Why does Russia want Trump? It's all about oil. Why does Trump want Russia?

[pgardn]

Relatively speaking the Russians aren't that bad. We get our panties all in a wad about their "human rights" violations while ignoring worse from our "allies". Maybe it's time we looked at the world from a different perspective.

Maybe it's time people read more about Vladimir Putin and the Russians continued wish to have a destabilized Europe.

[pgardn]

The mainstream media has us brainwashed. You gotta look past the lib tinted glasses the media gives us.

Yeah.

Just read RT news like Hater and you will have it all figured out.
shm...

And what was East Germany, Poland, the Cech Republic, Slovenia, Latvia, Estonia, Georgia, Ukraine... all laugh at the fools. Go read some history. Let's go throw an all girl possibly lesbian band in jail for whatever when ever, And make it basically illegal to be gay or lesbian, let my biker friends beat them up.

The country and leader are exactly what Trump has spoke against. Big government running inefficiency through huge corruption. But of course no one worries about this because you have no frkn clue what it's like to live there.

Awwh shucks, it's not so bad.

[boutons_deux]

Relatively speaking the Russians aren't that bad. We get our panties all in a wad about their "human rights" violations while ignoring worse from our "allies". Maybe it's time we looked at the world from a different perspective.

You Repugs are so gullible, so connable by Repugs', even Trash's, propaganda

The Putin push: Russian President Vladimir Putin’s favorability among Republicans has grown over two years

Despite Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election, Republicans have grown to like Putin more

Net favorability of Putin:

Democrats
July 2014: -54
Dec 2016: -62

Republicans
July 2014: -66
Dec 2016: -10

http://www.salon.com/2016/12/14/the-putin-push-russian-president-vladimir-putins-favorability-among-republicans-has-grown-over-two-years/

y'all racists REALLY REALLY REALLY hate the knitter so much you prefer him to a sworn enemy who is conducting war on USA.



And did y'all know that white supremacists, skinheads are really big in USSR?

[boutons_deux]

Putin Worth $200 Billion, Was 'Stealing As Much Money As He Could' Says Investor

Bill Browder is the CEO of Hermitage Capital Management, an investment fund and asset management firm with offices in the UK and Russia. He formerly was Russia's largest foreign investor – and he formerly supported President Vladimir Putin.

But now he says Pres. Putin is the richest man in the world, with a net worth of $200 billion.

To put that in perspective, Microsoft founder Bill Gates is believed to hold that le, with $76 billion to support it. Or, to put it another way,

Putin, according to Browder, is worth more than the Koch Brothers ($80 billion), Warren Buffet ($58 billion) and GOP political campaign financier Sheldon Adelson ($38 billion) combined.

How did the Russian President amass so much wealth? Browder on Saturday told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that "the first eight or 10 years of Putin's reign over Russia, it was about stealing as much money as he could. And some people, including myself, believe that he's the richest man in the world, or one of the richest men in the world, with hundreds of billions of dollars of wealth that was stolen from Russia."

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement..._says_investor

[boutons_deux]

Does Vladimir Putin kill journalists?

After Russian President Vladimir Putin called Donald Trump "very talented," the GOP frontrunner has defended Putin against su ions that Putin kills journalists who don’t agree him.

It started on MSNBC’s Morning Joe last month when host Joe Scarborough asked about it.

Trump responded,

"He’s running his country, and at least he’s a leader, unlike what we have on this country. I think our country does plenty of killing also, Joe, so you know."

experts say the political climate in Russia is responsible for the high volume of journalist murders in the country.


http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2016/jan/04/does-vladimir-putin-kill-journalists/

[boutons_deux]

The Putin Paradigm

There is still much we don’t know about how Trump will rule. But in the month since his election, some characteristic patterns have emerged—and they bear some instructive similarities to the style Putin has practiced over many years. Here are a few of them:

Lying is the message. It’s not just that both Putin and Trump lie, it is that they lie in the same way and for the same purpose: blatantly, to assert power over truth itself.

The media is the mirror. Trump, like Putin, has a demonstrably thin skin and short temper when it comes to being criticized by journalists. Trump has also made it clear that his administration will be less open and accessible to the press than those of his predecessors. But perhaps the most important insight came from Buzzfeed, which analyzed over a year’s worth of Trump’s tweets to figure out where the president-elect gets his information. Trump’s mental universe, as it turns out, is dominated by Breitbart.

Taking charge of a boring world. The real-estate magnate and the KGB agent share a peculiar trait: both seem to be lazy and uninterested in the world they want to dominate.

Interests rather than priorities. Attempts to decipher the process by which Trump is choosing his cabinet have stumbled over the usual question: What are the incoming president’s priorities? But Trump, much like Putin, has neither views nor priorities: he has a thirst for power, and he has interests.

