Why does Russia want Trump? It's all about oil. Why does Trump want Russia?

[Winehole23]

Thin skin is the net-speak for inconvenient truth at unwelcome times.

Nah. You've blown it out of proportion.

[DMC]

the facts were known there. the Cambridge PD arrested Henry Louis Gates at home. essentially for complaining about being treated like a su ious intruder.

whatever one thinks of the propriety of the president commenting about particular cases (he didn't materially effect process or result in either case) -- that hardly amounted to encouraging wholesale slaughter of LE, which did not result either.

your passion for this topic seems a bit overblown.

Why does mistaken iden y qualify for a presidential intervention?

You ignored my other points.

Of course it seems overblown. There's a new effigy to burn.

[DMC]

Nah. You've blown it out of proportion.

repe ive argument

[DMC]

yeah. You really held your own with your argument for zero forced wealth redistribution with all those historical examples you were able to provide with tons of data to back it up.

I asked which society you wanted to emulate and you never responded. If you want change, you have to either have a template in mind or you have to build from scratch. Building from scratch means you don't have a template.

I realize that goes over your head.

[Winehole23]

Why does mistaken iden y qualify for a presidential intervention?

I've already acknowledged it doesn't. I think it's inappropriate and frankly beneath the office.

You ignored my other points.

Is there one crying out for a reply? I mostly see emotive prose.

[DMC]

I've already acknowledged it doesn't. I think it's inappropriate and frankly beneath the office.

Is there one crying out for a reply? I mostly see emotive prose.

You cherry picked one and thought it cried out for a reply. Using that, you presumed to discount my entire post. Now you're saying the professor statement was the only thing in the post that deserved a response.

So you agree the POTUS meddled. What are you arguing against? It's not just beneath the office, we're not talking about royalty here. It's about precedence, the message "we aren't being treated fairly" sends to the rest of nation by the POTUS. The finger on the scale in favor of the black person right away, as if it's a pressing national security issue. Meanwhile there are cases of mistaken iden y all across the USA on a daily basis by cops, and by the federal government.. and nary a peep from POTUS.

Yes it fueled the fire and yes there are likely dead cops due to some of it. There will likely be more. He gave some legitimacy to knee jerk judgement of viral videos of shootings where context is absent and only one side of the story is told. As the truth unfolds, it's presented as a side note.

So we just spent 8 years with a community organizer (one I voted for btw) running a micro-Al Sharpton style presidency and somehow Trump's friendliness toward another superpower is more of an issue. As if the saber rattling Obama is doing in his 11th hour isn't just noise.

[Winehole23]

What you said about Obama being absent from the world stage to be a racial justice warrior is overblown and factually false. Again, why is Russia pissed off at us?

[DMC]

What you said about Obama being absent from the world stage to be a racial justice warrior is overblown and factually false. Again, why is Russia pissed off at us?

First establish that Russia is pissed off at us.

[DMC]

and btw, I didn't say Obama ignored the world stage. You inferred it then attributed it to me.

[Winehole23]

Trump isn't going to continue in the footsteps of "kill the po po" Obama, by turning his attention toward meddling in local racial affairs and ignoring the world stage.

[DMC]

"his" being Trump's

In other words, Trump isn't going to ignore the world stage because he's busy trying to follow in Obama's footsteps of meddling in local affairs.

[boutons_deux]

First establish that Russia is pissed off at us.

Russia-facing NATO/USA missiles in eastern Europe

NATO military exercises on Russia's borders.

USA deposing Putin's puppet in Ukraine.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...clement-russia

http://archive.larouchepac.com/node/30422

[Th'Pusher]

I asked which society you wanted to emulate and you never responded. If you want change, you have to either have a template in mind or you have to build from scratch. Building from scratch means you don't have a template.

I realize that goes over your head.

I didn't respond, because the horse had been beaten and you began shifting the argument. You were unable to effectively support your position that absolutely no forced wealth redistribution was good or even possible as you were unable to provide a single example of it ever being implemented successfully after multiple requests.

[DMC]

I didn't respond, because the horse had been beaten and you began shifting the argument. You were unable to effectively support your position that absolutely no forced wealth redistribution was good or even possible as you were unable to provide a single example of it ever being implemented successfully after multiple requests.

I see. So you walk away from a discussion and it's justified, but if I do it I'm running scared.


shifting the argument? How, by asking you to specify which society you wanted to emulate? Since you were insisting what hasn't been done cannot be done, I was asking which you wanted to copy.

[Th'Pusher]

I see. So you walk away from a discussion and it's justified, but if I do it I'm running scared.


shifting the argument? How, by asking you to specify which society you wanted to emulate? Since you were insisting what hasn't been done cannot be done, I was asking which you wanted to copy.

Societies I want or don't want to emulate have no bearing on your ability to support your position.

[pgardn]

DMC has more than a few good takes, but that wasn't one of them. His rhetorical ecstasies against board libs lead him to absurdity at times.

It's an occupational hazard. No regular poster is immune. Add a drink or two and we all suc b.

He denies the drink.

The man does go completely sideways though, it's strange.

[DMC]

Societies I want or don't want to emulate have no bearing on your ability to support your position.

That's because you don't get to dictate and steer my narrative. If you want to play the empirical card, then you'll have to ante up.

[DMC]

He denies the drink.

The man does go completely sideways though, it's strange.

I'm not a drinker but I will drink one tonight in honor of Craig Sager.

[pgardn]

I'm not a drinker but I will drink one tonight in honor of Craig Sager.

We both will.

[TeyshaBlue]

We both will.

In

[Th'Pusher]

That's because you don't get to dictate and steer my narrative. If you want to play the empirical card, then you'll have to ante up.

If you can make your argument without empirical data, go right ahead.

[Winehole23]

Why is Russia pissed?

NATO enlargement in the erstwhile Soviet sphere, economic sanctions, color coded revolutions, conventional and nuclear arms posture, HRC talking and driving down the price of oil. To say nothing of our (now apparently failed) attempt to establish a new pipeline for natural gas through Syria to Europe.

That's just off the top of my head. Is that so implausible?

[Axl Rose]

Why is Russia pissed?

NATO enlargement in the erstwhile Soviet sphere, economic sanctions, color coded revolutions, conventional and nuclear arms posture, HRC talking and driving down the price of oil. To say nothing of our (now apparently failed) attempt to establish a new pipeline for natural gas through Syria to Europe.

That's just off the top of my head. Is that so implausible?

Bingo

[Winehole23]

So you agree Russia had good motives to with our election and did?

[Axl Rose]

Anyone could have motives, motives don't mean anything. Post proof