsin could win the starting job. “I love this pick,” he said. “If I were Matt Flynn and Tarvaris Jackson, I’d be leery of this kid. … If you give this kid a legitimate chance to win this job, he’ll win it. That’s how much confidence I have.”

    When will your dumbass FINALLY figure this out?

    I do hear it now....

    Gruden...5-11, drafted in the third round, and all the guy does is make plays, I like this Russell Wilson.
    Last edited by Avante; 12-13-2016 at 05:39 PM.

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    Avante, you should write up another fictional interview with Wilson.....that's always a sure fire sign of a guy that is enjoying his retirement.....ya know, by spending all day every day on the Internet getting on by a bunch of people you will never meet while pretending to be big and tough and accusing others of hiding.
    That coming from a guy who does nothing here but Avante, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~

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    But what should be done about the pedo problem in olangapo

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    But what should be done about the pedo problem in olangapo
    Dude, this is a football forum, ok?

    Will you ever grow up?

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    If ya watched the videos, read the articles you'd see that yes others are as impressed with him as I am.

    Dude, his fellow players see him among the top 25 (22, 20, 17) players in the league. What about that don't you get?

    And you are 100% wrong about passer rating, which doesn't surprise me.

    Dude, you can't even figure out there is a reason Derek Anderson sits on a bench, ok? Calling the great Peyton Manning names......why? Bragging on the very average Joe Flacco, hahaha~~~~

    Sorry little fella but all I see from you is a little punk who don't know about game, ok?

    Tune in Thursday night and listen to how many times Jon Gruden (who know far more about the game than you do) brags on Russell Wilson, ok?

    I can hear him already....this Russell Wilson is incredible.

    A guy who brags on Derek Anderson has no business talking football at all.

    Gruden on Wilson...

    And though most questioned the selection of Wilson in the third round of that draft, ESPN’s Jon Gruden was one of the few voices who lauded the pick. At the time it seemed the team was set at quarterback, but Gruden was one of the first to predict the rookie from Wisconsin could win the starting job. “I love this pick,” he said. “If I were Matt Flynn and Tarvaris Jackson, I’d be leery of this kid. … If you give this kid a legitimate chance to win this job, he’ll win it. That’s how much confidence I have.”

    When will your dumbass FINALLY figure this out?

    I do hear it now....

    Gruden...5-11, drafted in the third round, and all the guy does is make plays, I like this Russell Wilson.
    Well I found this and its far more relevant tbh

    Introduction

    Do you love to hear the pulsing chirp of crickets as you fall asleep? It is an unmistakable sound. Some people find the sound pleasing and peaceful whereas others find it loud and annoying, especially if a cricket happens to find refuge from the cold inside a home. However you feel about crickets, their chirps hold a surprising message—they can report the temperature! In this activity, you'll investigate how the chirps of these tiny creatures can be used as a kind of thermometer!

    Background

    How is a cricket's chirp related to temperature? Crickets, like all living things, have many chemical reactions going on inside their bodies, such as reactions that allow muscles to contract to produce chirping. Crickets, like all insects, are cold-blooded and take on the temperature of their surroundings. This affects how quickly these chemical muscle reactions can occur. Specifically, a formula called the Arrhenius equation describes the activation, or threshold, energy required to make these reactions occur. As the temperature rises, it becomes easier to reach a certain activation energy, thereby allowing chemical reactions, such as the ones that allow a cricket to chirp, to occur more rapidly. Conversely, as the temperature falls, the reaction rates slow, causing the chirping to diminish along with it.

    How do crickets make their distinctive chirp? They use a process called stridulation, where special body parts are rubbed together to make a noise. Generally only male crickets do this; there's a special structure on the tops of their wings, called a scraper. When they want to make their sound, they raise their wings to a 45-degree angle and draw the scraper of one wing across wrinkles on the underside of the other wing, called a file. It's somewhat like running your finger along the teeth of a comb.

    Materials

    • Outdoor temperature between 55 and 100 degrees Fahrenheit (12 and 38 degrees Celsius)—during an evening is ideal
    • Access to an outdoor area with crickets or purchase crickets from a pet store
    • Outdoor thermometer
    • Stopwatch
    • Piece of scratch paper and pencil or pen

    Preparation

    • Set up a thermometer to measure the outdoor temperature in the area where you will observe the crickets.
    • While it's between 55 and 100 degrees F outside (and keeping in mind that evenings are usually best for hearing crickets chirping) go to the area where crickets are. Make sure you hear some chirping.
    • Alternatively, if you purchase crickets, set them outside in a cage in the shade that allows the outside air to easily reach them. Wait until you hear chirping.