A president behind enemy lines. Many of Trump’s cabinet picks have one thing in common: they are opposed to the very mission of the agencies they have been chosen to lead.

The chosen one. When I published a biography of Putin in 2012, some American reviewers criticized the book for asserting that Putin was merely an “ordinary man [whom voters could invest] with whatever they wanted to see in him.” I argued that an unqualified man of limited intelligence had by accident come to rule a nuclear power.

In both cases, however, the sense of being chosen lends itself to a blurring of borders between the president and the state.

Putin has long equated opposition to him with opposition to the Russian state itself. His perception of mass protests as enemy action stemmed at least in part from this conflation.

Trump, with his tweets about stripping flag burners of US citizenship, seems headed down the same mental road: the electors have not even voted yet, but Trump already thinks that he is the United States and citizenship is his to grant and revoke.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/12...tin%20Paradigm

[boutons_deux]

Trump's Men In Moscow: Trump Disciples Suddenly Showing Up In Russia

Donald Trump hasn't been inaugurated yet, but members of his campaign entourage are already riding the president-elect's coattails all the way to Moscow.

On Monday, Jack Kingston, a former Trump surrogate, briefed American businesspeople in Russia on what they might expect from the incoming administration.

Lifting Western sanctions that were imposed on Russia because of its armed intervention in Ukraine has become the top priority not only for the Kremlin but for foreign companies working in Moscow.

Kingston's Moscow trip coincided with the visit of another Trump disciple, Carter Page, who once claimed to advise the Republican candidate on energy and Russia policy. The Trump campaign later distanced itself from Page after he came under scrutiny for his ties to Russia.

On Monday, Page held a news conference at the headquarters of Sputnik, a Russian state-run news agency, where he complained about the proliferation of fake news.

Page lamented the "Cold War mindset" in the U.S. and sang the praises of Rex Tillerson, the Exxon Mobil CEO who expanded his company's footprint in Russia and whom Trump now wants to be his secretary of state.

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/14/505581...g-up-in-russia

Any of Trash's people showing up in in the countries of our allies?

[boutons_deux]

FBI Horrified As Spy Says Russia Has Been Supporting And Cultivating Trump For Years

A "veteran" spy is alleging that Russia is cultivating, supporting and assisting Donald Trump and has been for at least five years. The spy said the response from the FBI was "shock and horror."


A “veteran” spy is alleging that Russia is cultivating, supporting and assisting Donald Trump and has been for at least five years. The spy said the response from the FBI was “shock and horror.”The report alleges that Trump and his “inner circle” have accepted a regular “flow of intelligence from the Kremlin and that Russian intelligence claims to have “compromised” Trump on his visits and could “blackmail him”.David Corn at Mother Jones reported:

Mother Jones has reviewed that report and other memos this former spy wrote.

The first memo, based on the former intelligence officer’s conversations with Russian sources, noted,

“Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by PUTIN, has been to encourage splits and divisions in western alliance.”

It maintained that Trump “and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals.”

It claimed that Russian intelligence had “compromised” Trump during his visits to Moscow and could “blackmail him.”

It also reported that Russian intelligence had compiled a dossier on Hillary Clinton based on “bugged conversations she had on various visits to Russia and intercepted phone calls.”

The former intelligence officer says the response from the FBI was “shock and horror.”

The FBI, after receiving the first memo, did not immediately request additional material, according to the former intelligence officer and his American associates. Yet in August, they say, the FBI asked him for all information in his possession and for him to explain how the material had been gathered and to identify his sources.

The former spy forwarded to the bureau several memos—some of which referred to members of Trump’s inner circle. After that point, he continued to share information with the FBI. “It’s quite clear there was or is a pretty substantial inquiry going on,” he says.

In August, Corn reports, the FBI asked the spy for all information related to his findings and he “continued to share information with the FBI” which he says made it clear there was a “pretty substantial inquiry going on.”

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/...ing-trump.html

I bet Pootin has LOTS of videos of Trump ing s, snorting coke, all supplied by Pootin.

[DMC]

Can't believe Trump isn't going to continue in the footsteps of "kill the po po" Obama, by turning his attention toward meddling in local racial affairs and ignoring the world stage.

[hater]

ya heard it here first. Trump ExxonMobil Sec will order a war in Venezuela. an other regional countries...

[HI-FI]

ya heard it here first. Trump ExxonMobil Sec will order a war in Venezuela. an other regional countries...

What makes you think that? Not a fan of the pick?

[Winehole23]

Can't believe Trump isn't going to continue in the footsteps of "kill the po po" Obama, by turning his attention toward meddling in local racial affairs and ignoring the world stage.

How moronic.

Why is Russia pissed off at us? Obviously it must be the supine foreign policy of the last eight years in Europe.

Drone wars in seven different countries? What a pussy.

Yemen, Syria, Honduras, Iraq again? Afghanistan, still? I thought Obama promised to get us out of that.

There is no war on police and Obama didn't foment one - he just had some mild criticism.

Some of you internet tough guys have awfully thin skins.

[Winehole23]

Nothing to compare really to GWB laying down like a pussycat when Russia steamrolled Georgia.

[Th'Pusher]

How moronic.

Why is Russia pissed off at us? Obviously it must be the supine foreign policy of the last eight years in Europe.

Drone wars in seven different countries? What a pussy.

Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, Honduras, Iraq again? Afghanistan, still? I thought Obama promised to get us out of that.

There is no war on police and Obama didn't foment one - he just had some mild criticism.

Some of you internet tough guys have awfully thin skins.

If you haven't noticed, since DMC began his tour through the political forum, which just so happened to coincide with the election, he's been dropping unsubstantiated controversial takes in an effort to garner attention.

I applaud your challenge. When presented with enough fact based opposition DMC consistently tucks his tail and moves on to another subject.

[Winehole23]

DMC has more than a few good takes, but that wasn't one of them. His rhetorical ecstasies against board libs lead him to absurdity at times.

It's an occupational hazard. No regular poster is immune. Add a drink or two and we all suc b.

[Winehole23]

Dialect shifting. Dumbing himself down to the level of boutons, most likely.

Not so wise in a public forum.

[Clipper Nation]

DMC is one of the elite posters in the political forum, tbh. Consistently great takes, hasn't lost to any of the board libs in an argument yet.

[Winehole23]

lol internetz victories. how puny and sad.

[Winehole23]

undefeated online! I say so!

[DMC]

How moronic.

Why is Russia pissed off at us? Obviously it must be the supine foreign policy of the last eight years in Europe.

Drone wars in seven different countries? What a pussy.

Yemen, Syria, Honduras, Iraq again? Afghanistan, still? I thought Obama promised to get us out of that.

There is no war on police and Obama didn't foment one - he just had some mild criticism.

Some of you internet tough guys have awfully thin skins.

Any criticism against the police during instances where the facts weren't known, from a black president regarding deaths of black people isn't "mild". He was meddling. He meddled in the Trayvon Martin case. He meddled in the professor vs the officer "mistaken iden y" case. He became the black man who was elected president instead of the president who happened to be a black man. He had a voice for black people instead of a voice for all people. BLM sprang up under his watch (black and blue tbh).

Heaven forbid Trump not get into that and instead focus on foreign relations and leveling the playing field for American businesses on global trade.

Thin skin is the net-speak for inconvenient truth at unwelcome times.

[DMC]

If you haven't noticed, since DMC began his tour through the political forum, which just so happened to coincide with the election, he's been dropping unsubstantiated controversial takes in an effort to garner attention.

I applaud your challenge. When presented with enough fact based opposition DMC consistently tucks his tail and moves on to another subject.

How would you know? You've yet to present a cogent thought in text. Every time you open your suck something nebulous flops out like a re ed fetus produced by too many skull ings from random posters.

[Th'Pusher]

How would you know?

Because I can read. Like when you attempted to discuss healthcare policy with your narrow focus an the poor and lazy, a weak argument ElNono quickly dismantled.

You take categorical positions that please the likes of Wild Cobra and ClipperNation (see him up steam suckling your ) as they frequently diminish liberal views, but they're completely unserious policy prescriptions. They're shock value fodder.

[DMC]

Because I can read. Like when you attempted to discuss healthcare policy with your narrow focus an the poor and lazy, a weak argument ElNono quickly dismantled.

You take categorical positions that please the likes of Wild Cobra and ClipperNation (see him up steam suckling your ) as they frequently diminish liberal views, but they're completely unserious policy prescriptions. They're shock value fodder.

El Nono didn't dismantle anything. He just had a different opinion. You wouldn't know the difference because unlike many here, you lack the IQ to hold your own ground in any of these discussions. You'll interject, but soon you're sent scurrying back to the safety of apathy like the child you are.

[Winehole23]

He meddled in the professor vs the officer "mistaken iden y" case.

the facts were known there. the Cambridge PD arrested Henry Louis Gates at home. essentially for complaining about being treated like a su ious intruder.

whatever one thinks of the propriety of the president commenting about particular cases (it's not, but Obama didn't materially effect process or result in either case) -- that hardly amounted to encouraging wholesale slaughter of LE, which did not result either.

your passion for this topic seems a bit overblown.

[Th'Pusher]

El Nono didn't dismantle anything. He just had a different opinion. You wouldn't know the difference because unlike many here, you lack the IQ to hold your own ground in any of these discussions. You'll interject, but soon you're sent scurrying back to the safety of apathy like the child you are.

yeah. You really held your own with your argument for zero forced wealth redistribution with all those historical examples you were able to provide with tons of data to back it up.