    Procedure

    • Pick out the chirping sound of a single cricket.
    • Count how many chirps the cricket makes in 14 seconds. How many? Write this number down.
    • Do this two more times, counting how many chirps the cricket makes in two more 14-second intervals. Write these numbers down. How close were the numbers to one another?
    • Average the number of chirps in the 14-second intervals.
    • Add 40 to the average number of chirps in 14 seconds. This equation (which is one of the oldest and easiest to use cricket-thermometer equations) is published in the Farmers' Almanac. It should give you the approximate temperature in degrees F. According to the cricket, what is the temperature?
    • Check the temperature on the outdoor thermometer. How close is the temperature based on the cricket chirps to the thermometer reading? If they are different, by how much are they different? Why do you think they might be different?
    • Extra: To see how accurate it is to use a cricket to tell the temperature in general, repeat this activity with different outdoor temperatures (but stay within the 55- to 100-degree F range). How accurate is the cricket at telling the temperature when it is getting warmer or colder outside? How accurate does it seem overall?
    • Extra: Based on the Farmers' Almanac, you can use a cricket to tell the temperature in degrees C by counting the number of chirps in 25 seconds, dividing this number by 3 and then adding 4. According to the cricket, what is the temperature in degrees C? How accurate is this?
    • Extra: For an advanced challenge, compare which equation gives the best fit with your calculated temperature data: The linear Farmers' Almanac equations (used in this activity) or the Arrhenius equation, which contains an exponential factor. Information on the Arrhenius equation can be found in the "More to explore" section on the next page. Which equation is most accurate?
    • Extra: Compare the chirps of different species of crickets or different insects altogether, such as katydids. Which critter makes the best "insect thermometer"?


    Observations and results

    Was the temperature based on the cricket's chirps close to the actual outdoor thermometer temperature, and maybe off by only a few degrees F?

    As far back as the late 1800s there have been articles published noting that a cricket's chirp rate (or number of chirps per second that it makes) changes consistently based on the outdoor temperature. There have been many equations published describing the relationship between the number of chirps per second and the temperature. These equations all vary slightly, depending on the species of cricket. Using this activity, you may have found that the cricket was within about 5 degrees F of the temperature measured using the outdoor thermometer, and probably even closer than that. If you repeated this activity multiple times and found that, based on the cricket's chirps, it's was colder than the thermometer read, this could be because the cricket was farther away from a warm building than the thermometer was, and/or because the cricket was closer to the cold soil. The snowy tree cricket is frequently cited as the most accurate at predicting temperature.
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...t-temperature/

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    There is no end to this....







    Former NFL QB Trent Dilfer said it's "mind-boggling" how many myths Russell Wilson has busted. (AP)
    There’s been plenty of debate about where Russell Wilson ranks in the annals of franchise and NFL quarterback history.
    Early in the season, the question was if he’d already peaked as a talented game-manager. Then he had his historic five-game streak, and Seahawks coach Pete Carroll proclaimed that the fourth-year QB will continue to improve. Now, even some of Wilson’s fellow Super Bowl-winning QBs are starting to marvel.
    ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer, who won a Super Bowl with the Ravens, joined “Brock and Salk” and said there are different layers to a quarterback, and what blows him away most about Wilson is that the only intuitive playmaking QB who was also a top-three pocket passer was his fellow Monday Night Football commentator, Hall of Famer Steve Young.
    “We sit there and talk about it, and Steve even at times says ‘I think he’s better than me at this, I think he’s better than I was at that,'” Dilfer said. “He’s truly become one of the greatest players in the National Football League.”
    Related: Seahawks’ Irvin admits Minnesota isn’t his ideal first-round destination
    Dilfer added that Wilson has proven him and most everybody else wrong about his abilities, saying he had a hard time explaining what he is doing without delving into esoteric conversation.
    “It’s mind-boggling how many myths he’s busting each time he plays football,” he said.
    Brock Huard texted two other Super Bowl champions – Kurt Warner and Phil Simms – asking them for three words that define what Wilson is doing.
    Simms’ response: “NFL Top 5.”
    “Let’s get over this, please,” Simms added. “He is one of the top five quarterbacks in this league, hands down. One rifle throw after another. Everybody knows the plays that are coming and he still rips it in there. Quote me, he is top five.”
    Warner followed suit, writing the words “confident,” “complete” and “evolving.”
    “Only thing left is ‘consistency’ of playing at this level from a passing standpoint,” Warner texted. “If he can do this for the bulk of his career we will one day be talking about him as one of the best to play the game!”
    When it comes to the top 5 debate, Huard said there is simply no way to deny Wilson anymore.
    “Who could you possibly debate that right now at the end of the season?” Huard asked. “What do you want to see? Four-thousand yards? Done. Elevate and transcend the players around him? Done. Can it be all on him? Done.”
    Huard said the days of analysts putting Wilson in the second or third tiers of NFL quarterbacks are over.
    “It’s done, it’s flushed. He is a level-one quarterback,” Huard said. “He is top five in the game.”

    Why do I doubt Warner, Simms, Dilfer and Huard would see Derek Anderson being better than Cam Newton and Peyton Manning sucking?

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    all think RW is great, so do we go with them or.... got got got got everyone but Derek Anderson is a got got got...hmmmm?
    Last edited by Avante; 12-13-2016 at 07:00 PM.

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    What does Warren Moon know compared to.... got got got got?


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    Just because the Texans have sunk tons of picks and money into their defense and continue to be a joke doesn't mean you can realistically expect Luck to get by with the garbage fire Indy calls a defense. And the O-line is an even bigger issue than the defense. Only Cleveland has given up more sacks this year than the Colts. Luck's already played behind 35 different O-line combinations in his career, all of them ty. I'm not saying he needs a perfect O-line like the Cowboys or Raiders, but you can't keep putting him out there behind a bunch of turnstiles and letting him get flattened.
    What's funny is these Wilson haters will say all day about how Luck has such a terrible o-line, when it is ranked 22nd and Seattle's o-line is ranked 29th funny how that is

    22. Indianapolis Colts (68.0)

    The Colts have allowed the most total pressures in the entire league, at 159, in 409 pass-blocking snaps. Only two lines have been asked to pass protect on more snaps (Green Bay and Jacksonville), but that still is the worst rate in the league, and a total that would be one of the worst we have seen over the past decade. The issue, though, is that Andrew Luck holds the ball longer than any QB in the league outside of Tyrod Taylor, averaging 2.75 seconds per attempt, so this line is pass blocking longer than nearly any other unit. The starting five is less of an issue than the depth, but any time they have been forced to the bench, things have been ugly. Jack Mewhort has yet to allow a single sack or hit across 298 pass-blocking snaps at guard


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    What's funny is these Wilson haters will say all day about how Luck has such a terrible o-line, when it is ranked 22nd and Seattle's o-line is ranked 29th funny how that is

    22. Indianapolis Colts (68.0)

    The Colts have allowed the most total pressures in the entire league, at 159, in 409 pass-blocking snaps. Only two lines have been asked to pass protect on more snaps (Green Bay and Jacksonville), but that still is the worst rate in the league, and a total that would be one of the worst we have seen over the past decade. The issue, though, is that Andrew Luck holds the ball longer than any QB in the league outside of Tyrod Taylor, averaging 2.75 seconds per attempt, so this line is pass blocking longer than nearly any other unit. The starting five is less of an issue than the depth, but any time they have been forced to the bench, things have been ugly. Jack Mewhort has yet to allow a single sack or hit across 298 pass-blocking snaps at guard


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    Avante whipped my little ass so bad I'm now down to chirping like a little cricket, what a stud he is, yep,...DA MAN. I feel weird caling him got anymore and everyone but the great Derek Anderson is a got.

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    Love it or hate it, but you can't ignore it. It is not unusual to hear the loud chirping of crickets in the garden, any moment of silence and you're bound to hear it. Crickets are leaping insects characterized by their chirping noise. They are part of the family Gryllidae which has approximately 900 species.

    Crickets are a part of folklore and mythology in many cultures. In Brazil, the singing of crickets is believed to be a sign of impending rains. In Barbados, a cricket is not killed or evicted if it chirps inside a house, as it is believed that a loud cricket means money is coming in. In some cultures, a cricket announces death, thus it is killed if it chirps in a house. In some countries in Asia, crickets are believed to bring good luck, they are often kept in cages as house pets.
    Read more at Buzzle: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/facts...et-insect.html

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    It’s hard to hear anything over the chirping. Cardboard boxes filled with egg cartons and sheets of plastic buzz with thousands of young-adult crickets calling out to one another to mate. The brush of the insects’ legs against the various surfaces sounds like hail on a tin roof. Their feed, which sits on top of the cartons on paper plates, looks like a cross between sawdust and sand.
    Gabriel Mott, the chief operating officer of Aspire Food Group, yells above the noise and points inside one of the boxes. “You see the one with the wings?” he asks. “That’s a female. They get their wings at their final stage.”

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    It’s hard to hear anything over the chirping. Cardboard boxes filled with egg cartons and sheets of plastic buzz with thousands of young-adult crickets calling out to one another to mate. The brush of the insects’ legs against the various surfaces sounds like hail on a tin roof. Their feed, which sits on top of the cartons on paper plates, looks like a cross between sawdust and sand.
    Gabriel Mott, the chief operating officer of Aspire Food Group, yells above the noise and points inside one of the boxes. “You see the one with the wings?” he asks. “That’s a female. They get their wings at their final stage.”
    translation

    Avante, ignore all those NFL firsts that Wilson has accomplished, ok? It's all about having a RB, ok? That and a defense. ok? If a QB has a stud RB/D he can never be any good, ok? QB's MUST play on a ty team, ok? If they do only then can we look at them as great QB's, ok?

    I know, I know, the young guy has won all those games, set those records, his peers see him as one of the top five QB's in the NFL, that is all bull , ok? Russell Wilson sucks, and if he played on any other team he'd already be out of the league probably be selling used cars and he'd suck at that also,ok?

    Derek Anderson, now there's a stud QB, all that time he has sat on benchs has him ready to go, forget all those turnovers the last two times we saw him, flukes.

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